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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:04 PM Feb 2016

In 1974 Call to Abolish CIA, Sanders Followed in Footsteps of JFK, Truman

"Glorious Victory" by Diego Rivera



In 1974 Call to Abolish CIA, Sanders Followed in Footsteps of JFK, Truman

by Jon Schwarz
The Intercept, Feb. 22 2016

According to an article in Politico, Bernie Sanders, during his 1974 campaign for the Senate on Vermont’s Liberty Union Party ticket, called the Central Intelligence Agency “a dangerous institution that has got to go.” Sanders complained that the CIA was only accountable to “right-wing lunatics who use it to prop up fascist dictatorships.”

Jeremy Bash, a former CIA chief of staff who is now an adviser to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, told reporter Michael Crowley that Sanders’s comment “reinforces the conclusion that he’s not qualified to be commander in chief.” Bash explained: “Abolishing the CIA in the 1970s would have unilaterally disarmed America during the height of the Cold War and at a time when terrorist networks across the Middle East were gaining strength.” Bash was chief of staff for Leon Panetta at both the CIA and Defense Department, and now runs a consulting firm called Beacon Global Strategies.

But Sanders’ position is not that radical: many prominent politicians, including two previous Democratic commanders-in-chief, have called for the CIA to be dismantled or severely constrained.

John F. Kennedy famously described his desire to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds” after the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Peter Kornbluh points out in his book Bay of Pigs Declassified that the State Department at that same time proposed that the CIA should be stripped of its covert action capacity and renamed. However, the CIA escaped any serious repercussions — partly because, as Kornbluh explains, the CIA’s then-director John McCone made sure that most of the copies of a damning report on the Bay of Pigs by the Agency’s own Inspector General were literally burned.

Then in 1963, after Kennedy’s assassination, Harry Truman wrote a newspaper column explaining that “I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations … I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the President … and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere.”

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https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/in-1974-call-to-abolish-cia-sanders-followed-in-footsteps-of-jfk-truman/


When secret government agencies and secret government agents act to benefit secret agendas and secret groups and secret individuals, it isn't democracy.
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In 1974 Call to Abolish CIA, Sanders Followed in Footsteps of JFK, Truman (Original Post) Octafish Feb 2016 OP
Awesome yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #1
What Truman wrote about CIA after JFK's assassination... Octafish Feb 2016 #3
this is great, thanks for posting it! amborin Feb 2016 #2
FTR: Allen Dulles hid CIA-Mafia assassination plots from Warren Commission and America Octafish Feb 2016 #4
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #5
CIA director withheld information about JFK assassination Octafish Feb 2016 #6
Good example of revolutionary thinking. HassleCat Feb 2016 #7
As it stands now, CIA is a money maker for cronies. They even brag about it. Octafish Feb 2016 #8
So waiting for you to weigh in!!!! Happy Dance! 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #9
Aw, shucks. Here's why it matters: Secret Government is Un-Democratic Octafish Feb 2016 #12
Whoa! I knew, I just knew you were saving up for a special 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #18
+1,000,000,000! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #32
What do you suppose Truman and JFK would have thought of The Patriot Act? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #10
He'd say the place smelled like sulphur. Octafish Feb 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author hedda_foil Feb 2016 #11
Why else was GHW Bush put at the top of that pyramid of filth. hifiguy Feb 2016 #14
Amy Goodman and DemocracyNow! host a great interview... Octafish Feb 2016 #20
What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The Nazis bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #15
Dulles and the NAZIs formed the secret clique within the secret state. Octafish Feb 2016 #21
GREAT thread and comments, so interesting. K&R. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #16
Bernie Sanders Wanted to Abolish the CIA—Good! Octafish Feb 2016 #22
The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children (Dr. Jeffrey S. Kaye & H.P. Albarelli Jr.) bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #17
Plutonium Files: How the U.S. Secretly Fed Radioactivity to Thousands of Americans Octafish Feb 2016 #23
K n R! 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #19
CIA CI chief James Angleton threatened Warren Commission staff lawyer who wanted to talk with HSCA Octafish Feb 2016 #24
So how come he's complained in debate after debate about lack of Intel? MaggieD Feb 2016 #25
Got a link for that? Octafish Feb 2016 #26
If only he still meant to do so! JackRiddler Feb 2016 #27
Weird how little civilian control of the military seems to mean these days. Octafish Feb 2016 #29
Bernie has always stood up for Good. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #28
1975 also was when Church Committee was warning us about CIA, NSA, FBI secret powers. Octafish Feb 2016 #30
In her own words... Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #33
I like Bernie TeddyR Feb 2016 #31
Considering the Agency has yet to come clean in regards to JFK assassination... Octafish Feb 2016 #34
All of the Watergate break-in crew were CIA. The Franklin Credit "cover-up" continues thanks to the bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #35

