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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:55 PM Feb 2016

UPDATE Guess who owns the lobbying firm for L'Oreal's slave labor mining company? You'll never guess

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:28 PM - Edit history (2)

L'Oreal's mica supplier in India is Merck.

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/india-child-labour-mica-mineral-cosmetics
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Children-labour-to-bring-sparkle-to-make-up/articleshow/49318509.cms

Merck - ah Merck.

Merck pays the PODESTA GROUP to lobby for it in the US.

You may remember the Podesta Group as it's co-owned by Hillary's CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN.

The Podesta Group has also donated and bundled hundreds of grand for... you guessed it... Hillary Clinton.

Meaning that some of Hillary's campaign is paid for with profits from... Child slave labour...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_Group

I believe that all those Clinton supporters that were so outraged should consider their position, as they're now supporting the child slave labor funded candidate for President.



Here's a list of the wonderful people that pay her campaign chairman's firm to "influence" DC for them:

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/firmlbs.php?id=D000022193


UPDATE:


Clinton has attacked pharmaceutical companies on the campaign trail, but she took the time to meet personally with the CEO of one while serving as secretary of state.

Clinton invited Kenneth Frazier, president and CEO of Merck, to meet with her at the State Department headquarters in Washington, D.C., in March 2012, according to a schedule released among her private emails.

Merck has donated between $250,000 and $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

In addition, Merck spent millions on lobbying during Clinton's tenure, including efforts to lobby the State Department, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nine-times-clinton-foundation-donors-got-special-access-at-state/article/2580451

And:

Pharmaceutical company Merck & Co. is also a member of the Clinton Global Initiative, company spokeswoman Amy Rose said. Merck joined CGI in 2006, when dues were $15,000, and also was a member in 2007 and in 2008, when membership dues rose to $20,000. As part of its commitment to CGI, Merck sponsors public health initiatives around the world, Rose said. Merck joined CGI on its own initiative, she said.

Sen. Clinton wrote a November 2005 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt urging approval of the human papillomavirus vaccine. Merck applied in December 2005 for approval of its HPV vaccine, Gardasil, and the vaccine was approved for use in females ages 9 to 26. Merck is still seeking approval for use in older women, Rose said.

Rose said Merck's participation in the Clinton Global Initiative was unrelated to Sen. Clinton's letter. Merck didn't communicate with Clinton or her office about its HPV vaccine and was unaware of her letter before it was sent, Rose said.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/report-hillary-clinton-acted-concerns-bill-clinton-foundation-donors-article-1.424994

LEARN MORE ABOUT MERCK HERE:

http://www.corp-research.org/merck

Edit: it would be pretty good if a few people tweeted this out to a few people. This is a pretty big deal.

