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Predictwise -HRC 89% to win nomination/57% to win presidency (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 OP
Lol. She is ballot box poison cali Feb 2016 #1
You look like you can use a DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #2
Hi panader0 Feb 2016 #12
I will just defer to the peer reviwed research DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #20
I actually think she could beat Trump. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #3
Please see Post 2 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #4
Post 2 is devoid of value to me. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #6
Why? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #7
I don't like the human touch. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #8
Feral children grow up to be like that./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #9
ok. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #10
"Feral children"? panader0 Feb 2016 #14
The gentleman said he doesn't like human touch, DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #16
That makes him "feral"? panader0 Feb 2016 #18
You need to stop telling me what to do, am I right? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #22
If she gets the nomination, i sure hope you're right about that 2nd number. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #5
Predictwise? First time i've ever heard of this site iloveObama12 Feb 2016 #11
If this guesstimates correctly, I weep for our country. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #13
Lots of unnecessary histrionics workinclasszero Feb 2016 #15
Hey zero--read the map I posted. panader0 Feb 2016 #17
But thats today right? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #19
Please see Post 20 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #21
They'll adapt. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #31
Here is the thing workinclasszero Feb 2016 #23
I applaud you on the 100% correctness of your post. oasis Feb 2016 #24
I believe the average voter workinclasszero Feb 2016 #25
SCOTUS, I believe, will be the make or break issue. Dems have to oasis Feb 2016 #27
For sure workinclasszero Feb 2016 #29
Thanks workinclasszero Feb 2016 #26
Rubio is their only shot. joshcryer Feb 2016 #32
Nate Silver says: www.ciafront.com Feb 2016 #28
Thanks for the update, I like the odds, we still have work to do. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #30
I see the markets correctly deem Rubio their only shot at winning. joshcryer Feb 2016 #33
Kick and recommend oasis Feb 2016 #34
Okay, predictions are based on comparisons with what has occurred before, right? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #35
It's been an incredible year TSIAS Feb 2016 #36
Ha ha too true, we were lucky with Sarah Palin too! flamingdem Feb 2016 #37
Fact free pdsimdars Feb 2016 #46
Well vadermike Feb 2016 #38
Thanks for posting Gothmog Feb 2016 #39
Wow this should change big time workinclasszero Feb 2016 #40
K & R :-) Alfresco Feb 2016 #41
Clinton is up to 90% Gothmog Feb 2016 #42
That 57% is going to drop like a rock. Skwmom Feb 2016 #43
Shouldn't their name be HopeWise? pdsimdars Feb 2016 #44
Respectfully, your logic is flawed DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #45
Awesome news!! So glad Trump is doing well on the con side. Makes it even easier for Hillary to be beaglelover Feb 2016 #47
n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #48

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. I will just defer to the peer reviwed research
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

The peer reviewed research suggests asking voters who they think will win is the best predictor of electoral success, ergo:



Simple surveys that ask people who they expect to win are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf
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Studies of prediction market accuracy for election forecasting commonly compare the
daily market forecasts to results from polls published the same day. These studies generally find
that prediction markets yield more accurate forecasts than single polls.

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf


Hillary Clinton is a 10/11 favorite at the offshore betting sites and the VT senator is a 7-1 underdog


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner


If you bet on Hillary you have to put up $1,100 to win $1,000.00

If you bet on Bernie you have to put up $145.00 to win $1,000.00.



The efficacy of polls nine months out in predicting a general election winner is essentially null:



Trial-heat polls, hereafter simply referred to as polls, ask respondents for whom they
intend to vote if the election were held today. That is, polls do not provide predictions; they
provide snapshots of public opinion at a certain point in time. However, this is not how the
media commonly treat polls. Polling results are routinely interpreted as forecasts of what will
happen on Election Day (Hillygus 2011). This can result in poor predictions, in particular if the
election is still far away, because public opinion can be difficult to measure and fragile over the
course of a campaign. However, researchers found ways to deal with these problems and to
increase the accuracy of poll-based predictions

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf





DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. The gentleman said he doesn't like human touch,
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:10 AM
Feb 2016
I don't like the human touch.

cannot stand hugs.



Sociological studies suggest that children who were deprived of touch as children are harmed and that harm continues to manifest itself all through life.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. If she gets the nomination, i sure hope you're right about that 2nd number.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

I remain skeptical, and that is even without any more shoes dropping from the FBI, etc.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. Hey zero--read the map I posted.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:10 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie does MUCH better in the GE than Hillary. That's the real grip.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. Here is the thing
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:33 AM
Feb 2016

The teahaddists are only speaking to their true believers right now. Not the general public.

Lots of voters have no idea how radical Trump and Cruz for instance really are.

When the general starts Trump is going to have to explain to the general public his terrible racist plans to round up Hispanic folks, build a giant billion dollar wall and somehow deport 8 million or so people.