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. What Truman wrote about CIA after JFK's assassination...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

Here's something that more people interested in democracy should know:

Truman criticized CIA after the assassination of President Kennedy and Dulles asked for retraction.

Truman's column on CIA cloak and dagger got published in the Washington Post and, evidently, few other newspapers at the time. What could have bugged Dulles -- who was no longer DCI -- so much that he got the Mighty Wurlitzer to hum a different tune?



Limit CIA Role To Intelligence

By Harry S Truman
The Washington Post, December 22, 1963 - page A11

INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency—CIA. At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an arm of the President.

I think it is fairly obvious that by and large a President's performance in office is as effective as the information he has and the information he gets. That is to say, that assuming the President himself possesses a knowledge of our history, a sensitive understanding of our institutions, and an insight into the needs and aspirations of the people, he needs to have available to him the most accurate and up-to-the-minute information on what is going on everywhere in the world, and particularly of the trends and developments in all the danger spots in the contest between East and West. This is an immense task and requires a special kind of an intelligence facility.

Of course, every President has available to him all the information gathered by the many intelligence agencies already in existence. The Departments of State, Defense, Commerce, Interior and others are constantly engaged in extensive information gathering and have done excellent work.

But their collective information reached the President all too frequently in conflicting conclusions. At times, the intelligence reports tended to be slanted to conform to established positions of a given department. This becomes confusing and what's worse, such intelligence is of little use to a President in reaching the right decisions.

Therefore, I decided to set up a special organization charged with the collection of all intelligence reports from every available source, and to have those reports reach me as President without department "treatment" or interpretations.

I wanted and needed the information in its "natural raw" state and in as comprehensive a volume as it was practical for me to make full use of it. But the most important thing about this move was to guard against the chance of intelligence being used to influence or to lead the President into unwise decisions—and I thought it was necessary that the President do his own thinking and evaluating.

Since the responsibility for decision making was his—then he had to be sure that no information is kept from him for whatever reason at the discretion of any one department or agency, or that unpleasant facts be kept from him. There are always those who would want to shield a President from bad news or misjudgments to spare him from being "upset."

For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.

I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations. Some of the complications and embarrassment I think we have experienced are in part attributable to the fact that this quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role that it is being interpreted as a symbol of sinister and mysterious foreign intrigue—and a subject for cold war enemy propaganda.

With all the nonsense put out by Communist propaganda about "Yankee imperialism," "exploitive capitalism," "war-mongering," "monopolists," in their name-calling assault on the West, the last thing we needed was for the CIA to be seized upon as something akin to a subverting influence in the affairs of other people.

I well knew the first temporary director of the CIA, Adm. Souers, and the later permanent directors of the CIA, Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg and Allen Dulles. These were men of the highest character, patriotism and integrity—and I assume this is true of all those who continue in charge.

But there are now some searching questions that need to be answered. I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the President, and that whatever else it can properly perform in that special field—and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere.

We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.

SOURCE: http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry%20Truman's%20CIA%20article.html



So. One month after the assassination, President Truman expressed public concern CIA had strayed off the reservation from intelligence gathering of foreign news sources to cloak-and-dagger operations. Time -- and the Church Committee -- has since shown CIA operated, illegally, domestically.

Allen Dulles, on behalf of CIA, even asked Truman to retract it. From Ray McGovern...



Fox Guarding Hen House

The well-connected Dulles got himself appointed to the Warren Commission and took the lead in shaping the investigation of JFK’s assassination.

Documents in the Truman Library show that he then mounted a small domestic covert action of his own to neutralize any future airing of Truman’s and Souers’s warnings about covert action.

So important was this to Dulles that he invented a pretext to get himself invited to visit Truman in Independence, Missouri. On the afternoon of April 17, 1964, Dulles spent a half-hour trying to get the former President to retract what he had said in his op-ed. No dice, said Truman.