Rachel@msnbc.com might also like to know. Ahem.
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UPDATE Guess who owns the lobbying firm for L'Oreal's slave labor mining company? You'll never guess (Original Post) EdwardBernays Feb 2016 OP
Excellent work. cali Feb 2016 #1
Sad EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #11
Podesta ran the organization that made illegal robocalls to mis-inform African American voters berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #13
Podesta EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #14
Podesta's brother and sister-in-law do work for Koch Industries and Oil & Fracking. firms. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #37
yep EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #50
I cannot begin to explain how disgusted I am by this... I need some air... Bubzer Feb 2016 #109
Perhaps it's those Democrats with cosy inbred oil (Koch/BP) relationships, like Hillary's Podesta. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #73
excellent and informative EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #76
Wow, that's damaging. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #148
First Guy Into The WH on 1/20/09 Was John Podesta! Got To BREAK The Corrupt Establishment CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #127
Did the OP mention that Susan Surandon is a spokesperson for L'Oreal? brush Feb 2016 #128
I guess I missed your point. Are you trying to justify Clinton's connections by rhett o rick Feb 2016 #135
Susan Sarandon goes around bad-mouthing Hillary's connections, while peddling L'Oreal LisaM Feb 2016 #161
You are comparing apples and french fries. Trying to distract from the fact rhett o rick Feb 2016 #162
holy SHIT! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #2
it can only get worse for her. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #3
She seems to be like Reagan in that sense.. TEFLON. pangaia Feb 2016 #32
Mostly because Sanders won't use stuff like this against her. JoeyT Feb 2016 #64
Then we need to do it Politicalboi Feb 2016 #104
I completely agree. JoeyT Feb 2016 #105
That, AND that the M$M owns Hillary. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #130
MSM love her. They try to keep Bernie out of the picture as much as possible. Duval Feb 2016 #132
. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4
OMG! That is hilarious! Thank you. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #9
it was a small project for a saturday afternoon tk2kewl Feb 2016 #17
LOL!! Segami Feb 2016 #113
Oh my. I hear the hypocrisy Gods cheering now. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #5
kick kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #6
k/r AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #7
The webs of connection are everywhere silenttigersong Feb 2016 #8
Nestle EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #10
wow. No words. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #12
Podesta family... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #15
It's worse than that EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #18
But... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #20
They lobby EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #21
Have they contributed to the Hillary Victory Fund? no text DhhD Feb 2016 #83
walmart has EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #91
Is this really a shock??? Kalidurga Feb 2016 #16
Actually, no, it's not a shock. dchill Feb 2016 #31
Not at all. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #62
not to mention the guest worker program restorefreedom Feb 2016 #78
And driving down wages for us citizens Kalidurga Feb 2016 #81
Wow. AzDar Feb 2016 #19
Woah! Bet they didn't see that one coming! ebayfool Feb 2016 #22
thanks ;) EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #28
While You're at it.....From the Clinton Foundation Website Armstead Feb 2016 #23
good catch!! EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #27
Thank Mr. Google Armstead Feb 2016 #29
Thanks Armstead. zentrum Feb 2016 #60
I wonder if she'll show up there for the primary Politicalboi Feb 2016 #106
This is sickening. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #24
I'm sure that, like deportation, is "sending a message to their parents" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #25
By her friends you shall know her heart. Kissinger, Blumenthal, The Fellowship, Podesta.... peacebird Feb 2016 #26
and she attended trump's wedding. MariaThinks Feb 2016 #36
here's the instigating thread MisterP Feb 2016 #30
That spun around and bit 'em. n/t sarge43 Feb 2016 #75
Aw-w, nice! Petrushka Feb 2016 #33
What is really disconcerting is this is just one of many hidden links Armstead Feb 2016 #34
i guessed that. MariaThinks Feb 2016 #35
John Podesta is a major POS. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #38
he's also EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #39
That relationship map is pretty amazing. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #42
Oh yah. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #74
CRICKETS from the hill fans. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #40
They were sooooooo desperate EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #41
They Are Speechless... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #54
Any whines ordinaire yet? n/t sarge43 Feb 2016 #119
Fuck that guy Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #43
She will always in my mind now be the supporter of black child slave labor in the millennial age Dragonfli Feb 2016 #44
I see her as a lying and cheating warmonger Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #125
Just tweeted this out w/ tag line Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #45
boom EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #48
Give it a push. Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #51
done EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #55
R/T!!! LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #57
this is just a symptom of something much bigger ill kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #46
The Hill supporters aren't outraged by Prisons for Profit, so doubt they would SoapBox Feb 2016 #47
or Bill taking 17.5 million from the private college corp... grasswire Feb 2016 #56
Absolutely agree! SoapBox Feb 2016 #82
THe deper you dig the shittier it gets. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #49
K/R!!! LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #52
the hits just keep coming grasswire Feb 2016 #53
Good for children! zentrum Feb 2016 #58
bwhahahahaa EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #59
Hahaha. zentrum Feb 2016 #96
It probably won't play near me EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #97
I'm not sure L'Oreal has an ethical problem passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #61
When you get too big to manage your own operations, that leads to ethical probnlems Armstead Feb 2016 #63
I think EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #65
Of course they are most likely not auditing often enough, nor passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #69
that's right EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #70
K&R What a surprise! Live and Learn Feb 2016 #66
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #67
wow. lasttrip Feb 2016 #68
this is who Mrs. Wall Street and her associates are: evil amborin Feb 2016 #71
What is it with l'Oreal? Cleita Feb 2016 #72
I certainly won't....but I'm just a sloppy guy Armstead Feb 2016 #80
Haha! Cleita Feb 2016 #114
And your star Bernie supporter advertises for them BainsBane Feb 2016 #77
let's see EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #79
you do know she gets paid for doing the ad JI7 Feb 2016 #85
Susan Sarandon is the FACE of Loreal BainsBane Feb 2016 #93
Demi Lovato EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #95
Please Stop erpowers Feb 2016 #108
Sarandon EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #112
No erpowers Feb 2016 #133
Lol EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #142
$100 Million erpowers Feb 2016 #154
Demi Lovato Is a MUCH bigger star than Susan Sarandon. U must be young YOHABLO Feb 2016 #145
I'm not EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #146
L'Oreal International Ambassador & Spoksperson, Clinton Stumper, Latino Victory Fund appalachiablue Feb 2016 #122
She isn't running for president. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #137
did she mention that in one of her JI7 Feb 2016 #87
So is that justification for Clinton's connections? I hate to tell you but rhett o rick Feb 2016 #136
Isn't outspoken Sanders supporter Susan Sarandon also a l'oreal spokesperson? George II Feb 2016 #84
That's how this came about Armstead Feb 2016 #86
apples and oranges EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #89
"...Only one has been financially supported by that same lobbying firm, for years..." slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #116
Business. Octafish Feb 2016 #88
she needs to give back the money Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #90
she's actually taken money from FAAAAAAAAAR worse EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #92
BOOOOM! snort Feb 2016 #94
Podesta Group is also doing PR for the Saudi royals to help slime human rights activists Mufaddal Feb 2016 #98
Absolutely EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #99
KICK!! Segami Feb 2016 #100
Ehh. . .it's only some third world shithole. If only our children had that work ethic Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #101
Only ignorant EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #103
Disgusting and morally reprehensible. Aldo Leopold Feb 2016 #102
Good work. Thanks for posting. K&R eom Purveyor Feb 2016 #107
They aren't children of US voters so they don't matter. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #110
They aren't children of the 1% sarge43 Feb 2016 #118
You mean Bernie Supporter Susan Sarandon is actually working for Hillary????? boston bean Feb 2016 #111
Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Feb 2016 #115
L'Oréal Paris names Susan Sarandon its latest ambassador, still_one Feb 2016 #117
Thank you sarge43 Feb 2016 #120
And one more thing. zentrum Feb 2016 #121
Nothing more essential than getting money out of politics...it hurts people all over the world. K&R Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #123
Ugh--yet another black eye for Hill/Bill/Clinton Foundation panader0 Feb 2016 #124
Disgraceful EndElectoral Feb 2016 #126
Kick azmom Feb 2016 #129
All animals are equal... humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #131
The OP is anti-Merckican! mhatrw Feb 2016 #134
Hee! Very witty! artislife Feb 2016 #140
figures. nt Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #138
HPV vaccination will reduce deaths to all of us. I hope you are not saying we should not offer this. Akamai Feb 2016 #139
Wow! I am impressed! Great research! emsimon33 Feb 2016 #141
Hillary is for Children??? These are despicable people who run her campaign. Bernblu Feb 2016 #143
K&R ReRe Feb 2016 #144
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #147
Recommend for Exposure! KoKo Feb 2016 #149
Her and many, many others invested in Wall St. raouldukelives Feb 2016 #150
K&R me b zola Feb 2016 #151
Where's Susan Sarandon when you need her? MADem Feb 2016 #152
And that negates the point of the OP? Armstead Feb 2016 #158
.... MADem Feb 2016 #159
Seems the DLC and Pubbies are two sides of the same coin.... mariawr Feb 2016 #153
Shame on "that woman" Jughead Feb 2016 #155
I have no words. Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2016 #156
if true heaven05 Feb 2016 #157
In better days, Merck did a lot to help... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #160