Cruz will have to explain to the general public why God almighty himself anointed him to be president and set up a theocracy in America. Also he will have to explain why he is even eligible to run for president seeing as how he was born in a foreign country.

And thats just the tip of the iceberg with these lunatics.

The public is going to react in horror to these fools and run to Hillary or Bernie if he gets the nod, to save us from these republican monsters.

IMO of course.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. I believe the average voter
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:42 AM
Feb 2016

Has no idea how radical the republicans are at this time.
And the tea party loons will not let Trump or Cruz back off the insanity in the GE.

It's going to be an interesting race and God help us if the democrats don't win it.

oasis

(49,398 posts)
27. SCOTUS, I believe, will be the make or break issue. Dems have to
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:47 AM
Feb 2016

put together a kick ass public relations campaign.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
32. Rubio is their only shot.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

And it's a meager shot at that.

Trump is the disaster that will kill the Republican party for a generation.

www.ciafront.com

(13 posts)
28. Nate Silver says:
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:48 AM
Feb 2016

“While Clinton has won the first two caucuses in the Democratic race — while losing New Hampshire, the only primary — it’s possible that Bernie Sanders will win every state caucus from here on out.

Here’s why I say that. The remaining Democratic states to hold caucuses are: Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, Washington and Wyoming. Other than Hawaii — where I’m not going to pretend we have any earthly idea what’s going to happen — those are a bunch of really white states that otherwise look favorable for Sanders and which he could win even if he slightly trails Clinton nationally.” ~Nate Silver

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
33. I see the markets correctly deem Rubio their only shot at winning.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:07 AM
Feb 2016

It's disappointing to see that Trump and he are tied, but prediction markets are extremely bad this far out, they only get better closer to the election, 3 months out they'll get more accurate.

My guess is that the votes split two ways between Rubio and Cruz, with Trump gaining the lions share the whole way. He's going to walk into the nomination and the Republican party is going to be at a loss for words. Attempting to broker the thing will result almost certainly in a Trump third party run.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
35. Okay, predictions are based on comparisons with what has occurred before, right?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:13 AM
Feb 2016

How do you predict THIS election cycle? Were PPP and others prepared for Trump? or Sanders? Did anyone see this coming when the common wisdom maintained Hillary and Jeb were the shoe-ins for the nominations?

I think not. That is why I take Silver and the others with a grain of salt. If major league baseball changed the rules in 2017 so each team had eleven players in their batting order, how would the sportscasters predict what the winner of the World Series would be?

Ditto, this election.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
36. It's been an incredible year
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton will probably win the presidency. Trump simply has alienated too many groups of people.

If you put Clinton up against McCain of 2008 or Romney of 2012, she loses. But she's hit the lotto with this group of insane GOP candidates.

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
37. Ha ha too true, we were lucky with Sarah Palin too!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:19 AM
Feb 2016

They just can't win for losing, but then again there are downticket races we need to win too..

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
46. Fact free
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

Your statement is fact free. Just like climate change deniers, you base your statement that Hillary will win without any regard to actual data.
In polling for months now, Bernie wins against EVERY GOP candidate, but Hillary LOSES against every GOP candidate. In the latest Quinnipiac poll the only one she got more was Trump and it was 1 point higher. In that poll she ever lost to BUSH!
Whereas, as usual, Sanders beat all of them, beating Trump by 6 points.
So, if you're trying to make the "electability" argument, you might want to get out of the MSM/Hillary bubble and look at the facts.

vadermike

(1,416 posts)
38. Well
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:41 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary got lucky thankfully If it was against McCain Romney or Rubio she would lose IMO but against trump she hit the lotto

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
40. Wow this should change big time
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:37 AM
Feb 2016

after Hillary's huge win that's coming this Saturday in SC

99% to win possibly?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
44. Shouldn't their name be HopeWise?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

Or WhishfullThinking? Is it a right wing group? They got it backwards. Hillary will lose the general election if she is our candidate. They aren't very good at predicting.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
45. Respectfully, your logic is flawed
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016
PredictWise is a project that studies the collection of individual-level data for predictions, aggregation of that data into prediction, and usage of predictions. PredictWise focuses on public domains, such as: politics, sports, finance, and entertainment.

http://predictwise.com/faq/


Respectfully, your logic is flawed. If you believe a predictions market "is a right wing group" there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

BTW, predictwise assigns the Golden State Warriors the highest probability of winning the NBA championship:

http://predictwise.com/sports/


Is that a left wing or "right wing" prediction?

Thank you in advance.

beaglelover

(3,488 posts)
47. Awesome news!! So glad Trump is doing well on the con side. Makes it even easier for Hillary to be
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

our next POTUS!!! GO HILLARY!!!

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