is why she should just leave now. She is only building up her negatives which are already at the point where she can not win in the general. Sorry, just is not in the cards for her.

she achieves the nomination. Then the attack on Hillary by so-called Democrats will subside.

As In Hillary's Favorable s Going Up. Do you think Independents will break for Hillary? Really? No way you can think that.

Add that with Bernie Supporters who decide to sit out, vote green or just skip the top of the ticket....Trump or Rubio has a chance of winning if Bernie Sanders is not the nominee.

...i wont vote HRC. but today is 22-Feb, thank goodness, and this op is hypothetical.

food-for-thought...
Corporate entities tend to seek: unlimited life, unlimited size, unlimited power, and unlimited license. corporations do not hesitate to exploit and profit from programs uniformly identified with liberal politics, such as the war on poverty, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, and foreign aid. All these programs are all extremely lucrative for corporations that contract with government agencies.

Worse yet, privatized as wanted by Cruz/Rubio... (yikes!)

Pharaphrasing a clip from the classic economics text, The Wealth of Nations (pub1776) ---
"...watch out whenever a group of businessmen get together. Civil government is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all."

My point, to this op, is that the dem party via Hillary really appears more and more influenced by corporatism, which has created diversion. At least, IMO, when i see the list of political action comittee contributions made to the HRC campaign. ....anyhow, the corporatist ploy encourages absolute opposition between Party mindsets; create distractions, while pushing corporate agendas thru both sides.

Man, do they fear Bernie.

If Hillary wins primary, no matter who wins the general; the collective fear is the corporatist agenda continues. Monsanto grows more corn, so we eat more GMOs, burn more ethynol, college grads' --(heck)-- all of our debt grows bigger... etc, etc, excetera...

so, i vote Bern! go get'em you BlueDogs

Also, while we're being hypothetical; as soon as Elizabeth Warren comes to the table, she and Bernie will rock the joint!!! whatta good setup for 2020.

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It's asinine, and more likely to alienate than persuade.

Doesn't mean I have to buy it.

More than adequate reason to select Bernie Sanders as the Democratic Party's candidate for President of the United States. So we have a chance of winning.

He beats the other Repubs too. HRC loses to all.

Cenk explains electability:

I fear not.

It is funny and makes me smile. So there is that.

Six months ago, the map was all pro-Hillary and six months from now, it will be different as well.

The difference in what direction? Who knows?

And that's the point. Six months is six years in politics.

Plan to get Independents (many of which already don't like her) and will be then -- a MAJORITY former Bernie Supporters -- to break for Hillary.

There is no plan to do that -- as it does not exist. Sorry.

The Republicans can't attack Hillary with the she's-in-cahoots-with-Wall Street because the Republicans are Wall Street.
That removes the biggest weakness in her campaign.

The press so far has given Trump a free pass except for the crazy things he says in the debates and on the campaign trail. Trump has plenty of vulnerabilities drawn from his business career. Some of his business moves have CRUSHED working class people. There is much for Hillary to attack here.

Don't assume that Bernie supporters won't vote for Hillary. There may be many on this site who will not. However, others will because it will become very apparent that if a Republican wins, the liberal cause will be set back many years if not decades. Beginning with the repeal of Obamacare and its death, and a reversal of the gains made for gay rights, and women's rights, and civil rights. All of these losses will occur because the far right wing on the Supreme Court will reverse these gains. At least 3 seats will be filled in the next presidential term and that will seal radical right control of the court and for decades because of lifetime appointments.

In the end, Bernie supporters will have to answer the question: do you want Clinton or Trump to be this country's next president. I cannot imagine many Bernie supporters will support the election to Trump by not voting. What a terrible price the country will pay if Bernie supporters off their noses to spite their face. We saw that happen when Nader ran as an independent and the Naderites' votes handed the election to George W. Bush. I hope that Bernie supporters will think about that.

And there's one other point. Don't assume that Bernie won't work with Hillary. Bernie is a politician and a very good one. Bernie will have cards to play at the convention. There will be some dealmaking done. It should be because Bernie deserves a seat at the table, and to get concessions from Clinton in turn for his endorsement. In a very important sense, Bernie is already winning.

But Hillary may not get the nomination. I support Hillary but no candidate should count their votes before they are cast! And please understanding that my and many others' support for Hillary has very little if anything to do with Bernie's policies or Bernie. He's a good man that I respect and admire.

Sorry for the long-winded post.

Millennials will not vote for Hillary. In fact, 80% of them will just sit out of voting for President all together.

Generation X'ers will break 45/55% with 55% of them NOT voting for Hillary or sitting out the election.

Independents will break 70/30% with 70% AGAINST Hillary as they don't like her anyway.

We Know how Republicans will break. They will come out in droves with Hillary at the top of the ticket as they hate her. P/S -- Just saying how many in the GOP feel.

The only place Hillary can gain votes is Baby Boomers. She'll likely win them BUT that is not enough to win a General Election.

With That -- Hillary Lose. Whatever Republican eek this out Trump, Rubio or Cruz -- Wins.

Sorry....

This is the best reason there is.

Remember when Sanders fans disdained polls as "corporate"

Win Michigan Over Trump in a General Election. This map is wrong as Michigan has Republican everything running this state and will not let Hillary take it for multiple reasons -- plus the former Bernie Supporters (at this point) sitting it out or just voting everywhere else except the top of the ticket.

Add Michigan's 16 Electoral votes in the Red Column. Only if Bernie Sanders is the nominee the Democrats will take Michigan.

Once the media takes a close look at Trump's business record, Hillary will have a good shot at winning Michigan.

NATFA. The only way Michigan goes Blue is Nominate Bernie.

Do you LIVE in Michigan? If you do and think Hillary can win this state without Bernie as her V.P. (which he will not be) and on her own -- I have the Zilwaukee bridge to sell ya.

Michigan knows the pain of NAFTA and free trade. Union members have been educated nonstop on how free trade has lost us good jobs and destroyed community tax bases. Union leaders my dupe themselves into endorsing Hillary in the hope of future influence..but the members will not follow.

A progressive pretender will lose Michigan, we need Bernie's authenticity and honesty to have a chance.

Here in NC definitely.

As John McEnroe would famously say "You cannot be serious"..........LOL

The people dismissing these maps because the GE is still too far out are the same people who claim Bernie is "unelectable". They must have some amazing clairvoyant abilities.

Just like has been mentioned here...her pool of those giving that max $2700 (or around that) is drying up and they've been spending like it's someone else's money!

She's in Los Angeles tonight to try and suck up money from 2 fundraisers...wonder if any from Camp Weathervane will be giving a wink & nod, to donate to the likes of Corrupt the Record Super PAC?

But that means they need to do a shutout ASAP on Sanders, and it's not happening so far. Nevada was a Hail Mary for them, and not even a particularly strong one.

NT

He's quite popular here among my friends, even some Republicans.

If it's Hillary, we will definitely be in the R column, as usual.

Hillary is not well liked and does not have wide support.

OT: how's your campaign going? My daughter has been sending you money through the DU ActBlue site. I plan to as soon as I get my SS straightened out. I've also been working on getting DFA to endorse and work for you.