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
11. Sad
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

How often you hear a company doing something shifty and then learn that they're represented by Podesta.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
13. Podesta ran the organization that made illegal robocalls to mis-inform African American voters
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

in 2008. I don't know why she is not held accountable for dealing with the Devil here. In 2008 it was Mark Penn (who was just as evil), infamous for negotiating the trade deal with Columbia for Bush while he was Clinton's campaign manager.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
14. Podesta
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

Was an official advisor to Obama, part of the Obama Biden transition team and Bill Clinton's Chief of Staff.

He and his brother and his wife have raised untold sums for the DNC and the Clintons.

That's why.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
73. Perhaps it's those Democrats with cosy inbred oil (Koch/BP) relationships, like Hillary's Podesta.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

.


Check out the link...

Fracking, KXL, If election, would she do a Chris Christie and let ExxonMobile out of a Climate Change/Pollution settlement?



Hillary Clinton rakes in money from fossil fuel interests


Here’s just a partial list of the fossil fuel–friendly bundlers who raised money for Clinton from April through June:


http://grist.org/climate-energy/hillary-clinton-rakes-in-money-from-fossil-fuel-interests/


Heather Podesta and Tony Podesta have raised $31,150 and $74,575, respectively. The power ex-couple are big-shot Democratic lobbyists. Tony’s brother John is Clinton’s campaign chair and former White House chief of staff to Bill Clinton. Even though John Podesta is considered a climate hawk, Tony and his ex-wife Heather represent fossil fuel companies. Heather’s recent past clients include Marathon Oil and Bill Koch’s Oxbow Carbon, a coal giant, and from 2004 to 2006 she lobbied for Koch Industries. Tony lobbied for BP in the wake of its disastrous Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion, and through last year he represented Golden Pass, a company co-owned by ExxonMobil and Qatar Petroleum that wants to export liquefied natural gas. To be fair, they also work on behalf of renewable fuel companies — Tony represents SolarReserve, a solar power company, and Heather lobbies for the ethanol industry. You might call the Podestas the very embodiment of the Obama/Clinton “all of the above” energy policy.



But the contrast between her and her opponents is clear, and it’s indicative of real policy differences. O’Malley has laid out a set of strong, detailed proposals to combat climate change. These include not just measures Obama has begun taking, like regulating carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act, but ones he hasn’t, like adopting zero-tolerance regulation for methane leaks from oil and gas wells and denying new offshore oil leasing permits. Clinton has not endorsed any stances beyond Obama’s except for charging more for coal leases.



“Hillary Clinton’s position is stuck in the past,” says Jamie Henn, a spokesperson for 350 Action. “We have the tools to transition away from fossil fuels. What about all the jobs lost because of climate impacts? We need a president who is willing to make tough decisions about how to transition our economy in the face of climate risk.”




.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
148. Wow, that's damaging.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

I wonder how Hillary can claim she wants to continue President Obama's policies, when President Obama has made it clear for years that he supports clean industries to produce more energy, that is, wind power and solar polar.

This is a direct contradiction of President Obama's energy policies.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
127. First Guy Into The WH on 1/20/09 Was John Podesta! Got To BREAK The Corrupt Establishment
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:55 PM
Feb 2016

Poweer Structure that includes such nefarious characters as Podesta!

brush

(53,787 posts)
128. Did the OP mention that Susan Surandon is a spokesperson for L'Oreal?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder if she mentioned that to Delores Huerta as she harangue her about Clinton's connections?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
135. I guess I missed your point. Are you trying to justify Clinton's connections by
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

bad mouthing Ms. Sarandon? I don't give a crap about Ms. Sarandon, but HRC is not a friend of the 99%.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
162. You are comparing apples and french fries. Trying to distract from the fact
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

that HRC has some bad connections. It doesn't matter who points them out if they are true. If they aren't true, then you should point that out instead of trying to discredit those that are pointing it out.

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

"Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative. "

Turn your back on the massive wealth that has cause so much pain to the 99% and join the People's Movement.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. it can only get worse for her.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

Just heard bernie talk on MSNBC. Positive message, positive approach, and looking to future victories.
Wait til he and DeTrump learn about this crap.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
64. Mostly because Sanders won't use stuff like this against her.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

When the general starts, that will end fairly quickly.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
104. Then we need to do it
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

It's not being mean, it's protecting our ass. She will lose come November if she is the nominee.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
105. I completely agree.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

I mean, Sanders barely hit her on being friends with Kissinger ffs. Meanwhile she sends out surrogates to tell every lie they think will stick.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
132. MSM love her. They try to keep Bernie out of the picture as much as possible.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

The problem is, they can no longer ignore him. I am very grateful for Social Media.

