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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:35 PM Feb 2016

Harry Reid Rushed Home to Nevada to Help Rig Caucus Results for Clinton


“Harry Reid clearly wants Hillary Clinton to be the next president,” began a Politico article published a few days before the Nevada caucuses, citing the reason Mr. Reid did not endorse a presidential candidate is that he wants to help bolster the odds of his chosen successor, former state attorney general Catherine Cortez Masto, winning his Senate seat in November when Mr. Reid is retires. One could also argue Mr. Reid refused to formally endorse a candidate in order to influence the caucuses under the guise of neutrality, which would not have otherwise been afforded to him had he not remained publicly impartial.

A week before the Nevada caucuses, as new polls showed Senator Bernie Sanders’ support in the state surging, Mr. Reid made a call to the head of Nevada’s most powerful union—the Culinary Workers Union in Las Vegas, which did not plan on engaging in the caucuses—and influenced the union’s decision to participate. Mr. Reid also made calls to casino executives along the Las Vegas strip to ensure casino workers were given time off to join the caucuses on the strip, which was predicted to be Ms. Clinton’s stronghold in the state. Mr. Reid’s gamble paid off, with all six casino caucuses favoring Ms. Clinton over Mr. Sanders by 109 to 52.


So you PRETEND to be neutral, but.... not really.. heh, heh, heh...
Way to cement your reputation for the ages........Harry.



http://observer.com/2016/02/harry-reid-rushed-home-to-nevada-to-help-rig-caucus-results-for-clinton/
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Harry Reid Rushed Home to Nevada to Help Rig Caucus Results for Clinton (Original Post) pangaia Feb 2016 OP
Harry is a Democrat. it it part of his job to GOTV. leftofcool Feb 2016 #1
How dare Democrats stick together Dem2 Feb 2016 #5
But he didn't stick with a Dem. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #58
for one side only... dana_b Feb 2016 #9
They could caucus for whoever they wanted n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #31
If Bernie wants to take advantage of Democratic Party infrastructure, LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #35
Yeah, all those years caucusing with the Democratic side of the aisle was meaningless Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #51
He shouldn't have pressured the Culinary Union. w4rma Feb 2016 #10
Harry Has Always Been Of Questionable ( Fill in Blank)! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #26
Yeah they're all a bunch of spineless worms that do their massa's bidding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #52
It's kind of sad Andy823 Feb 2016 #44
Harry is a Mormon, it's part of his job to elect conservatives. n/t Umbral18 Feb 2016 #67
Sickening Politicalboi Feb 2016 #2
Unrec. Agschmid Feb 2016 #39
A democrat helps another democrat workinclasszero Feb 2016 #3
It's the at the expense of another Democrat part that I take issue with. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2016 #48
Where was the DNC when O'Malley was getting shafted? NWCorona Feb 2016 #59
Well, one time he didn't keep his powder dry. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #66
Harry Reid encouraged Businesses to let their employees take advantage of their right to vote... brooklynite Feb 2016 #4
Uh,, you forgot the rest of the story. pangaia Feb 2016 #65
Harry Reid under the BernieBros bus itsrobert Feb 2016 #6
Bernies gonna need a bigger bus! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #8
With bigger wheels and more clearance Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #53
That's about right, seems like workinclasszero Feb 2016 #56
It's a borrowed bus, too. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #36
another establishment hack. no surprise. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7
you folks can't even admit when you've lost bigtree Feb 2016 #11
HUH??? pangaia Feb 2016 #12
feined surprise bigtree Feb 2016 #13
He didn't control their choices. Control-Z Feb 2016 #14
Baloney! The UNION Bosses, Watched And Made CERTAIN That "Their" People Voted The Way They Were... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #28
That's exactly what happened. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #46
Baloney X 1000 for sure agracie Feb 2016 #62
Too bad Harry didn't fight Republicans in Congress that hard. Just think what might've been ... ebayfool Feb 2016 #15
Do you think Harry Control-Z Feb 2016 #17
Why didn't he make phone calls for the rest of the state? (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #18
Lol Control-Z Feb 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #21
Reno is a ghost town? (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #24
Actually Bernie Won Reno Area.... Grassy Knoll Feb 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #34
Welcome..... Grassy Knoll Feb 2016 #37
All that government owned land that no one lives on? Agschmid Feb 2016 #27
Like Wasserman, he put his thumb on the scale. ebayfool Feb 2016 #40
Wooooo Hoooo Grassy Knoll Feb 2016 #16
Obama, Reid. Who is next. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #19
Harry has a long history of rigging stuff in Nevada nichomachus Feb 2016 #23
AGREED! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #30
Casino Octafish Feb 2016 #25
oh for goodness sake... chillfactor Feb 2016 #29
I agree Andy823 Feb 2016 #43
Reid did his job and he supported the establishment candidate. What the heck did you expect? napi21 Feb 2016 #33
The Revolution resents Democratic Solidarity. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #38
I think that's because Andy823 Feb 2016 #45
Lifelong dem timmymoff Feb 2016 #60
incorrect we love solidarity timmymoff Feb 2016 #55
She would have even less of a chance without their thumbs on the scale. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #41
Democratic thumbs on a Democratic scale. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #61
Typical DNC democrat PFunk1 Feb 2016 #42
Yeah I thought it was weird. Nyan Feb 2016 #47
With the help of the Illuminati, Jimmy Hoffa, and the Smoking Man from the X-Files? Tarc Feb 2016 #49
Let's not forget the trilateral commision and the Kiebler elves Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #54
Reid went to NV to put the unicorns back into the illuminate fish bowl :rolleyes: uponit7771 Feb 2016 #50
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Lordquinton Feb 2016 #57
Wow - so touchy, so sensitive, so insulted by others' opinions nc4bo Feb 2016 #68
Anytime Bernie loses it's some kind of conspiracy redstateblues Feb 2016 #63
The Observer makes up a stupid story once again and so many jump on it and think it is real. riversedge Feb 2016 #64

