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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton and Honduras - Experience in Foreign Policy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/22/1488999/-Honduran-Fascism-and-the-Clinton-Connection?detail=hideWith all the recent talk about immigration and unaccompanied minors, and even more recent talk about how Bernie is not who he says he is, I think it would be prudent to closely examine both talking points by asking two apposite questions: why are immigrants, particularly women and children, fleeing Honduras in very high numbers? And is Hillary who she says she is? I believe the answer to the first question manifests an obvious answer to the second question.
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The AP headlined from Tegucigalpa the next day, World Leaders Pressure Honduras to Reverse Coup, and reported: Leaders from Hugo Chavez to Barack Obama called for reinstatement of Manuel Zelaya, who was arrested in his pajamas Sunday morning by soldiers who stormed his residence and flew him into exile.
Secretary Clinton, in the press conference the day after the coup, Remarks at the Top of the Daily Press Briefing, refused to commit the United States to restoration of the democratically elected President of Honduras. She refused even to commit the U.S. to using the enormous leverage it had over the Honduran Government to bring that about.
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Why was our Secretary of State silent, even now?
It certainly couldnt have been so on account of her agent on the ground in Honduras, the U.S. Ambassador to that country: he was anything but noncommittal. He was fully American, not at all neutral or pro-fascist.
Here was his cable from the U.S. Embassy, reviewing the situation, for Washington, after almost a months silence from the Administration:
From: Ambassador Hugo Llorens, U.S. Embassy, Tegucigalpa, Honduras, 24 July 2009.
To: Secretary of State, White House, and National Security Council.
SUBJECT: TFHO1: OPEN AND SHUT: THE CASE OF THE HONDURAN COUP
This lengthy message from the Ambassador closed:
The actions of June 28 can only be considered a coup detat by the legislative branch, with the support of the judicial branch and the military, against the executive branch. It bears mentioning that, whereas the resolution adopted June 28 refers only to Zelaya, its effect was to remove the entire executive branch. Both of these actions clearly exceeded Congresss authority. No matter what the merits of the case against Zelaya, his forced removal by the military was clearly illegal, and [puppett-leader Roberto] Michelettis ascendance as interim president was totally illegitimate.
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This is why Bernie talks about judgment rather than experience. Another Kissinger moment.
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Hillary Clinton and Honduras - Experience in Foreign Policy (Original Post)
EndElectoral
Feb 2016
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merrily
(45,251 posts)1. Judgment and experience. He's been in Congress since 1990. That ain't nutthin.
amborin
(16,631 posts)2. all of her foreign policy decisions are abysmal
And let's not forget Lanny Davis. Of course, if the Clinton Regime takes over again, he'll be around...somewhere.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)4. Her foreign policy judgment can give a person nightmares. n/t
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)5. Five children murdered after deported back to Honduras.
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)6. Clinton's "message" board
It's worse than a #%@$ wall for those families.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)7. Don't forget she stabled Obama in the back.
He came out in favor of Zelaya.