2016 Postmortem

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:47 PM Feb 2016

As Bernie Gains On Clinton, New Poll Suggests Voters Open To Socialism

Democrats Ready For Socialism? With Bernie Sanders Gaining On Clinton, New Poll Suggests Voters Open To It
BY CLARK MINDOCK @CLARKMINDOCK ON 02/22/16

http://www.ibtimes.com/democrats-ready-socialism-bernie-sanders-gaining-clinton-new-poll-suggests-voters-2317267

A new poll may answer the question that has been on the minds of many pundits since Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders announced his run for the president: Can a self-described socialist really rally enough support to win a United States election?

...Roughly six in 10 Democratic voters say they have favorable views toward socialism, according to the poll, which was conducted by a right-leaning issue advocacy group. The sentiment was shared among Democratic voters regardless of age, gender and race, Politico reports.

American Action Network reportedly took precautions to ensure that the poll wasn’t only reflective of the 2016 Democratic primary race, however. Neither Sanders nor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were mentioned by name when the surveys were conducted. Instead, the group, which is funded by a super PAC that supports House Republicans, asked questions based upon a television interview with Democratic Party chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz in which she was pressed to define the difference between a Democrat and a socialist.

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Clinton has long held a healthy lead over Sanders in national polls but Sanders has recently been catching up fast. She leads him by just 5.6 percent of the average, 47.6 percent to 52 percent. (And many polls show they are "virtually tied -- NB).

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As Bernie Gains On Clinton, New Poll Suggests Voters Open To Socialism (Original Post) nashville_brook Feb 2016 OP

gIVE mE A bREAK dburner3 Feb 2016 #1

What do you mean? cyberswede Feb 2016 #3

Which limb? DJ13 Feb 2016 #5

Would you care to elaborate, newcomer? nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #17

kick kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #2

wall street versus the people, that's what this nomination is about amborin Feb 2016 #4

notice how Sanders' polling is skyrocketing. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #6

these are NOT the polling numbers of someone whose movement will be MisterP Feb 2016 #7

Hillary isn't declining at all. Yuugal Feb 2016 #8

it's a "small numbers" strategy to go with her "small audiences" strategy MisterP Feb 2016 #9

This is no change. In polls going back 10+ years 60% of Dems said the same thing stevenleser Feb 2016 #10

If Sanders is continuing to gain on Clinton... brooklynite Feb 2016 #11

Blue States Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #15

Not a prayer in NY... brooklynite Feb 2016 #16

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #12

How did the question define socialism? That makes all the difference. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #13

K&R Paka Feb 2016 #14

Well the Fascism hasn't been working for most so..... Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #18

Red baiting isn't as effective as it used to be. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #19

I don't think Socialism is the Sanders attraction so much as his pro-gun, anti-immigration, ucrdem Feb 2016 #20

dburner3

(8 posts)

1. gIVE mE A bREAK

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:50 PM

Feb 2016

Give ME A BREAK.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)

3. What do you mean?

Reply to dburner3 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:52 PM

Feb 2016

People actually like social democracy, even if they don't realize that's what it's called.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)

5. Which limb?

Reply to dburner3 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:01 PM

Feb 2016

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

17. Would you care to elaborate, newcomer? nt

Reply to dburner3 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:24 PM

Feb 2016

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)

2. kick

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:51 PM

Feb 2016

amborin

(16,631 posts)

4. wall street versus the people, that's what this nomination is about

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:53 PM

Feb 2016

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)

6. notice how Sanders' polling is skyrocketing.

Reply to amborin (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:07 PM

Feb 2016

MisterP

(23,730 posts)

7. these are NOT the polling numbers of someone whose movement will be

Reply to nashville_brook (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:31 PM

Feb 2016

ended by a few more state losses

after a few more ugly incidents and crude appeals to humanity's baser side, after more disgusting revelations, after the FBI indictment, after her sense of inevitability is broken, people are gonna start asking why Sanders is supposedly "behind" in all the states when the trendlines have already crossed nationwide

Yuugal

(2,281 posts)

8. Hillary isn't declining at all.

Reply to MisterP (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:42 PM

Feb 2016

Her appeal is just becoming more selective.....

MisterP

(23,730 posts)

9. it's a "small numbers" strategy to go with her "small audiences" strategy

Reply to Yuugal (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:43 PM

Feb 2016

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

10. This is no change. In polls going back 10+ years 60% of Dems said the same thing

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:44 PM

Feb 2016

The problem is, it's overwhelmingly the other way for independents, non party id folks and of course even worse for Republicans.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)

11. If Sanders is continuing to gain on Clinton...

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:48 PM

Feb 2016

...and since the Primary is State by State, rather than a national vote...

...tell us which States Sanders will win that will get us the delegates he needs?

Roy Ellefson

(279 posts)

15. Blue States

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:21 PM

Feb 2016

he has a shot at all the blue states...he can win Mass, CT, WI, MN, NY, Cal etc. etc. the nominee should and can't be decided by states that will never vote for the Democrat...he's still in it.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)

16. Not a prayer in NY...

Reply to Roy Ellefson (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:23 PM

Feb 2016

...and CA is too large and too non-white for his campaign model.

And I note you left out huge battleground States like PA, OH, MI, FL, VA.....

WillyT

(72,631 posts)

12. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:50 PM

Feb 2016

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)

13. How did the question define socialism? That makes all the difference.

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:53 PM

Feb 2016

The article doesn't provide that.

Paka

(2,760 posts)

14. K&R

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:32 PM

Feb 2016

GO BERNIE!

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)

18. Well the Fascism hasn't been working for most so.....

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:24 PM

Feb 2016

yea

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

19. Red baiting isn't as effective as it used to be.

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:28 PM

Feb 2016

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

20. I don't think Socialism is the Sanders attraction so much as his pro-gun, anti-immigration,

Reply to nashville_brook (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:41 PM

Feb 2016

anti-trade and generally anti-Democratic sentiments including blistering criticism of Barack and (usually by innuendo) Hillary. Add to that the fact that for all intents and purposes there's nothing particularlarly s/Socialist about him. He's basically an old-school New England Republican which today sorts out to Independent (his actual status) and L/libertarian. In 24 years I've never heard him actually talk about European or US socialism in any informed way..

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