2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUPDATE Guess who owns the lobbying firm for L'Oreal's slave labor mining company? You'll never guess
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L'Oreal's mica supplier in India is Merck.
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/india-child-labour-mica-mineral-cosmetics
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Children-labour-to-bring-sparkle-to-make-up/articleshow/49318509.cms
Merck - ah Merck.
Merck pays the PODESTA GROUP to lobby for it in the US.
You may remember the Podesta Group as it's co-owned by Hillary's CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN.
The Podesta Group has also donated and bundled hundreds of grand for... you guessed it... Hillary Clinton.
Meaning that some of Hillary's campaign is paid for with profits from... Child slave labour...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_Group
I believe that all those Clinton supporters that were so outraged should consider their position, as they're now supporting the child slave labor funded candidate for President.
Here's a list of the wonderful people that pay her campaign chairman's firm to "influence" DC for them:
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/firmlbs.php?id=D000022193
UPDATE:
Clinton has attacked pharmaceutical companies on the campaign trail, but she took the time to meet personally with the CEO of one while serving as secretary of state.
Clinton invited Kenneth Frazier, president and CEO of Merck, to meet with her at the State Department headquarters in Washington, D.C., in March 2012, according to a schedule released among her private emails.
Merck has donated between $250,000 and $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
In addition, Merck spent millions on lobbying during Clinton's tenure, including efforts to lobby the State Department, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nine-times-clinton-foundation-donors-got-special-access-at-state/article/2580451
And:
Pharmaceutical company Merck & Co. is also a member of the Clinton Global Initiative, company spokeswoman Amy Rose said. Merck joined CGI in 2006, when dues were $15,000, and also was a member in 2007 and in 2008, when membership dues rose to $20,000. As part of its commitment to CGI, Merck sponsors public health initiatives around the world, Rose said. Merck joined CGI on its own initiative, she said.
Sen. Clinton wrote a November 2005 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt urging approval of the human papillomavirus vaccine. Merck applied in December 2005 for approval of its HPV vaccine, Gardasil, and the vaccine was approved for use in females ages 9 to 26. Merck is still seeking approval for use in older women, Rose said.
Rose said Merck's participation in the Clinton Global Initiative was unrelated to Sen. Clinton's letter. Merck didn't communicate with Clinton or her office about its HPV vaccine and was unaware of her letter before it was sent, Rose said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/report-hillary-clinton-acted-concerns-bill-clinton-foundation-donors-article-1.424994
LEARN MORE ABOUT MERCK HERE:
http://www.corp-research.org/merck
Edit: it would be pretty good if a few people tweeted this out to a few people. This is a pretty big deal.
Rachel@msnbc.com might also like to know. Ahem.
cali
(114,904 posts)How often you hear a company doing something shifty and then learn that they're represented by Podesta.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)in 2008. I don't know why she is not held accountable for dealing with the Devil here. In 2008 it was Mark Penn (who was just as evil), infamous for negotiating the trade deal with Columbia for Bush while he was Clinton's campaign manager.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Was an official advisor to Obama, part of the Obama Biden transition team and Bill Clinton's Chief of Staff.
He and his brother and his wife have raised untold sums for the DNC and the Clintons.
That's why.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)one big happy family of scumbags
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
Check out the link...
Fracking, KXL, If election, would she do a Chris Christie and let ExxonMobile out of a Climate Change/Pollution settlement?
Hillary Clinton rakes in money from fossil fuel interests
http://grist.org/climate-energy/hillary-clinton-rakes-in-money-from-fossil-fuel-interests/
.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)thank you!
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I wonder how Hillary can claim she wants to continue President Obama's policies, when President Obama has made it clear for years that he supports clean industries to produce more energy, that is, wind power and solar polar.
This is a direct contradiction of President Obama's energy policies.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Poweer Structure that includes such nefarious characters as Podesta!
brush
(53,787 posts)Wonder if she mentioned that to Delores Huerta as she harangue her about Clinton's connections?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)bad mouthing Ms. Sarandon? I don't give a crap about Ms. Sarandon, but HRC is not a friend of the 99%.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)You can't have it both ways.
http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2016/01/08/susan-sarandon-face-of-loreal-paris-2016/
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)that HRC has some bad connections. It doesn't matter who points them out if they are true. If they aren't true, then you should point that out instead of trying to discredit those that are pointing it out.
