2016 Postmortem

Herman4747

(1,825 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:37 PM Feb 2016

Our Very Own Mitt Romney Candidate.

In choosing our candidate for president, we have to deal to what extent we value electability; and if this is a trait we seek in a candidate, we must try to assess the factors that can undermine electability.

One of these factors is dishonesty. I think it is fair to say that the gentleman below

had a lot going for him in 2012 (near 9% unemployment rate) but still wound up losing at least in part because many voters believed they could not trust him. That he lies and flip-flops too much.

But he was from the other side, what about our own candidates? I encourage you all to view the video below:

Now as we go forward, knowing that should Hillary be our candidate, the Republicans will seek to destroy her credibility -- would the Republicans find themselves with plenty of ammo?

Moreover, and possibly even more importantly, we understand that the President has the potential to be a fine role model for the children of our country. Ask yourself: is Hillary too deceitful to ever be a splendid role model?

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Our Very Own Mitt Romney Candidate. (Original Post) Herman4747 Feb 2016 OP

She's lying even more than he did. It's crazy onecaliberal Feb 2016 #1

Wow, comparing Hillary to Romney. Aren't you special. leftofcool Feb 2016 #2

I agree, it's an inaccurate comparison. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #3

With a hint of Kissinger.n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #11

You Refuse to deal with the main issues: Herman4747 Feb 2016 #4

2-5 to keep ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #9

Lie after lie after lie. But Hillary supporters don't fucking care. LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #5

Well it's good, though, that we do! Herman4747 Feb 2016 #7

K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #6

She is Faux pas Feb 2016 #8

The results are in! Yuugal Feb 2016 #10

It is claimed by an alerter that... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #13

Comment on Juror #5 remarks. Herman4747 Feb 2016 #14

And, like Mitt, if she becomes the nominee she will drastically change her positions. Vinca Feb 2016 #12

Like rMoney Sanders represents the establishment uponit7771 Feb 2016 #15

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)

1. She's lying even more than he did. It's crazy

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:40 PM

Feb 2016

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

2. Wow, comparing Hillary to Romney. Aren't you special.

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:44 PM

Feb 2016

But it is to be expected.

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

3. I agree, it's an inaccurate comparison.

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:47 PM

Feb 2016

She's much more like Nixon.

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)

11. With a hint of Kissinger.n/t

Reply to HooptieWagon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:33 PM

Feb 2016

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

4. You Refuse to deal with the main issues:

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:49 PM

Feb 2016

Will all Hillary's lies cause us to lose in November? Is she too deceitful to be a good role model for the nation's children?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)

9. 2-5 to keep

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:32 PM

Feb 2016

That's what happens when Nader and Paulites are now in charge.

Bet this post gets hidden.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)

5. Lie after lie after lie. But Hillary supporters don't fucking care.

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:20 PM

Feb 2016

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

7. Well it's good, though, that we do!

Reply to LondonReign2 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:23 PM

Feb 2016

AzDar

(14,023 posts)

6. K & R

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:21 PM

Feb 2016

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)

8. She is

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:26 PM

Feb 2016

a liar, plain and simple. Why can't the others see/hear/smell it?

Yuugal

(2,281 posts)

10. The results are in!

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:32 PM

Feb 2016

You ARE the father of Bernie's love baby!

On Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:22 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Our Very Own Mitt Romney Candidate.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511308896

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is not constructive criticism. This is just more bashing equating Hillary to a Republican. It's a nasty and dishonest comparison basically posted to depress support for one of our candidates.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:30 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hide it. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I have had a fucking 'nuff of Democrats being compared to Republicans. I have had enough of being lectured by Nader and Paul fans
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Wow I found out you can rec a post while you are jurying it. Interesting.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: discuss
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not only does Hillary have a tendency to lie, she never owns up to it and that is the worst part.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

13. It is claimed by an alerter that...

Reply to Yuugal (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:40 PM

Feb 2016

my original post is "a nasty and dishonest comparison basically posted to depress support for one of our candidates."
If I endeavor to "depress support" for one of our candidates, it is only to thereby increase support for another candidate, who is far more honest and electable in November.

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

14. Comment on Juror #5 remarks.

Reply to Yuugal (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:51 PM

Feb 2016

Yes, exactly, she never owns up to it!!! If she were to just say, "What I said was untrue, and I shouldn't have said it. I deeply apologize," then I could see some underlying morality within her, and the whole thing would not be as troubling, and we could move on (provided these deceptions do not happen too often again). But she will instead say something like "I was sleep-deprived and misspoke." MISSPOKE MY ASS! YOU LIED, DAMMIT!

Vinca

(50,278 posts)

12. And, like Mitt, if she becomes the nominee she will drastically change her positions.

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:36 PM

Feb 2016

Mitt moved from far right to center. Hillary will be moving from moderately left to center. The end result is nearly the same.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

15. Like rMoney Sanders represents the establishment

Reply to Herman4747 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:55 PM

Feb 2016

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