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
8. The webs of connection are everywhere
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

Chk out Nestles co connection with slave labor Cheryl Mills (Clinton aid) Clinton Fondation.It is sickening after awhile.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
15. Podesta family...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

...dirty bunch of lobbyists. It's disappointing to me that Hillary is willing to work with them.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
18. It's worse than that
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:11 PM
Feb 2016

They were a big part of the Obama and Bill Clinton White House as well.

Business as usual.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
20. But...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:12 PM
Feb 2016

...we are just a bunch of right wingers for thinking it probably isn't a great idea to be involved with the Podesta bunch. They have lobbied for a lot of right wing crap over the years.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
21. They lobby
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

For whomever pays them. And then funnel a chunk of the money into the DNC and it's high profile politicians for access and influence.

And it works.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
16. Is this really a shock???
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:10 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is unopposed to slave labor in the US in the form of starvation wages and she has the support from for profit prisons. And her daughter outright said it's troubling to think all the non-violent prisoners will be let loose.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
22. Woah! Bet they didn't see that one coming!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

Meme's are hard to get away with now, too many smart eyes watchin'! Good job!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. While You're at it.....From the Clinton Foundation Website
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/blog/tag/l'oreal

Four years ago, L’Oréal, renewed a commitment to adopt a model of sustainable development that was good for the environment, good for people, and good for business. L’Oréal developed a 10-year plan to reduce its environmental impact by engaging in more eco-conscious production, reducing waste, and creating an environmentally sound and healthy work space for employees, and wanted to ensure that its efforts in sustainability had an impact both within and beyond the walls of its facilities.

In May 2009 the L’Oreal Maybelline plant in Little Rock, Arkansas, became the first industry partner to participate in the Clinton Climate Initiative’s Home Energy Affordability Loan (HEAL) program.

- See more at: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/main/clinton-foundation-blog.html/2013/05/02/case-study-heal-works-with-loreal-to-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions#sthash.QhQZ46Lu.dpuf

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Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
106. I wonder if she'll show up there for the primary
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

People should bring signs with those FACTS and pictures. Disgusting

I know I am supporting the right side of history.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. What is really disconcerting is this is just one of many hidden links
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:35 PM
Feb 2016

Spurred by a post slamming a Sanders supporter....And yet that one little connection yields just one example of pervasive connections to dubious activities and affiliations. How many others are there?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
39. he's also
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

one of the common threads that connects all of these corporatists Democrats... he's been helping fund them and the DNC for decades.

And the fact that she hired his straight away is so telling...

Make sure you also google Tony and Heather Podesta as well...

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
74. Oh yah.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

Everything that is dirty and corrupt in our country and the rest of the world for that matter.

The Koch brothers may be nasty but they are nothing compared to the Podesta bunch.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
41. They were sooooooo desperate
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

to talk about L'Oreal earlier... so many crocodile tears and fake temper tantrums...

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
44. She will always in my mind now be the supporter of black child slave labor in the millennial age
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:54 PM
Feb 2016
She loves children alright, unless they are brown and speak arabic, then she likes to see them die by the hundreds of thousands or they are children unlucky enough to play with cluster bomblets (that looks like toys) that are spread out in many places waiting to still explode as a child triggers the ones the initial deployment didn't, she refuses any attempts to ban these evil weapons or even landmines for that matter.

I have always thought of her as the brown arabic child death master, now I see her as a slave enabler as well.

I will not be able to see her any other way unless she fires Podesta, all that are associated with his soiopathic lobbying firm and also condemns publicly and with some political weight called in with all the favors she has been calling in lately from her in office friends to stop this slave labor without equivocation or triangulation.

I know she will do none of this, so she is now the slave labor lady whenever I see her face.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
125. I see her as a lying and cheating warmonger
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

that's fueled by power and greed with no regard for the average human being. The only people that mean anything to her are all financially wealthy.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
45. Just tweeted this out w/ tag line
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

Slavery must be OK for @HillaryClinton as long as you not voting in #SCDemPrimary #SlaveLobby #FeelTheBern

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
47. The Hill supporters aren't outraged by Prisons for Profit, so doubt they would
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

even care about such slavery.