"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"
"Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative. "
Turn your back on the massive wealth that has cause so much pain to the 99% and join the People's Movement.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Just heard bernie talk on MSNBC. Positive message, positive approach, and looking to future victories.
Wait til he and DeTrump learn about this crap.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)When the general starts, that will end fairly quickly.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)It's not being mean, it's protecting our ass. She will lose come November if she is the nominee.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)I mean, Sanders barely hit her on being friends with Kissinger ffs. Meanwhile she sends out surrogates to tell every lie they think will stick.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)The problem is, they can no longer ignore him. I am very grateful for Social Media.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)silenttigersong
(957 posts)Chk out Nestles co connection with slave labor Cheryl Mills (Clinton aid) Clinton Fondation.It is sickening after awhile.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Is also represented he her campaign chairman's lobbying firm.
polly7
(20,582 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...dirty bunch of lobbyists. It's disappointing to me that Hillary is willing to work with them.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)They were a big part of the Obama and Bill Clinton White House as well.
Business as usual.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...we are just a bunch of right wingers for thinking it probably isn't a great idea to be involved with the Podesta bunch. They have lobbied for a lot of right wing crap over the years.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)For whomever pays them. And then funnel a chunk of the money into the DNC and it's high profile politicians for access and influence.
And it works.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)I'm trying to figure it out and can't... if I do I'll edit this post.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Hillary is unopposed to slave labor in the US in the form of starvation wages and she has the support from for profit prisons. And her daughter outright said it's troubling to think all the non-violent prisoners will be let loose.
dchill
(38,505 posts)Which is sad.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)code for exploiting human beings for cheap labor
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Meme's are hard to get away with now, too many smart eyes watchin'! Good job!
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)happy to help
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Four years ago, LOréal, renewed a commitment to adopt a model of sustainable development that was good for the environment, good for people, and good for business. LOréal developed a 10-year plan to reduce its environmental impact by engaging in more eco-conscious production, reducing waste, and creating an environmentally sound and healthy work space for employees, and wanted to ensure that its efforts in sustainability had an impact both within and beyond the walls of its facilities.
In May 2009 the LOreal Maybelline plant in Little Rock, Arkansas, became the first industry partner to participate in the Clinton Climate Initiatives Home Energy Affordability Loan (HEAL) program.
- See more at: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/main/clinton-foundation-blog.html/2013/05/02/case-study-heal-works-with-loreal-to-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions#sthash.QhQZ46Lu.dpuf
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EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)very good!!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)People should bring signs with those FACTS and pictures. Disgusting
I know I am supporting the right side of history.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)Thanks for the information.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Petrushka
(3,709 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Spurred by a post slamming a Sanders supporter....And yet that one little connection yields just one example of pervasive connections to dubious activities and affiliations. How many others are there?
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Do a little digging in here: http://www.muckety.com/John-D-Podesta/8565.muckety
The only person in DC he doesn't hold sway with is Bernie Sanders.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)one of the common threads that connects all of these corporatists Democrats... he's been helping fund them and the DNC for decades.
And the fact that she hired his straight away is so telling...
Make sure you also google Tony and Heather Podesta as well...
polly7
(20,582 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Everything that is dirty and corrupt in our country and the rest of the world for that matter.
The Koch brothers may be nasty but they are nothing compared to the Podesta bunch.
Logical
(22,457 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)to talk about L'Oreal earlier... so many crocodile tears and fake temper tantrums...
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Hoping this post is buried. KICK IT UP HIGH!!!
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I have always thought of her as the brown arabic child death master, now I see her as a slave enabler as well.
I will not be able to see her any other way unless she fires Podesta, all that are associated with his soiopathic lobbying firm and also condemns publicly and with some political weight called in with all the favors she has been calling in lately from her in office friends to stop this slave labor without equivocation or triangulation.
I know she will do none of this, so she is now the slave labor lady whenever I see her face.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)that's fueled by power and greed with no regard for the average human being. The only people that mean anything to her are all financially wealthy.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Slavery must be OK for @HillaryClinton as long as you not voting in #SCDemPrimary #SlaveLobby #FeelTheBern
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)excellent!