No problem, thought Dulles. Four days later, in a formal memo for his old buddy Lawrence Houston, CIA General Counsel from 1947 to 1973, Dulles fabricated a private retraction, claiming that Truman told him the Washington Post article was “all wrong,” and that Truman “seemed quite astounded at it.”

No doubt Dulles thought it might be handy to have such a memo in CIA files, just in case.

A fabricated retraction? It certainly seems so, because Truman did not change his tune. Far from it.

In a June 10, 1964, letter to the managing editor of Look magazine, for example, Truman restated his critique of covert action, emphasizing that he never intended the CIA to get involved in “strange activities.”

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SOURCE: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/122909b.html



Thanks for grokking, yourpaljoey! Democracy depends on the People knowing what their elected representatives are doing, not the other way around.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. FTR: Allen Dulles hid CIA-Mafia assassination plots from Warren Commission and America
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:10 PM
Feb 2016

To the Republican Dulles and his "boss," Vice President Richard Nixon, the Bay of Pigs Thing was supposed to have ushered in a new era of moneymaking for their "Friends" like Meyer Lansky.



AUG 1960: Richard Bissell meets with Colonel Sheffield Edwards, director of the CIA's Office of Security, and discusses with him ways to eliminate or assassinate Fidel Castro. Edwards proposes that the job be done by assassins hand-picked by the American underworld, specifically syndicate interests who have been driven out of their Havana gambling casinos by the Castro regime. Bissell gives Edwards the go-ahead to proceed. Between August 1960, and April 1961, the CIA with the help of the Mafia pursues a series of plots to poison or shot Castro. The CIA’s own internal report on these efforts states that these plots "were viewed by at least some of the participants as being merely one aspect of the over-all active effort to overthrow the regime that culminated in the Bay of Pigs." (CIA, Inspector General's Report on Efforts to Assassinate Fidel Castro, p. 3, 14)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/bayofpigs/chron.html



Details on the actual sit-down:



Ever wonder about the sanity of America's leaders? Take a close look at perhaps the most bizarre plot in U.S. intelligence history

By Bryan Smith
Chicago Magazine
November 2007
(page 4 of 6)

EXCERPT...

By September 1960, the project was proceeding apace. Roselli would report directly to Maheu. The first step was a meeting in New York. There, at the Plaza Hotel, Maheu introduced Roselli to O'Connell. The agent wanted to cover up the participation of the CIA, so he pretended to be a man named Jim Olds who represented a group of wealthy industrialists eager to get rid of Castro so they could get back in business.

"We may know some people," Roselli said. Several weeks later, they all met at the Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami. For years, the luxurious facility had served as the unofficial headquarters for Mafioso leaders seeking a base close to their gambling interests in Cuba. Now, it would be the staging area for the assassination plots.

At a meeting in one of the suites, Roselli introduced Maheu to two men: Sam Gold and a man Roselli referred to as Joe, who could serve as a courier to Cuba. By this time, Roselli was on to O'Connell. "I'm not kidding," Roselli told the agent one day. "I know who you work for. But I'm not going to ask you to confirm it."

Roselli may have figured out that he was dealing with the CIA, but neither Maheu nor O'Connell realized the rank of mobsters with whom they were dealing. That changed when Maheu picked up a copy of the Sunday newspaper supplement Parade, which carried an article laying out the FBI's ten most wanted criminals. Leading the list was Sam Giancana, a.k.a. "Mooney," a.k.a. "Momo," a.k.a. "Sam the Cigar," a Chicago godfather who was one of the most feared dons in the country—and the man who called himself Sam Gold. "Joe" was also on the list. His real name, however, was Santos Trafficante—the outfit's Florida and Cuba chieftain.

Maheu alerted O'Connell. "My God, look what we're involved with," Maheu said. O'Connell told his superiors. Questioned later before the 1975 U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (later nicknamed the Church Committee after its chairman, Frank Church, the Democratic senator from Idaho), O'Connell was asked whether there had ever been any discussion about asking two men on the FBI's most wanted list to carry out a hit on a foreign leader.

"Not with me there wasn't," O'Connell answered.

"And obviously no one said stop—and you went ahead."

"Yes."

"Did it bother you at all?"

"No," O'Connell answered, "it didn't."


