2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEmails show HRC Aides Celebrating F-15 Sales as "Good News"
Bombs dropped by fighter jets are pulverizing Yemens architectural history, possibly in violation of international humanitarian law.
A few years earlier, as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton made weapons transfer to the Saudi government a top priority, according to her closest military aide.
And now, newly released emails show that her aides kept her well-informed of the approval process for a 2011 sale worth $29.4 billion to Boeing of up to 84 advanced F-15SA fighters, along with upgrades to the Saudis pre-existing fleet of 70 F-15 aircraft, and munitions, spare parts, training, maintenance, and logistics.
The deal was finalized on Christmas Eve 2011. Afterwards, Jake Sullivan, then Clintons deputy chief of staff and now a senior policy adviser on her presidential campaign, sent her a celebratory e-mail string topped with the chipper message: FYI good news.
Source: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/saudi-christmas-present/
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VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)The F35 is a waste of money.
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VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)The first, being the F35. I'm Air Force, and it's honestly galling that so many of our leaders support a failed swiss-army-knife of a project, especially when the A-10 is easily the best CAS frame we have.
The second is PoC outreach; which admittedly I'm not sure how to solve. While I support the man, at some point, raving and frothing about his civil rights record from 50 years ago gets old; what's he been doing in the meantime.
The third is the nuclear mess he got into in Vermont; but I still need to do more research on that before I come to a hard and fast decision on it.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)That's right. The answer is no.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)He didn't reward any of these unsavory characters with arms for donating to his foundation, either.
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notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)If they don't fly, it can't be sold to a foreign country and used to bomb the hell out of people.
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notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Just think what that money could do for our infrastructure and the jobs rebuilding that infrastructure would provide.
I guess it's better to enrich the military industrial complex than to make this country and it's people truly great.
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notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Still, his position hadnt changed that much. Sandias nuclear associations were never a major obstacle; Sanders had once been pro-nuclear power, and his criticisms were restrained. His stalwart alliance with labor had always outweighed his skepticism about military spending. And his corporate criticism, which focused on fairness and inequality, rarely prevented him from making an alliance that furthered bold initiatives or burnished his record of leadership.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/lockheed-martin-in-vermont-senator-bernie-sanders-corporate-conundrum/5452106
hack89
(39,171 posts)what are the odds that those planes will be used to "bomb the hell out of people"?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Zero.
How many F-35s are bombing MSF hospitals in Yemen?
Zero.
Hrm...wonder if there's a difference.....
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Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Part of the job is to promote American businesses abroad. If Boeing hadn't sold them these planes someone else would have and a U.S. company would have lost the deal.
A SOS implements the policies of the president. Take it up with him.
coyote
(1,561 posts)Just asking .