They support the 1%...no matter what heinous crimes are committed against humanity.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
56. or Bill taking 17.5 million from the private college corp...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

.......affecting her policy on free college.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
96. Hahaha.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:31 PM
Feb 2016

Your OP has really important information. Stomach turning. Thanks for it.

Be sure to go see Michael Moore's new movie "Where To Invade Next".

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
97. It probably won't play near me
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

But I'll watch it on netflix, etc., as soon as I can.

And you're welcome... I'm glad people are seeing it... I posted some stuff that I think is just as important and it just drops... ah well..

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
61. I'm not sure L'Oreal has an ethical problem
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

See my post in the other thread on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1310763

But good find. It's research like this to verify/vet the smears that ends up killing them.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
65. I think
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

it's fair:

Merck has since implemented several measures to make sure that "all mica used for the manufacture of our pigments comes from child labour free sources," the company said in a statement to AFP.

Activists however say remote areas make monitoring impossible and there is no way to guarantee the mica is child-labour free.

"I think for companies the situation has become a kind of passing the buck," said Bhuvan Ribhu of Bachpan Bachao Andolan NGO whose founder Kailash Satyarthi won last year's Nobel peace prize for his work combatting child labour.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Children-labour-to-bring-sparkle-to-make-up/articleshow/49318509.cms

They aren't checking - and simply asking for it to be child friendly is not a method that's ever world in any other industry.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
69. Of course they are most likely not auditing often enough, nor
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

effectively enough...but L'Oreal is auditing all it's suppliers (according to them).

and because of all the information out there about ethical practices, how are people like Susan Sarandon to know whether they are using child labor or not? Apparently Hillary's campaign thinks they are acting responsibly.

You have to be in the business of procurement, and understand the auditing process, while realizing the potential for deceit, to be able to make knowledgeable and ethical choices. It's really not possible for a single individual to "know" anything for sure. Yet they want to hold an actress/activist responsible for knowing and choosing not to represent a company that claims it is auditing the process.

I just think they are really pushing the window of artful smears.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
72. What is it with l'Oreal?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

Twenty five years or so they had the animal cruelty activists going after them for cruelty in testing their products on animals. It seems to be a company without a soul or worse.

I don't use their products because I find them inferior in quality, but now I definitely won't ever use them.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
77. And your star Bernie supporter advertises for them
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:52 PM
Feb 2016

helping bring in millions and millions in profits for what you describe in your OP.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
79. let's see
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

what's worse, starring in one of their campaigns or taking their money for your "foundation" and your political campaign? And hiring the guy who owns their DC lobbying firm as your campaign chairman...?

Few people are gonna buy your crocodile tears, the way that your candidate has been bought and paid for by Merck and the weapons industry, Wall St. and Saudi Arabia, Morocco, etc.

Oh and don't forget Demi Lovato also advertises for them

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
93. Susan Sarandon is the FACE of Loreal
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

and the face of the Bernie campaign. She has made herself a spokesman for them. Clearly she makes possible the millions if not billions in profits.

You, however, see generating profits as fine but have a problem when the company donates to charitable organizations. That suggests some pretty odd priorities.

I don't even know who the fuck Demi Lavato is, other than her name appears in tabloids. The Clinton campaign certainly doesn't put her out there as a major spokeswoman, or insist she is to be believed over a civil rights icon like Dolores Huerta. You all made clear that you stand with Sarandon and her ilk above Dolores Huerta, who has risked her life for poor people. That reflects on you. Bernie and the rest of who have touted Sarandon to accuse women of voting with our "vaginas" (because any failure to vote for men and only men can only be the result of gynecological/genetic deviance), who accused a civil rights icon of lying by insisting that what mattered was "chanting" rather than denying Spanish translation. You all chose Sarandon as the face of your movement. You get to live with that fallout.

No one here is touting Podesta or Demi Lavato as superior to civil rights leaders, whether Ben Jealous, or anyone. That's not what we do. We don't pretend to be fighting a battle for the people while relying on 1 percenter after another to attack those same people, insisting any demographic group that doesn't vote how we demand is either too stupid or antisemetic to vote as we tell them.