LuvLoogie

(7,020 posts)
35. If Bernie wants to take advantage of Democratic Party infrastructure,
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:50 PM
Feb 2016

maybe he becomes a Democrat before April 2015...?

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
51. Yeah, all those years caucusing with the Democratic side of the aisle was meaningless
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:29 AM
Feb 2016

to Hillary supporters. She's a real Democrat.

This talking point is weak as hell.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
10. He shouldn't have pressured the Culinary Union.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

Allowing the casino workers to get off to vote is great though.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
26. Harry Has Always Been Of Questionable ( Fill in Blank)!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:38 PM
Feb 2016

Union Strong Arm tactics etc in an engineered chaos environment. yep Hillary won but not without considerable lapses in the rules... as it were by her compatriots! Yeah, harry is a great guy...

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
52. Yeah they're all a bunch of spineless worms that do their massa's bidding
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

Can you be anymore patronizing?

Why don't you show up to a union meeting sometime talking that kind of shit? See what kind of reaction you get.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
44. It's kind of sad
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:42 AM
Feb 2016

That so many hear see conspiracies all over the place. As has already been mentioned, making sure employers let their workers off to vote is really a pretty good thing if you ask me.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Sickening
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

And yet they still accept their "win" . What a bunch of losers. We need to get dirty and fast. So much dirt out there. Wouldn't be surprised if someone was or is having affairs still. I hate liars and cheaters.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
59. Where was the DNC when O'Malley was getting shafted?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:59 AM
Feb 2016

Oh yeah, they were the ones doing it. I don't blame Harry for doing what he did other than going against his word but don't act like he was doing it for a fellow Dem. He did it for Clinton.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
4. Harry Reid encouraged Businesses to let their employees take advantage of their right to vote...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

J'ACCUSE!

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
11. you folks can't even admit when you've lost
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

...it can't be because you were out-organized and out-voted, you have to resort to this epic pout. It just adds to your delusion that there's something supremely ordained about your candidate's campaign.

Bad sports.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
14. He didn't control their choices.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:10 PM
Feb 2016

He gave more people a chance to join the caucus. How is that undemocratic or rigged? Republicans are known for blocking voters. Dems try to get more voters. That's what Harry did.

Do you not understand how voting works?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
28. Baloney! The UNION Bosses, Watched And Made CERTAIN That "Their" People Voted The Way They Were...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:41 PM
Feb 2016

"Instructed" to vote... No SECRET Ballot... Everybody got to see what you did... Get Outa line you just might lose your job... ya think?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
46. That's exactly what happened.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:56 AM
Feb 2016

Union bosses making sure the members didn't step out of line. But overall that was just a small portion of the vote rigging. The whole operation was much more fraudulant than the Iowa caucus.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
15. Too bad Harry didn't fight Republicans in Congress that hard. Just think what might've been ...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:13 PM
Feb 2016

accomplished! Instead he saves it to use on the Party.

Response to w4rma (Reply #18)

Response to w4rma (Reply #22)

Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #32)

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
37. Welcome.....
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

70% of Nevadans live in Vegas though, and they usually call the shots for the whole state.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
40. Like Wasserman, he put his thumb on the scale.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

"Do you think Harry told them how they had to vote?"