I also tweeted it out... I wasn't that clever though...
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)good work!
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Thanks!!!
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)even care about such slavery.
They support the 1%...no matter what heinous crimes are committed against humanity.
grasswire
(50,130 posts).......affecting her policy on free college.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's so outrageous.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)This is getting some stank on it.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Damn.
So, so, so corrupted.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Good for women!
It takes a Village to mine for L'Oreal!
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)damn dood... that's amazing...
I changed the OP and added your slogan.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Your OP has really important information. Stomach turning. Thanks for it.
Be sure to go see Michael Moore's new movie "Where To Invade Next".
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)But I'll watch it on netflix, etc., as soon as I can.
And you're welcome... I'm glad people are seeing it... I posted some stuff that I think is just as important and it just drops... ah well..
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)See my post in the other thread on this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1310763
But good find. It's research like this to verify/vet the smears that ends up killing them.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)it's fair:
Merck has since implemented several measures to make sure that "all mica used for the manufacture of our pigments comes from child labour free sources," the company said in a statement to AFP.
Activists however say remote areas make monitoring impossible and there is no way to guarantee the mica is child-labour free.
"I think for companies the situation has become a kind of passing the buck," said Bhuvan Ribhu of Bachpan Bachao Andolan NGO whose founder Kailash Satyarthi won last year's Nobel peace prize for his work combatting child labour.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Children-labour-to-bring-sparkle-to-make-up/articleshow/49318509.cms
They aren't checking - and simply asking for it to be child friendly is not a method that's ever world in any other industry.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)effectively enough...but L'Oreal is auditing all it's suppliers (according to them).
and because of all the information out there about ethical practices, how are people like Susan Sarandon to know whether they are using child labor or not? Apparently Hillary's campaign thinks they are acting responsibly.
You have to be in the business of procurement, and understand the auditing process, while realizing the potential for deceit, to be able to make knowledgeable and ethical choices. It's really not possible for a single individual to "know" anything for sure. Yet they want to hold an actress/activist responsible for knowing and choosing not to represent a company that claims it is auditing the process.
I just think they are really pushing the window of artful smears.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)I'd agree...
Saying that:
http://www.corp-research.org/merck
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, EdwardBernays.
lasttrip
(1,013 posts)thanks for the post EdwardBernays.
Peace to all the children.
LT
amborin
(16,631 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Twenty five years or so they had the animal cruelty activists going after them for cruelty in testing their products on animals. It seems to be a company without a soul or worse.
I don't use their products because I find them inferior in quality, but now I definitely won't ever use them.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)helping bring in millions and millions in profits for what you describe in your OP.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)what's worse, starring in one of their campaigns or taking their money for your "foundation" and your political campaign? And hiring the guy who owns their DC lobbying firm as your campaign chairman...?
Few people are gonna buy your crocodile tears, the way that your candidate has been bought and paid for by Merck and the weapons industry, Wall St. and Saudi Arabia, Morocco, etc.
Oh and don't forget Demi Lovato also advertises for them
JI7
(89,252 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)and the face of the Bernie campaign. She has made herself a spokesman for them. Clearly she makes possible the millions if not billions in profits.
You, however, see generating profits as fine but have a problem when the company donates to charitable organizations. That suggests some pretty odd priorities.
I don't even know who the fuck Demi Lavato is, other than her name appears in tabloids. The Clinton campaign certainly doesn't put her out there as a major spokeswoman, or insist she is to be believed over a civil rights icon like Dolores Huerta. You all made clear that you stand with Sarandon and her ilk above Dolores Huerta, who has risked her life for poor people. That reflects on you. Bernie and the rest of who have touted Sarandon to accuse women of voting with our "vaginas" (because any failure to vote for men and only men can only be the result of gynecological/genetic deviance), who accused a civil rights icon of lying by insisting that what mattered was "chanting" rather than denying Spanish translation. You all chose Sarandon as the face of your movement. You get to live with that fallout.