You all chose to highlight and promote Sarandon to make a case for Bernie. You now own what comes with it.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
95. Demi Lovato
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

Is a MUCH bigger star than Susan Sarandon.

I never choose to highlight Sarandon. So you know.

But someone taking a check to promote l'oreal is a far cry from taking campaign cash from lobbyists that work for Merck. And Weapons manufacturers. And other bug pharma. And Goldman Sachs and Saudi Arabia. And hired the owner of that firm as her campaign chairman. Who represents her in the media officially.

I know you wanna make it somehow equivalent, but the equivalent is Demi Lovato; both work for a company that shills for makeup that uses mica supplied by Merck.

Clinton herself is on a whole other level with Merck.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
108. Please Stop
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

Demi Lovato is not a "MUCH" star than Susan Sarandon. Sarandon has been a well know star for 30-40 years. People of all ages know Susan Sarandon. I doubt all of the 18-24 segment know Demi Lovato. I am pretty certain very few people 25 and older know her name, or what she does. You would be hard pressed to find people over many people 25 who do not know Sarandon. Demi Lovato is mainly known for being written about in gossip magazine. Susan Sarandon is known for her acting work.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
112. Sarandon
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

Is largely a has-been.

Can you name the last hit movie she stared in?

What about the last three?

Demi Lovato on the other hand has had number gold selling singles and records. Her last record was in the top 10 in the US.

She's a demonstrably much bigger star in 2016.

You're right that older people - people that spend a lot less on media - know a lot more about Sarandon than Lovato. But. Lovato is a brand in 2016 and represents a lot more money and influence than Sarandon.

I know it sucks to feel out of touch. But you're our of touch.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
133. No
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

I am not out of touch. Once again Demi Lovato is rarely seen on TV unless it is related to gossip about her life. Lovato has put out five albums and only had three top ten billboard hits. Most of her other songs have been ranked in the 30s and 80s. You are not a brand in 2016 if most people do not know who you are and what you do. In my post I said even people in the 18-24 range probably do not know Demi Lovato. Go out and ask people in the age range of 18-24 who Demi Lovato is and what she does. Most will probably not know her. People of all ages know who Susan Sarandon is and what she does.

In 2014 Sarandon co-starred in the movie Tammy. That movie made $100 million.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
142. Lol
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:16 AM
Feb 2016

People of all ages don't know who Sarandon is.

Tammy was widely panned and was called a flop by many in the industry. It make 20m it's opening weekend and then went on to only make another 60 million. That's 80 million. Not 100. It also cost 20m to film and god knows how much to promote. Not a huge hit by any stretch.

As far as Lovato. You seem I think that having multiple billboard hits in the last few years and being on TV all the time for her personal stuff means she isn't famous. She is. That's what fame often looks like in 2016.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
154. $100 Million
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

Tammy made $100 million at the box office. It made a little more than $80 million in America and then $16 million internationally. I am pretty certain it did not take $20-$60 million to promote the movie. So, even under conservative terms the movie was very profitable.

I guess whether or not Lovato has had its in the last few years depends on your definition of a hit. How do you define a hit? In five albums only three singles have been in the billboard top ten. She has never had a song reach number one on the billboard chart. So far none of the songs from her latest album have made it into the billboard top ten. What hits are you talking about?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=tammy.htm

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
146. I'm not
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:15 AM
Feb 2016

I'm just realistic...

20 years ago Sarandon was huge... she can't carry a movie now... the biggest thing she's been in recently were flops by other famous people (Melissa McCarthy, the Wackowskis).

She still gets rolls, but not in popular movies, and none as the star of big movies... she's a mainstream has-been... blame hollywood, blame whatever you want, but unless you watched her in the 90s or before you have no idea who she is, unless you're a movie buff.

Demi Lovato on the other hand is on the radio non-stop around the world, and plays sold out shows around the world. She's on numerous tv shows and is a modern celebrity.

I don't like her, btw, and like Sarandon a lot, but objectively, Levato is CURRENTLY a bigger name, with more financial success and more active fans.

For the record, my favourite actress is Sigourney Weaver. She's starred in the lots of dodgy movies, yes, and some absolutely amazing movies (Ice Storm, Death and the Maiden), but what makes HER a huge star - much bigger than Levato, is that to this day she's still starring in massively successful movies (eg Avatar, Wall-E) and she's doing voice work for things like the Aliens video games, which earns her praise and legions of new fans.