Really? You wanna go with that? Did I say that? No, I didn't.

But you go right on asking simple, silly questions with your bad self.


chillfactor

(7,580 posts)
29. oh for goodness sake...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:42 PM
Feb 2016

couldn't you come up with anything but just so much nonsense....Democrats should stick together unlike those on DU.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
43. I agree
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

Democrats should stick together, and real ones do here on DU. Sadly there are some here who are not real Democrats, they only come here to complain, and in some cases to disrupt the boards and divide posters.

For the life of me I can's understand why so many here are going for the "scorched earth" scenario here on DU when it comes to the "other" candidate.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
33. Reid did his job and he supported the establishment candidate. What the heck did you expect?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:43 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary was a Senator when he was the Senate Leader. I completely support Bernie, but I'm not so naïve that I would expect tge establishment to support each other. Get real!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
45. I think that's because
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

A lot of the people who "claim" to be part of the revolution are not really Democrats. I could be wrong though, but I don't think so.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
60. Lifelong dem
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:16 AM
Feb 2016

I have been a member of this party for a long time, but what does it mean anymore when we take from the same coffers the republicans do? What does it mean when the presumed front runner supported trade deals that are bad for workers? What does it mean when a candidate start negotiating for higher wages nationwide at the point in which things would improve but not get anything more? That is bad judgment, It's not being realistic because if that were the case a realistic negotiator wouldn't lead in with the bottom dollar amount. What does it mean to be a democrat of this standard? I'm sure you all have similar beliefs but why the disconnect? Democrats need to differentiate themselves from republicans, but they rarely do on economic issues. Selling out to the business class and management while already throwing in the towel is a fight I don't think any of us truly want. I do not want to fight to start negotiating at $12 and hour, I consider that fighting from a position of weakness. I do not want to fight in hopes a candidate doesn't return to their original view of TPP after they win. Or keystone. Or private prison lobbies. I did not like being called a tea party member. I am not a person who started a PUMA movement in 2008. I am not a person who has forgot at one time one income was enough to feed your family. If you want to vote for whatever table scraps big business throws us that is your choice, but do not expect me to join ranks of that mission. I will cast votes of approval for democrats in November, but I do not want to start the damn fight with wet powder. Hillary is wet powder. She sets our principles at such a low achievable goal that it is really just lip service. That is the problem.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
55. incorrect we love solidarity
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

It is actually the Clinton campaign that opposes solidarity. Was it a move towards solidarity when Bill Clinton called a voting block as large as the Sanders supporters "the tea party of the left"? Was it solidarity when Madeline Albright tried to condemn women to hell? I am going to speak for myself and myself only, but if you do not want the support of Bernie Sanders supporters please just say so. I will gladly step away from the process instead of allowing you to continually insult me. I find a candidate suspicious at best that has been on both sides of nearly every issue. I find a candidate suspicious when they berate republicans for "being in the tank" for taking money from large corporations, wall st. , big pharma, private prisons etc . and suddenly they are miraculously changed. I find it suspicious that you can be for NAFTA, TPP, keystone, private prison lobbies but immediately make a switch as needed. You may think I am stupid, which is fine, but to sit here and say Hillary isn't "in the bag" just like republicans for taking the exact same money is well, naive. If you want to only win the game then continue this strategy of insulting a growing voting block, if you want to win the season, well to be honest I think you already lost that ability. I will canvass, call, and donate to Bernie, if he is not nominated, I will only vote. It will be for democrats. More than likely though, only the ones who haven't used surrogates to insult me. Only the ones who haven't spread lies to tarnish both the character of a long time ally, and the supporters of Bernie Sanders. I am just hoping you haven't already earned your loss in the general, if you can even win the democratic nomination. I will fight for Bernie until then. I am sure he will endorse your favorite. We are a rebellious lot though. Good Luck winning new voters with that exceptionally brilliant strategy.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
42. Typical DNC democrat
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:34 AM
Feb 2016

More effective at hampering the liberal wing of their party than at actual repugs. And you wonder why the party's not uniting.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
47. Yeah I thought it was weird.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

Polling data the day before the caucus had Bernie winning by 2%, which is why I thought the results are gonna be similar to IW; 7% gap from that data was suspicious.

Lordquinton

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nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
68. Wow - so touchy, so sensitive, so insulted by others' opinions
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

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Good Gawd people!

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
63. Anytime Bernie loses it's some kind of conspiracy
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

Just like any of us regular Hillary supporters are mindless zombies, corporatists, third wayers etc. how about holding Bernies campaign accountable? Hillary is running a better smarter campaign so far.

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