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http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-2007/How-the-CIA-Enlisted-the-Chicago-Mob-to-Put-a-Hit-on-Castro/index.php?cparticle=4&siarticle=3



To show the lasting power of those who benefited from the assassination, the Mighty Wurlitzer plays the false tune that the Kennedy brothers -- not Dulles and Nixon -- were the ones who wanted Castro dead.



Spies: Ex-CIA Agent In Raleigh Says Castro Knew About JFK Assassination Ahead Of Time

Former CIA agent and author Brian Latell in Raleigh

By The Raleigh Telegram

RALEIGH – A noted former Central Intelligence Agency officer, author, and scholar who is intimately knowledgeable about Cuba and Fidel Castro, says he believes there is evidence that Castro’s government knew about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963 ahead of time.

SNIP...

Robert Kennedy, as the Attorney General of the United States, was in charge of the operation, said Latell. Despite the United States’ best efforts, the operation was nonetheless penetrated by Cuban intelligence agents, said Latell.

Latell said there were two serious assassination attempts by the United States against Castro that even used members of the mafia to help, but both of them were obviously unsuccessful.

He also said that there was a plot by the United States to have Castro jabbed with a pen containing a syringe filled with a very effective poison. Latell said that he believes the experienced assassin who worked for Castro who originally agreed to the plan may have been a double agent. After meeting with a personal representative of Robert Kennedy in Paris, the man knew that the plan to assassinate Castro came from the highest levels of the government, including John F. and Robert Kennedy.

The plan was never carried out, as the man later defected to the United States, but with so many double agents working for Castro also pledging allegiance to the CIA, Latell said it was likely that the information got back to Havana that the Kennedy brothers endorsed that plot with the pen.

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http://raleightelegram.com/201209123311



What's seldom mentioned by historians -- and NEVER mentioned on television -- is that the CIA contracted with the MAFIA in 1960 to murder Fidel Castro and others in the Cuban government.

PS: You are most welcome, amborin! Thank you for grokking.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. CIA director withheld information about JFK assassination
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

By Shawn Price
UPI, Oct. 13, 2015

LANGLEY, Va., Oct. 13 (UPI) -- A declassified CIA report reveals former director John McCone withheld information to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

A secret report written in 2013 by CIA historian David Robarge and declassified in fall of 2014, alleges McCone led a "benign cover up" that kept "incendiary" information about the CIA from the Warren Commission, the report said.

McCone's cover up was designed to keep the commission focused on "what the agency believed was the 'best truth' - that Lee Harvey Oswald, ... acted alone in killing John Kennedy," the report said.

SNIP...

Robarge told Politico, the agency had declassified the report "to highlight misconceptions about the CIA's connection to JFK's assassination." A common conspiracy theory is that the CIA was in some way behind the killing.

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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/10/13/CIA-director-withheld-information-about-JFK-assassination/4701444710907/

This isn't "ancient history." Secret Government is what is making our world of the rich get richer and the rest get austerity and Flint.

PS: You are most welcome, WillyT! And to think, some people eh wonder if Bernie is a Democrat.
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. Good example of revolutionary thinking.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

Breaking up the CIA would be a positive move. It's the kind of proposal met with the usual, "We could never do that!" "What a dangerous, extreme idea!" Blah, blah, blah. The truth is the CIA is worse than useless. They do lousy intelligence. Their dirty tricks branch spends untold amounts of money and kills people all over the world to install tinpot dictators who are likely to turn against us any moment. The unchecked growth of the "national security" apparatus is a disaster.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. As it stands now, CIA is a money maker for cronies. They even brag about it.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016
Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

SNIP...

Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html

Thank you for grokking, HassleCat. Rebel yell: "Moneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!" (In Peter Wolf J. Geils voice)

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
9. So waiting for you to weigh in!!!! Happy Dance!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

Thank you, dear Sir!!

OCTAFISH IS IN THE HOUSE!

Now, sit, be still, read, pay attention. Learn.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Aw, shucks. Here's why it matters: Secret Government is Un-Democratic
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

Ideas like "Justice," "Liberty" and "Democracy" may be missing from humanity's thoughts in the future if we don't wake the heck up now.