No one here is touting Podesta or Demi Lavato as superior to civil rights leaders, whether Ben Jealous, or anyone. That's not what we do. We don't pretend to be fighting a battle for the people while relying on 1 percenter after another to attack those same people, insisting any demographic group that doesn't vote how we demand is either too stupid or antisemetic to vote as we tell them.
You all chose to highlight and promote Sarandon to make a case for Bernie. You now own what comes with it.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Is a MUCH bigger star than Susan Sarandon.
I never choose to highlight Sarandon. So you know.
But someone taking a check to promote l'oreal is a far cry from taking campaign cash from lobbyists that work for Merck. And Weapons manufacturers. And other bug pharma. And Goldman Sachs and Saudi Arabia. And hired the owner of that firm as her campaign chairman. Who represents her in the media officially.
I know you wanna make it somehow equivalent, but the equivalent is Demi Lovato; both work for a company that shills for makeup that uses mica supplied by Merck.
Clinton herself is on a whole other level with Merck.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Demi Lovato is not a "MUCH" star than Susan Sarandon. Sarandon has been a well know star for 30-40 years. People of all ages know Susan Sarandon. I doubt all of the 18-24 segment know Demi Lovato. I am pretty certain very few people 25 and older know her name, or what she does. You would be hard pressed to find people over many people 25 who do not know Sarandon. Demi Lovato is mainly known for being written about in gossip magazine. Susan Sarandon is known for her acting work.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Is largely a has-been.
Can you name the last hit movie she stared in?
What about the last three?
Demi Lovato on the other hand has had number gold selling singles and records. Her last record was in the top 10 in the US.
She's a demonstrably much bigger star in 2016.
You're right that older people - people that spend a lot less on media - know a lot more about Sarandon than Lovato. But. Lovato is a brand in 2016 and represents a lot more money and influence than Sarandon.
I know it sucks to feel out of touch. But you're our of touch.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I am not out of touch. Once again Demi Lovato is rarely seen on TV unless it is related to gossip about her life. Lovato has put out five albums and only had three top ten billboard hits. Most of her other songs have been ranked in the 30s and 80s. You are not a brand in 2016 if most people do not know who you are and what you do. In my post I said even people in the 18-24 range probably do not know Demi Lovato. Go out and ask people in the age range of 18-24 who Demi Lovato is and what she does. Most will probably not know her. People of all ages know who Susan Sarandon is and what she does.
In 2014 Sarandon co-starred in the movie Tammy. That movie made $100 million.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)People of all ages don't know who Sarandon is.
Tammy was widely panned and was called a flop by many in the industry. It make 20m it's opening weekend and then went on to only make another 60 million. That's 80 million. Not 100. It also cost 20m to film and god knows how much to promote. Not a huge hit by any stretch.
As far as Lovato. You seem I think that having multiple billboard hits in the last few years and being on TV all the time for her personal stuff means she isn't famous. She is. That's what fame often looks like in 2016.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Tammy made $100 million at the box office. It made a little more than $80 million in America and then $16 million internationally. I am pretty certain it did not take $20-$60 million to promote the movie. So, even under conservative terms the movie was very profitable.
I guess whether or not Lovato has had its in the last few years depends on your definition of a hit. How do you define a hit? In five albums only three singles have been in the billboard top ten. She has never had a song reach number one on the billboard chart. So far none of the songs from her latest album have made it into the billboard top ten. What hits are you talking about?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=tammy.htm
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)I'm just realistic...
20 years ago Sarandon was huge... she can't carry a movie now... the biggest thing she's been in recently were flops by other famous people (Melissa McCarthy, the Wackowskis).
She still gets rolls, but not in popular movies, and none as the star of big movies... she's a mainstream has-been... blame hollywood, blame whatever you want, but unless you watched her in the 90s or before you have no idea who she is, unless you're a movie buff.
Demi Lovato on the other hand is on the radio non-stop around the world, and plays sold out shows around the world. She's on numerous tv shows and is a modern celebrity.
I don't like her, btw, and like Sarandon a lot, but objectively, Levato is CURRENTLY a bigger name, with more financial success and more active fans.