I do REALLY like Sarandon as an actress, but she's not making successful movies any more. And hasn't for a long, long time. And that's not likely to change any time soon. For the record the same is true for her ex.




 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
136. So is that justification for Clinton's connections? I hate to tell you but
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

Ms. Sarandon isn't running for president.

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
86. That's how this came about
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

A post criticizing sanders because one of his supporters is a spokes model.

A little digging turned this little gem up.

Funny how that works m, huh?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
89. apples and oranges
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:14 PM
Feb 2016

both candidates have supporters that have done advertising work for them.

Only one hired the guy who owns their lobbying form as their campaign chairman.

Only one has been financially supported by that same lobbying firm, for years.

Only one has taken hundreds of grand for their "foundation" from Merck directly, while deciding on Merck related deals as SOS.

But yea, you are right... they do have one thing in common.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
92. she's actually taken money from FAAAAAAAAAR worse
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

like all the weapons manufacturers... how many civilians have been killed by eg Boeing weapons in Yemen? A lot.

And she brokered that deal at State, and took money from Boeing for the "Foundation" AND Bill took 250K from Boeing for one speech.

They also have taken untold sums from Saudi Arabia (her campaign chairman owns the lobbying firm that represent Saudi Arabia as well... of course).

snort

(2,334 posts)
94. BOOOOM!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

It's either a small small world or a many tentacled beast.



Yeah, its the beast. You can take it for a ride but sometimes it'll bite your ass.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
98. Podesta Group is also doing PR for the Saudi royals to help slime human rights activists
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

in KSA and justify their execution and imprisonment policies. They represent a huge number of the world's most awful people/groups.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
101. Ehh. . .it's only some third world shithole. If only our children had that work ethic
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Besides, a donor for HRC did it, so it's acceptable to about 50% of the people here. What's wrong with slave labor if it help HRC get into the White House?

The more that comes out about this woman and her sponsors, donors and campaign contributors, the more I need to ask HRC supporters here on DU. . .how can you honestly call yourself a liberal or a progressive and support this woman at all?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
103. Only ignorant
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

liberals or progressives can support her...

everyone else can't actually be either and support this crap... what kind of liberal takes hundreds of grand from weapons manufactuers? Or brokers billions in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia?

Or rubber stamps authoritarian regimes, like Bill did, to help a donor get a uranium deal?

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
118. They aren't children of the 1%
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

Children living in Flint MI don't matter either. At best they're good for a photo op.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
117. L'Oréal Paris names Susan Sarandon its latest ambassador,
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

"I was of course very aware of and very affected by their "because I'm worth it" slogan from way back when. At the time it happened that was so huge, really. So huge to want to look beautiful because you're worth it rather than because you're trying to impress somebody."

http://www.vogue.co.uk/beauty/2016/01/08/susan-sarandon-interview-loreal-paris-ambassador

Well, I guess I am impressed

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
120. Thank you
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:12 PM
Feb 2016

Clearly you did much needed research and hard work.

This isn't a pretty big deal; it's a horrifying revelation.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
121. And one more thing.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:23 PM
Feb 2016

It's very funny that your screen name is what it is! Strikes me as a very elegant joke, given his role in the history of consumer capitalism.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
139. HPV vaccination will reduce deaths to all of us. I hope you are not saying we should not offer this.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

HPV vaccinations are reducing cancers NOWl I sure hope you are not saying that they should be withdrawn.

A huge advance in living longer has been vaccines, including flu, polio, etc.

I hope no one here is an anti-vaccer. My brother had polio and he did well, but so many people did not.

Go Bernie!!!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
144. K&R
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:51 AM
Feb 2016

I knew there was something about that beady-eyed punk I didn't like. And you just filled in the blanks for me. Thanks for the links.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
150. Her and many, many others invested in Wall St.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

Someday may they all wake up and realize actions have consequences. Deadly, horrific consequences.

Jughead

(42 posts)
155. Shame on "that woman"
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

Its too late for her to be president. Maybe 8 years ago but she has gone way to right for me. This story just proves again who is running the country.

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