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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:15 PM Feb 2016

In the wake of Sanders abandoning South Carolina

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:58 PM - Edit history (1)

The difference between Sanders and Obama has become clear. Obama campained everywhere regardless of the demographics or likelyhood of victory. Sanders is more strategic.

2/22 Monday: Massachusetts
2/23 Tuesday: West Virginia
2/24 Wednesday: Oklahoma

http://blog.4president.us/2016/bernie-sanders

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In the wake of Sanders abandoning South Carolina (Original Post) Renew Deal Feb 2016 OP
How is holding rallies, meetings in churches, in SC "abandoning" it? peacebird Feb 2016 #1
He's everywhere but SC Renew Deal Feb 2016 #10
He was in Greenville SC on Sunday peacebird Feb 2016 #19
Obama campaigned in Michigan and Florida? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #2
Actually he did even though there were no delegates. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #11
where does it say he abandoned SC ? JI7 Feb 2016 #3
He hasn't, this seems like another "drive by smear attack" peacebird Feb 2016 #5
I said it Renew Deal Feb 2016 #12
He has 100 paid staffers in the state HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #4
He's campaigning elsewhere at least 3 days in a row Renew Deal Feb 2016 #13
Just another lie from the Clintons left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #6
The schedule speaks for itself Renew Deal Feb 2016 #14
A lot of those town halls Obama went to got significant media coverage - on CNN live Jarqui Feb 2016 #7
Earth calling, "Come back to us!" TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #8
He was just in Greenville, SC stage left Feb 2016 #9
And he has since moved on Renew Deal Feb 2016 #15
So what? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #16
He has abandoned the state Renew Deal Feb 2016 #22
He's going to be there for the Democratic Town Hall Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #23
And then he leaves for Oklahoma Renew Deal Feb 2016 #24
And? stage left Feb 2016 #28
He will be there tomorrow for the Democratic Town Hall. Bernie speaks first, then Hillary. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #17
Maybe Hillary can hire the guy Ted Cruz just fired to make some robocalls about it. n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #18
I hear Josh Uretsky is available. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #32
Eeyore, Eeyore - quit pooping on the carpet! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #20
Not every campaign is the same. Vinca Feb 2016 #21
At this stage in 2008 Obama had 38 delegates and had considerably less donors. Kentonio Feb 2016 #29
Obama won SC by over 25%... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #31
Only one of those is a positive. Kentonio Feb 2016 #34
When it comes to a strong campaign... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #35
He's held his own against Hillary's money so far Kentonio Feb 2016 #36
I understand that and appreciate it... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #37
"Targeted Revolution" is the new preferred term nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #25
Hillary abandons honesty. panader0 Feb 2016 #26
Giving up on South Carolina is not a good sign Gothmog Feb 2016 #27
+1, I don't believe the dichotomy here; the marginalized are pulling away from the revolution leader uponit7771 Feb 2016 #30
Sanders is not abandoning South Carolina. Who started this? Arazi Feb 2016 #33

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. Just another lie from the Clintons
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:43 PM
Feb 2016

Like her comments on CNN yesterday that she's been consistent in her policies and beliefs for decades.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
7. A lot of those town halls Obama went to got significant media coverage - on CNN live
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

That's not the case with Bernie.

He has to get recognized in those Super Tuesday states. when he does, he climbs the polls. And that was always, always the hard part. It was one thing to spend a lot of time in the first four primary states to make respectable showings in three of them. He really needed a win in Nevada to help boost himself in the polls of these other states. Many in the media will be saying "Hillary's got it" and then turnout is low ... and he loses.

After today, he has 7 campaign days to hit these 10 states:
Alabama
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Virginia

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. So what?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders was just in the state not two days ago. He's got 100 paid staffers there. He doesn't need to spend every waking hour there, when Super Tuesday is coming up in a week.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
28. And?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

His staffers and volunteers are here, working to get out the vote. We are Bernie.It's WE with this campaign, not I.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
21. Not every campaign is the same.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 08:41 AM
Feb 2016

You can't compare Obama to any candidate before or after. Hillary is popular, but she's no Obama. Bernie is popular, but he's no Obama. The Sanders' campaign appears to be deciding where they should put their efforts to get the most delegates. I don't know why the AA community favors Hillary over the guy who was arrested over civil rights, but they apparently do. If you want to win an election in order to eventually convince AA why they might benefit from free public college, single-payer healthcare and a higher minimum wage, you have to get delegates where people are currently supporting you. I fear, once again, we'll be remembering what might have been as Hillary gets the nomination and nose dives back to the right.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
29. At this stage in 2008 Obama had 38 delegates and had considerably less donors.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure how Sanders is doing any worse in any quantifiable way.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
35. When it comes to a strong campaign...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

...both of those are positives. I hate Wall Street's influence, but it funds the vast majority of the campaigns we see on a national level. So when you say Bernie has more donors, that sounds great until you realize Obama had a ton of mega money being pumped in by a smaller number of people.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
37. I understand that and appreciate it...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders has the deck stacked completely against him and the campaign is doing a hell of a job considering this fact. He's about to lose by 20+ in South Carolina and a number of other states in the next couple weeks. Just have to see if the citizens out there will keep giving $20-30 or will become disheartened by the early election results.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
30. +1, I don't believe the dichotomy here; the marginalized are pulling away from the revolution leader
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016

... for some reason and endearing themselves to the Sanders proclaimed "establishment" for a reason and it isn't because they don' know him.

Sander lost PoC by 25% in IA... after spending 3 months there... his numbers are getting worse

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