For the record, my favourite actress is Sigourney Weaver. She's starred in the lots of dodgy movies, yes, and some absolutely amazing movies (Ice Storm, Death and the Maiden), but what makes HER a huge star - much bigger than Levato, is that to this day she's still starring in massively successful movies (eg Avatar, Wall-E) and she's doing voice work for things like the Aliens video games, which earns her praise and legions of new fans.
I do REALLY like Sarandon as an actress, but she's not making successful movies any more. And hasn't for a long, long time. And that's not likely to change any time soon. For the record the same is true for her ex.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)"Did you knows" to dolores huerta ?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Ms. Sarandon isn't running for president.
"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"
George II
(67,782 posts)Funny how that works, huh?
http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2016/01/08/susan-sarandon-face-of-loreal-paris-2016/
Armstead
(47,803 posts)A post criticizing sanders because one of his supporters is a spokes model.
A little digging turned this little gem up.
Funny how that works m, huh?
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)both candidates have supporters that have done advertising work for them.
Only one hired the guy who owns their lobbying form as their campaign chairman.
Only one has been financially supported by that same lobbying firm, for years.
Only one has taken hundreds of grand for their "foundation" from Merck directly, while deciding on Merck related deals as SOS.
But yea, you are right... they do have one thing in common.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)like all the weapons manufacturers... how many civilians have been killed by eg Boeing weapons in Yemen? A lot.
And she brokered that deal at State, and took money from Boeing for the "Foundation" AND Bill took 250K from Boeing for one speech.
They also have taken untold sums from Saudi Arabia (her campaign chairman owns the lobbying firm that represent Saudi Arabia as well... of course).
snort
(2,334 posts)It's either a small small world or a many tentacled beast.
Yeah, its the beast. You can take it for a ride but sometimes it'll bite your ass.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)in KSA and justify their execution and imprisonment policies. They represent a huge number of the world's most awful people/groups.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Spot on!
Segami
(14,923 posts)Thanks EdwardBernays..........
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Besides, a donor for HRC did it, so it's acceptable to about 50% of the people here. What's wrong with slave labor if it help HRC get into the White House?
The more that comes out about this woman and her sponsors, donors and campaign contributors, the more I need to ask HRC supporters here on DU. . .how can you honestly call yourself a liberal or a progressive and support this woman at all?
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)liberals or progressives can support her...
everyone else can't actually be either and support this crap... what kind of liberal takes hundreds of grand from weapons manufactuers? Or brokers billions in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia?
Or rubber stamps authoritarian regimes, like Bill did, to help a donor get a uranium deal?
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Children living in Flint MI don't matter either. At best they're good for a photo op.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
still_one
(92,219 posts)"I was of course very aware of and very affected by their "because I'm worth it" slogan from way back when. At the time it happened that was so huge, really. So huge to want to look beautiful because you're worth it rather than because you're trying to impress somebody."
http://www.vogue.co.uk/beauty/2016/01/08/susan-sarandon-interview-loreal-paris-ambassador
Well, I guess I am impressed
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Clearly you did much needed research and hard work.
This isn't a pretty big deal; it's a horrifying revelation.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)It's very funny that your screen name is what it is! Strikes me as a very elegant joke, given his role in the history of consumer capitalism.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)except the rich animals are more equal than the poor ones...
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)How dare you cast aspersions on Merck's Satanic corporate majesty!
artislife
(9,497 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)HPV vaccinations are reducing cancers NOWl I sure hope you are not saying that they should be withdrawn.
A huge advance in living longer has been vaccines, including flu, polio, etc.
I hope no one here is an anti-vaccer. My brother had polio and he did well, but so many people did not.
Go Bernie!!!
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Thank you and I am bookmarking this!
Bernblu
(441 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)I knew there was something about that beady-eyed punk I didn't like. And you just filled in the blanks for me. Thanks for the links.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Someday may they all wake up and realize actions have consequences. Deadly, horrific consequences.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)mariawr
(348 posts)Thirty pieces of silver
Jughead
(42 posts)Its too late for her to be president. Maybe 8 years ago but she has gone way to right for me. This story just proves again who is running the country.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)So a picture will have to do.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)OUCH!!!!!! That hurt or should.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...in the fight against the disease, river blindness:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/22/world/merck-offers-free-distribution-of-new-river-blindness-drug.html
But the company has gone downhill.