not to mention, that they're imagining a fight where there is none.

Many Thanks

Sarandon's peers are in Hollywood. Huerta's are in civil rights, the union movement, and those who work for the rights of migrant workers and Latinos more generally. Her peers include Cesar Chavez, John Lewis, and Martin Luther King.

Sarandon decries Wall Street while pulling in millions in endorsement money from Loreal.
She is a good actress, and she has every right to make her political views known, but she has not devoted her life to people's movements like Huerta has.

on many issues. Sarandon wasn't trolling Huerta. She was having a political discussion with a person she knows and with whom she had worked on social justice and the end of the Iraq war.

and broken bones to show for it. Next to her, Sarandon is nothing but a dilettante

and have made appearances together. They know each other.

People need to quit treating Huerta as if she is a delicate flower. I have worked with her and she engages with no-name co-activists as if we are all on the same footing. She doesn't pull rank or make a person feel that they are not worthy enough to march along side her.

It doesn't fit their false narrative.

Your OP is great. Thanks for posting it.

I will be more than willing to concede that's just Sarandon's personality in general towards anyone who disagrees with her, and not the product of bias of any kind

That smear was absurd.

...it's no surprise to find Sanders supporters eager to dismiss that type of behavior. It's a good reflection of how DU Sanders support treats dissenters from their candidate.

...this is a goddamn disgrace.

political discussion.

Shameful even.

...and this is the revolution.

I did find it interesting that Huerta did not know that Hillary, as Secretary of State, pushed GMOs around the world.

Huerta is a fierce advocate for the opposite. Maybe that is the reason you are so upset.

the optics were terrible and I'm sorry but you can't put that genie back in the bottle.

Her bearing, her invasion of her space, the presumptuousness of the way she put her hands on her - it was not good. I understand why that would not be an easy setting to communicate in for anyone. Sarandon made a bad choice putting herself in that position. It was a bad idea.

They leaned into each other to talk quietly into each others ear. Are you really going to advance an argument that these two women who have worked together for years cannot have a public political conversation?

If so, you know very little about Dolores Huerta. She does not shrink from a political conversation and would likely be insulted that people are treating her as some living saint that needs to be protected from political engagement. What are advocating is that she should be silenced but revered.

it's unfortunate how allergic to reality this place has become.

Sarandon was in her element, all hopped up on the same self-righteousness that put her squarely in the Nader camp.

It looked terrible, but please, keep arguing with me on the internet as though that will change what a bad visual that was.

worked with often over many years. Ya'll keep acting as though Sarandon ambushed someone she did not know. Ya'll keep presenting this as if Dolores needs protecting. She doesn't.

I don't know you so I can only go by what you posted. It sounded to me like your negative opinion of Sarandon's support for Nader might have influenced what you say you saw. Sometimes our bias gets in the way of accessing the truth.

She is a political activist AND she has been involved in politics vis a vis her political activism for decades. Given her status, her name alone has very valuable currency incalculable in many political legislative fights, causes and struggle.

Here's the thing about politics. it's ruthless, cut throat - one is in it to win it, and so every device and tactic under the sun that has ever been used through time immemorial will be employed. Count on it.

She will do what ever needs to be done, by any means necessary to make sure the fight she's invested in throwing her weight towards, is won.

She's an icon, but she's no saint. She fights the good fight for every cause I've ever supported, except this one. She's doing this in exchange for something important, valuable. She's gambling on a HRC victory and that's all there is to it.

We have to get a grip on the toxic sewage that is politics. The lies, the deception the bait and switch, the back stabbing and so much more.

It all goes with the territory unfortunately.

Monsanto… huge issues in Huerta's current activism. Huerta says that she believes that Hillary was aware of her GMO activism in the halls of congress but Hillary did not mention her State Department boosterism of GMOs when seeking Dolores's endorsement.

misunderstanding or not

I am also sure that isn't going to happen

unable to engage in a political discussion with a years long compatriot; rather than the fierce advocate that can hold her own ground, I'll stop.

that is how much my opinion is worth

mine.

I agree that we SHOULD move on. I also agree that it doesn't look like that will happen at least until the next Flame bait thread is posted with a new OUTRAGE. What is that saying about insanity?

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only way to honor activists, by following their examples. Huerta used to say this: ""Don't be a marshmallow! Stop being vegetables! Work for justice!" So it is hard for me to imagine her calling for kid gloves.

I was not at all fond of Dolores' verbiage about Obama in 2008 which to be blunt I found to be full of dog whistles . He was taking money from nuclear companies to dump waste on poor Latino people, he avoided Latinos and their issues, he had poor judgement and little courage, she told us that she was very active in Chicago Latino politics and that she'd never seen Obama at any event 'I have as yet to meet the man so I don't know'.

I didn't like that, it was not very truthful. Few who are supporting her words about Bernie would have agreed with her words about Barack so very clearly there has never been a 'you must agree with Dolores' rule. In 08 her objective was to defeat Obama. I thought then and think now that she was very incorrect about Obama. So I am fairly comfortable in electoral disagreement with Dolores because we very much did not agree in 2008 Primary either.