2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCornel West on CNN: Sister Hillary Clinton is the Milli Vanilli of American Politics
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/cornel-west-sister-hillary-clinton-is-the-milli-vanilli-of-american-politics/bravenak
(34,648 posts)And a black mascot of Wall Street, and... Very inappropriate.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Is there anything worse you can say about a black man than to suggest he is a Tom?
Thank you in advance.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)9 for boy
10 for that word we dont say unlike our dear brother West
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)When I see our president I don't see race nor gender... I just see a warm, caring, and thoughtful man.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)"Thou shall not covet."
bravenak
(34,648 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Yes ... President Obama's legacy IS on the ballot, as DUer Godhumor has argued. (I'll try and find the post)
bravenak
(34,648 posts)One candidate seems to be running against his record
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)On the Dem side, we have a candidate that wants to stagnate there, and another that wants to improve on it.
I am voting for the one that wants to improve on it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)It's sad. I seem to remember that you used to have something to say.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The more that happens, john lewis, dolores huerta, trayvons mom, etc, they less i have to say. Soon ill be speechless.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)They are not untouchable perfection.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Makes me just wanna stay far back
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)Race doesn't matter in the least. Anyone who pushes an Orwellian monstrosity like the TPP - which would put corporate kangaroo courts above any and all laws in any country stupid enough to sign on - has lost all self-respect, and deserves very little from the rest of us.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)President Obama, after all, is half white.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)
Even on critical issues like the TPP.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I never vote republican or third party if there is a Dem. I have actually never voted for a republican and only 1 independent. That independent combined his campaign with the Democrat. Gov and Lt Gov.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)New fragrance. Black Privilege Power Brokers by Bravenak. Comes in body spray too.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)People, it's been said, come and go. Only their legacy endures.
And Obama's really trying hard to tarnish his with this corporate heist known as the TPP. Because he himself is such a decent person, my suspicion is that, privately, he shares our wish that something like that may never pass.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)I can only imagine the pressures he's under that conflict with his conscience. He's going to have some stories to tell before it's over.
forest444
(5,902 posts)If walls could talk, right?
JudyM
(29,251 posts)Something tells me she's the boss after a certain time of day. I like that.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Cornel West wrote a book titled "Race Matters."
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)and has been throwing shade on President Obama ever since.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Lost it. Sad. He had potential.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)But then, it calls for reasoning.
forest444
(5,902 posts)Even going against everyone in the Democratic Party to do so, if need be.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-says-he-willing-to-defy-democrats-on-his-support-of-trans-pacific-partnership/2014/12/03/25edcaf4-7b30-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html
He must have felt lucky to have Democrats like yourself every time he touted the TPP.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)all self-respect
markj757
(194 posts)you mean Republicans and a small fringe group of Bernie supporters here on DU, then yeah I agree, he deserves very little respect from people like you, because I know I definitely have no respect for people like you. And I know the vast majority of Bernie supporters, and Bernie himself, has a tremendous amount of respect for Obama, and what he has accomplished....even though many may disagree on TPP.
forest444
(5,902 posts)I'll try to keep that in mind.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I forget where.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)A world where I can't trust your word is a world I don't want to live in.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)I am not even qualified to question Cornel West's choices about where and when to drop the n-bomb.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I've been a huge admirer of Dr. West for many years. He is one of our precious few public intellectuals of any hue. And dog knows we desperately need them, but I've never been able to get over his attacks on president Obama. I just can't.
Intellectual consistency isn't a hobgoblin for you, but it is for me.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Actually used "now". My own mother doesn't demand shit from me like that.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NOW! Omg, smh!
I laugh now rather than get mad
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)that there isn't a single black voting block. Like every other race, people have opinions.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)Blame It on the Bern.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)Hilli Vanilli it is! And she can blame it on the Bern.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)begin_within
(21,551 posts)Won't retire, keeps putting out the same thing over and over and expects us to keep on buying it...
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Maybe she's a cross between Madonna and the Kardashians.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Hoo, like a Republican,
Voting for war for the very first time
Like a Re-pub-li-can,
When Kissinger's heart beats
Next to mine
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)a phony she is..a wealth of examples.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I saw the interview and I thought he was great. Intelligent and articulate.
oasis
(49,389 posts)Eyes popping out of his head while embellishing half truths.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Keep up the good work!!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)I suppose it's all relative. No pun intended.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Without descending into name-calling and attempting to look 'relevant'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
Beacool
(30,250 posts)West doesn't care much for Obama either. So if by insulting Hillary he thinks that he's helping Sanders with AA voters, he's seriously mistaken.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Or are you talking about the Primaries...
Also, as a African-American Voter, I applaud Dr. West comment.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...when his opponents openly mock their candidate.
This is childish beyond belief.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)I thought Cornel was keeping a LOW profile. Guess that's not true either.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She's worse than Milli Vanilli.
6chars
(3,967 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)very well respected. The pop culture references remind me of Camille Paglia, another 90s social scholar. It's making me nostalgic. So, it's Frankenstein against Milli Vanilli. C'mon, Cornell, you can do better than that!!!!!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)has been saying that about Dr. West for the last 7+ years.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And If Dr. West Was Talking Down Bernie -- Hillary Supporters Will Prop Him Up As The Civil Rights Hero He Is.
Remember Ferguson. Dr. West Was There. We Saw Him There. No questioning from Civil Rights Figures from the Past, Allowed. #FYI
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)What I do know is if Dr. West were talking down Bernie, the Black community would still be MEH, regarding Dr. West.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And That's Not The Question or Statement.
Dr. West was in Ferguson Placing His Body On The Line -- To Stand Up For The Protesters Against the Tanks. He was There. We Saw Him There. He's A Civil Rights Figure And Happens to Supports Bernie.
This is 2016 and That Matters.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I would think that decaf-coffee better describes her ever-variable "principles".
Gene Debs
(582 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Perception is a perception .
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I personally thought his comments about Obama were repugnant. BUT there is no doubt that he has been one of this country's greatest public intellectuals over the past quarter of a century.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Is West Darius Rucker now?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)...the horrible things Mr. West is saying.
I must confess.
I...I still listen to Milli Vanilli every now and again, and it's loaded on my phone. This is not a proper insult, Mr. West!
Tarc
(10,476 posts)while those in Hillary's corner, while vastly outnumbering Mr. West, also express their endorsement in adult terms and cite facts and reasoned rationales for their endorsements.
I'm proud to be on the high road on this one.
Blue Owl
(50,427 posts)n/t
still_one
(92,219 posts)disgusting epithets around, such as how he characterized President Obama.
Doesn't sound very brotherly to me