2016 Postmortem

greymouse

(872 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:19 PM Feb 2016

Shame on SEIU. More lying for Hillary.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/hillary-clinton-service-employees-international-union-219541

"Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour."

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Shame on SEIU. More lying for Hillary. (Original Post) greymouse Feb 2016 OP

Another group thrown under the Bernie bus Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #1

Another group caught LYING for Hillary. Something it appears you approve of. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #4

The SEIU is a strong progressive group Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #14

I am a member of 1199 SEIU. Karma13612 Feb 2016 #15

And thats how you shut someone up. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #23

It is my friggen union and you bet I don't support them when they support a liar. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #19

they count, all right greymouse Feb 2016 #20

"Apparently the leadership is as corrupt as Hillary." NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #27

lie down with a dog, get up with fleas. greymouse Feb 2016 #32

so is outright lying OK? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #30

Yeah, because that's what the OP is doing. Broward Feb 2016 #6

I have learned that Hillary's fans don't care about lying by or for hillary cali Feb 2016 #12

"There you go again." dchill Feb 2016 #26

SEIU sold out the true union spirit, corrupted by $$$ kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #2

Don't I know it. 1199SEIU member here. Eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #16

One of the nation's largest unions.....now tossed under the bus Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #3

Do you approve of LYING for Hillary? Live and Learn Feb 2016 #5

Apparently they do approve. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #8

Of course they do. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #9

Other way around. SEIU BOSSES threw membership under the bus. Eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #17

I cant believe this shit! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #22

Aye, but the opposition requires a double decker bus for their discards ... ebayfool Feb 2016 #24

hillary can only get ahead through lies, corruption and smears amborin Feb 2016 #7

And SEIU's NV state director compounded that lie by lieing even more. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #10

She supports 12 at the federal level - but 15 where it can go through and be supported state/loc. nt Lucinda Feb 2016 #11

Not good enough, Hillary. cali Feb 2016 #13

You are so right. Eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #18

MORE anti-union HATE from Sanders supporters! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #21

Hyperbole much? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #25

Did you READ the comments of SEIU members above?! Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #28

Clinton supports $12/hr in Podunck America, adjusted upwards for higher cost areas. Hoyt Feb 2016 #29

so she wants that on day one Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #31

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,031 posts)

1. Another group thrown under the Bernie bus

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:21 PM

Feb 2016

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)

4. Another group caught LYING for Hillary. Something it appears you approve of. nt

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:22 PM

Feb 2016

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,031 posts)

14. The SEIU is a strong progressive group

Reply to Live and Learn (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:07 PM

Feb 2016

They have been for quite a while. But since they don't support your candidate I guess they don't count.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)

15. I am a member of 1199 SEIU.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:35 PM

Feb 2016

Not only do I support Bernie, so does my union rep.

Pitiful how the management shoved HRC down our throats without a full membership vote.

I pay dues and had no say in their endorsement.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)

23. And thats how you shut someone up.

Reply to Karma13612 (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:20 AM

Feb 2016

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)

19. It is my friggen union and you bet I don't support them when they support a liar. nt

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

Feb 2016

greymouse

(872 posts)

20. they count, all right

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:53 AM

Feb 2016

They did used to be a strong progressive group, now apparently the leadership is as corrupt as Hillary. But lying is okay with you, apparently. I guess that's why you support Hillary, because lying's her major skill.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)

27. "Apparently the leadership is as corrupt as Hillary."

Reply to greymouse (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:46 AM

Feb 2016

Of course they are - just as every single one of HRC's supporters/endorsers are declared "corrupt" the minute they stand up for her.

greymouse

(872 posts)

32. lie down with a dog, get up with fleas.

Reply to NanceGreggs (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 08:04 AM

Feb 2016

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

30. so is outright lying OK?

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:35 AM

Feb 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)

6. Yeah, because that's what the OP is doing.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:23 PM

Feb 2016

You ok with the deception?

cali

(114,904 posts)

12. I have learned that Hillary's fans don't care about lying by or for hillary

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:30 PM

Feb 2016

dchill

(38,503 posts)

26. "There you go again."

Reply to cali (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:42 AM

Feb 2016

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)

2. SEIU sold out the true union spirit, corrupted by $$$

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:22 PM

Feb 2016

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)

16. Don't I know it. 1199SEIU member here. Eom

Reply to kgnu_fan (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:36 PM

Feb 2016

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

3. One of the nation's largest unions.....now tossed under the bus

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:22 PM

Feb 2016

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)

5. Do you approve of LYING for Hillary?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:23 PM

Feb 2016

That might be a silly question.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)

8. Apparently they do approve.

Reply to Live and Learn (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:05 PM

Feb 2016

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

9. Of course they do.

Reply to Live and Learn (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:18 PM

Feb 2016

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)

17. Other way around. SEIU BOSSES threw membership under the bus. Eom

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:38 PM

Feb 2016

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

22. I cant believe this shit!

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:58 AM

Feb 2016

This is the most outrageous REPUBLICAN BS!

Right out of the koch bros playbook!

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)

24. Aye, but the opposition requires a double decker bus for their discards ...

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:24 AM

Feb 2016

This 'under the bus' shit is pretty played out. Especially when it's used solely to irritate and provoke.
Come on, folks ... use your words!

amborin

(16,631 posts)

7. hillary can only get ahead through lies, corruption and smears

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:34 PM

Feb 2016

this needs wide publicity

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)

10. And SEIU's NV state director compounded that lie by lieing even more.

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:25 PM

Feb 2016

(From the linked article in the OP)

“Hillary Clinton was the first candidate who came and met with workers and said she supported our movement,”

Sanders support for the Fight for $15 campaign goes back to at least 2014 (http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-restaurants-protests-idUSL1N0R42AH20140904) and he actually rallied with SEIU in DC.

(TRNS) — Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) joined several U.S. federal workers to support raising the minimum wage and maintaining union rights at a “Fight for $15 and a Union” rally on Tuesday in Washington, D.C., the nation’s largest strike ever powered by fast food workers in hundreds of cities.

http://www.talkradionews.com/congress/senate/2015/11/10/bernie-sanders-rallies-for-15-minimum-wage.html

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)

11. She supports 12 at the federal level - but 15 where it can go through and be supported state/loc. nt

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:27 PM

Feb 2016

cali

(114,904 posts)

13. Not good enough, Hillary.

Reply to Lucinda (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:31 PM

Feb 2016

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)

18. You are so right. Eom

Reply to cali (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:39 PM

Feb 2016

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

21. MORE anti-union HATE from Sanders supporters!

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:56 AM

Feb 2016

The whole union movement needs to be aware of these attacks against working men and women!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)

25. Hyperbole much?

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:30 AM

Feb 2016

Sanders supporters aren't attacking working men and women, for crying out loud!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)

28. Did you READ the comments of SEIU members above?!

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:55 AM

Feb 2016

The union leaders sold out the members--acted unilaterally without consulting the membership!

Christ, your comment is as thick as some RW Bible-thumper railing against evolution!

READ. WHAT. THEY. SAID.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

29. Clinton supports $12/hr in Podunck America, adjusted upwards for higher cost areas.

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:25 AM

Feb 2016

It might be more than $15/hr in some areas. Sanders' "$15/hr" wouldn't kick in until 2020 -- assuming he could get it enacted. I don't think his staff has quite figured out how much the cost of living differs across America.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

31. so she wants that on day one

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:38 AM

Feb 2016

No phase in? Sghe will have an easier time with congress than bernie?

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