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kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:30 AM Feb 2016

Assange: Clinton would be a “disastrous” president, Sanders refreshing but has

a lot of problems in foreign policies.

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/detained_whistle_blower_julian_assange_remains_hopeful_hell_be_able_to_leave_embassy_warns_a_clinton_presidency_would_bring_disaster/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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When asked about presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, Assange revealed a fascinating connection: He says his adopted father was an activist with Sanders in Chicago.

Assange says Sanders’ policies vis-à-vis Wall Street and out-of-control corporate influence are refreshing, but, emphasizing that he specializes in foreign policy, noted Bernie “has a lot of problems” in foreign policy. Sanders supported the U.S. in Afghanistan and the NATO wars in Libya and Yugoslavia.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, Assange warned would be a “disastrous” president. “She is very hawkish,” he stressed, recalling how Clinton led the NATO war that “destroyed Libya.”

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Assange added, “We can expect many more subsequent disasters if Clinton becomes president.”

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Assange: Clinton would be a “disastrous” president, Sanders refreshing but has (Original Post) kgnu_fan Feb 2016 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #1
Too comfortable with empire by far. Agreed eridani Feb 2016 #7
That is a given. artislife Feb 2016 #28
There's literally no one running EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #9
Interesting H2O Man Feb 2016 #2
See new @wikileaks document release on NSA last night kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #11
lol treestar Feb 2016 #3
Wow. Is this still the left? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #8
I didn't know the left supported rapists. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #13
What? treestar Feb 2016 #21
This ^^^^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #33
When he is wrong, he is wrong - but in this case - he is most certainly right. djean111 Feb 2016 #4
Who cares what he thinks? mcar Feb 2016 #5
Given Assange seems to have trouble understanding basic concepts like no means no mythology Feb 2016 #6
Alleged; or is guilty until proven innocent the new trend? n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #10
I generally find that when someone skips bail... brooklynite Feb 2016 #24
No woman has accused Assange of rape nichomachus Feb 2016 #25
"Julian Assange 'rape victim' criticises UN decision over detention" hack89 Feb 2016 #34
Believe whatever propaganda you want nichomachus Feb 2016 #35
I don't automatically assume women lie about rape. hack89 Feb 2016 #36
What amuses me, in a sort of gallows humour way, is that when folks who support Bernie Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #12
Right? pengu Feb 2016 #15
The larger argument must now consider the possibility of a Trump Presidency randr Feb 2016 #14
He'd be a diastrous President too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #16
If Hillary beats Bernie randr Feb 2016 #18
I know who he will, he's already said it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #19
Same. I won't support Hillary just because Bernie does. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #22
Yes. My support is based on issues and policies, not personalities RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #26
Factoid randr Feb 2016 #31
What does that matter? nt artislife Feb 2016 #30
Good assessment on both candidates (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #17
Clinton has demonstrated her discernment on foreign policy LemmingWarrior Feb 2016 #20
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Feb 2016 #23
Well, the Clintons are neocons. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #27
I only disagree with Assange when he says that Bernie "has a lot of problem" in foreign policy. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #29
Why? jcgoldie Feb 2016 #32
Can he vote? oasis Feb 2016 #37
I don't care who the rapist supports. nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #38

Response to kgnu_fan (Original post)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
28. That is a given.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:41 PM
Feb 2016

We would spend a lot less money and people on foreign affairs. That is a better policy already.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
9. There's literally no one running
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:43 AM
Feb 2016

that's strong on foreign policy. American's are so disconnected from reality that that is impossible.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
8. Wow. Is this still the left?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:43 AM
Feb 2016

So you'll accept David Brock's punditry but ignore someone who has seen firsthand what Clinton is capable of because "ego". You probably wholeheartedly believe Snowden was a traitor, too.

SMDH.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. What?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:00 AM
Feb 2016

How has Julian seen first hand anything? No the left does not monolithically accept the actions of Julian and Eddie. They keep trying to make themselves relevant rather than facing the charges against them.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. When he is wrong, he is wrong - but in this case - he is most certainly right.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

He has been privy to so much of the foreign policy fuckups and coverups.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. Given Assange seems to have trouble understanding basic concepts like no means no
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:42 AM
Feb 2016

I'm not going to take advice from him. If he wants to talk about other people's weaknesses, he needs to take responsibility for his own and go stand trial for the multiple rapes he's committed.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
25. No woman has accused Assange of rape
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

It was a charge made up by the police at the behest of the US so the US could get him where they could capture or assasinate him.

But it's not surprising to see Team Hillary spreading the lie. That's what Hillary does best.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
35. Believe whatever propaganda you want
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

The corporatocracy will stop at nothing to silence -- or murder -- assange.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
36. I don't automatically assume women lie about rape.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:08 PM
Feb 2016

that is why I believe her. Is that really an unreasonable standard?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
12. What amuses me, in a sort of gallows humour way, is that when folks who support Bernie
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:44 AM
Feb 2016

say he's 'weak on foreign policy', they mean 100% the opposite of what people who don't support him mean.

We mean he's too prone still to the temptation of supporting foreign adventurism, while they feel he's too much a dove.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
16. He'd be a diastrous President too.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:50 AM
Feb 2016

Which is why we've got to nominate Bernie.

Because if it comes down to 'disastrous vs disastrous', there's no winning with either.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
19. I know who he will, he's already said it.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:56 AM
Feb 2016

But I don't vote based on 'endorsements' and I support policy, not personality. Bernie has the policy, Hillary doesn't.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
26. Yes. My support is based on issues and policies, not personalities
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

It's always gratifying (and somewhat validating) when someone you admire supports your candidate. But I would never, ever support a candidate based on a recommendation or -- even worse -- a skillfully crafted, heartstrings-tugging political ad. I prefer to look at the facts and think for myself. That's what my brain is for.

LemmingWarrior

(115 posts)
20. Clinton has demonstrated her discernment on foreign policy
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:59 AM
Feb 2016

by reading the exact same information Bernie did and yet decided to vote with Bush/Cheney to attack Iraq! How can she sleep at night knowing her bad decision cost so many American lives, as a veteran myself, I find that unforgivable. And the enormous cost in dollars is mind-boggling. Some people have said, "Well, she apologized for that mistake" really? How many opportunities will Clinton have as a president to make more mistakes, do you want to chance it, do you? Besides being a veteran I'm also a mother and grandmother and I want to feel I've made the best choice for this honorable position of Madam President and it's not Hillary Clinton. There are so many other women worth considering, let's not be in a rush.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
29. I only disagree with Assange when he says that Bernie "has a lot of problem" in foreign policy.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:48 PM
Feb 2016

Compared to Hillary on foreign policy, Bernie would be a much saner leader.

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