All the Hillary supporters are managing to accomplish is to add to jill Stein's vote total.

..and I mean if they were serious or convincing enough. It is possible that some Dems and independents are so exasperated and marginalized by the Hillary Camp that they go for someone like Trump, who is more enlightened on some social issues. There are enough people in this country who think that both political parties are bought and paid for by the corporate interests, that they might just say "How much worse can it get?"

I'm not saying Trump isn't unsavory and a rotten person in so many ways. But Hillary's camp needs to remember that "it really is the economy" that "trumps" all other issues for most people.

Bernie and Hillary are not interchangeable, Hillary is not just a slightly less progressive option. Bernie is our best shot for a better future..

If she is, the millenial generation is lost to the Democratic Party.

They'll lose THE LEFT entirely.

The youth who re registered as Democrats to vote for Sanders will switch back to NPA if he's not nominated. Long term registered Dems on the left will hold their noses and vote for Hillary for party loyalty in some cases, or split and vote Third Party in others. There seems to be a growing movement for the latter.
After the election however, I think a good number will leave the party like a failed marriage. The party has moved so far right, it's nearly indistinguishable from republicans. The old left is nearly indistinguishable from the Greens. The gap between is huge and unsustainable.

There's still plenty of older 'pragmatic' liberals that will stick it out, but it won't be enough to win elections. If they think the 2014 midterm election was bad, it's only going to get worse here on out.

Obama had 69 million in '08 and 64 million in '12.

We may end up with not only a republican president, but republicans controlling both houses of congress.

...heads they win, tails we lose. What they are fearful of is a left populist being elected, like Bernie Sanders. That's why DNC is trying to knock him out.

and will lose a generation of young supporters who will see that the fix was in

against the women's movement, the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, the environmental movement….

"Everything is fine for me, what's your problem?!"

I see it all the time in my advocacy. Instead of asking how everything could be better for everyone, they secretly fear that what they have will disappear if they don't work to keep the status quo in place.

I think it's one of the reasons we haven't advanced more as a species. We're willing to let others suffer for our comfort.

...if you can't generate optimism in the face of reality, it's not our fault.

As I've often told one of your fellow teammates, you're doing my work for me.

...in other words, nobody of consequence. Welcome to the real world.

That's kind of a shame. I like to see the establishment supporters in our party spread the doom and gloom far and wide.

When you do, you're basically screaming: "We have no solutions! We have no great ideas or plans! We never have!"

If you want to be honest as a "realist" make that a damn platform.

"No hope. Nothing lasts. You will die. Sorry. Give up."

Realist, my skinny ass.

I guess that means I shouldn't count on getting a Christmas card from you this year.

some of the "realists" around here would have killed social security, women's suffrage and the Voting rights act. Did you not have many arguing that these were not practical?

I like this especially:
"A CNN Money report based on findings by UMass economics professor Gerald Friedman: stated that a Sanders presidency would raise median income by $22,000, create 26 million jobs and drop the unemployment rate to 3.8%. This should have been enough to convince the Sanders detractors to go easy. It wasn’t. Perhaps so ground down after years of being told to accept their crumbs while the wealth of the one percent suspiciously balloons, some continue to spread the message of the downtrodden to Sanders voters: just give up."

NOT gonna happen!! We are going to continue to fight for Bernie, ourselves AND for YOU whether you like it or not!

Sanders wants money out of politics and they don't want to lose their seats on the gravy train

to expanding the Democratic Party base. They are Rovian is their DELIGHT in low turnout. It's sick.

Control. They need to control the message, and they need to keep it to 2 parties to do that.

If they fail to win the election, they blame the Left for it. If they win, they say it's because they win the "center." Either way they keep the dark money and control of the message.

This time they miscalculated. They may wind up splitting the party 90/10 to the left, and a new party will form.

Its better than continuing to play along with the farce. Choosing the lesser evil, the empty (D) again, who is pragmatic & purple to work with republicans.

6 Signs That Show the New Hillary Is Still the Old Hillary
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/six-signs-show-new-hillary-still-old-hillary

How Hillary and Bill Clinton Raised $1.4 Billion
http://time.com/clinton-money/

Brings back so many memories from 2008.

It is hope.

No one is optimistic enough to think that our objectives will be achieved easily, or fast, or without setbacks. We are hopeful enough to think that most of what we want can be ours, if only we reach out and work for it.

And no one can take that hope from us.

We'll see all these centrists and "Clinton moderates" and DNC zombies in Philadelphis this summer. It will be quite a convention, to say the least.

Nihao Ma!

on destroying it. Optimism is worse than Truth to them. Its the difference between Them and Us.

She's more of a follower herself, leading from behind.

And hey, if the Sanders plan fails after four years, we can always just go back to this other system. You know, the one that isn’t working.

Wait till saturday and then super tuesday.

It is what it is.

The Bernie underground has been trying to murder Hill fans optimism for months now.

How you like the feeling Bernie supporters?

I'm kind of impressed by the millennials and some X-ers, I think they're catching on. Faster than I would've thought because they didn't have the benefit of seeing government when it worked.

That makes me more optimistic than I would be otherwise.