Surveillance and Scandal

Time-Tested Weapons for U.S. Global Power

By Alfred McCoy
Tomgram, Jan. 19, 2014

For more than six months, Edward Snowden’s revelations about the National Security Agency (NSA) have been pouring out from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Guardian, Germany’s Der Spiegel, and Brazil’s O Globo, among other places. Yet no one has pointed out the combination of factors that made the NSA’s expanding programs to monitor the world seem like such a slam-dunk development in Washington. The answer is remarkably simple. For an imperial power losing its economic grip on the planet and heading into more austere times, the NSA’s latest technological breakthroughs look like a bargain basement deal when it comes to projecting power and keeping subordinate allies in line -- like, in fact, the steal of the century. Even when disaster turned out to be attached to them, the NSA’s surveillance programs have come with such a discounted price tag that no Washington elite was going to reject them.

For well over a century, from the pacification of the Philippines in 1898 to trade negotiations with the European Union today, surveillance and its kissing cousins, scandal and scurrilous information, have been key weapons in Washington’s search for global dominion. Not surprisingly, in a post-9/11 bipartisan exercise of executive power, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have presided over building the NSA step by secret step into a digital panopticon designed to monitor the communications of every American and foreign leaders worldwide.

What exactly was the aim of such an unprecedented program of massive domestic and planetary spying, which clearly carried the risk of controversy at home and abroad? Here, an awareness of the more than century-long history of U.S. surveillance can guide us through the billions of bytes swept up by the NSA to the strategic significance of such a program for the planet’s last superpower. What the past reveals is a long-term relationship between American state surveillance and political scandal that helps illuminate the unacknowledged reason why the NSA monitors America’s closest allies.

[font color="green"]Not only does such surveillance help gain intelligence advantageous to U.S. diplomacy, trade relations, and war-making, but it also scoops up intimate information that can provide leverage -- akin to blackmail -- in sensitive global dealings and negotiations of every sort. The NSA’s global panopticon thus fulfills an ancient dream of empire. With a few computer key strokes, the agency has solved the problem that has bedeviled world powers since at least the time of Caesar Augustus: how to control unruly local leaders, who are the foundation for imperial rule, by ferreting out crucial, often scurrilous, information to make them more malleable.[/font color]

A Cost-Savings Bonanza With a Downside

Once upon a time, such surveillance was both expensive and labor intensive. Today, however, unlike the U.S. Army’s shoe-leather surveillance during World War I or the FBI’s break-ins and phone bugs in the Cold War years, the NSA can monitor the entire world and its leaders with only 100-plus probes into the Internet’s fiber optic cables.

This new technology is both omniscient and omnipresent beyond anything those lacking top-secret clearance could have imagined before the Edward Snowden revelations began. Not only is it unimaginably pervasive, but NSA surveillance is also a particularly cost-effective strategy compared to just about any other form of global power projection. And better yet, it fulfills the greatest imperial dream of all: to be omniscient not just for a few islands, as in the Philippines a century ago, or a couple of countries, as in the Cold War era, but on a truly global scale.

CONTINUED...

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175795/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy,_it's_about_blackmail,_not_national_security/


Why does this matter, when my house is about to get foreclosed because my job got offshored? It's tied in, when Wall Street and War Inc. are where the really Big Bucks go to get made. For We the People are the ones who ALWAYS get "the haircut."

Sometimes a fortune rests on a mere scrap of information, like in a "Fistful of Dollars."





CIA moonlights in corporate world

In the midst of two wars and the fight against Al Qaeda, the CIA is offering operatives a chance to peddle their expertise to private companies on the side — a policy that gives financial firms and hedge funds access to the nation’s top-level intelligence talent, POLITICO has learned.

In one case, these active-duty officers moonlighted at a hedge-fund consulting firm that wanted to tap their expertise in “deception detection,” the highly specialized art of telling when executives may be lying based on clues in a conversation.

The never-before-revealed policy comes to light as the CIA and other intelligence agencies are once again under fire for failing to “connect the dots,” this time in the Christmas Day bombing plot on Northwest Flight 253.

SNIP...

But the close ties between active-duty and retired CIA officers at one consulting company show the degree to which CIA-style intelligence gathering techniques have been employed by hedge funds and financial institutions in the global economy.

The firm is called Business Intelligence Advisors, and it is based in Boston. BIA was founded and is staffed by a number of retired CIA officers, and it specializes in the arcane field of “deception detection.” BIA’s clients have included Goldman Sachs and the enormous hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors, according to spokesmen for both firms.

CONTINUED...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32290.html#ixzz0eIFPhHBh





Then there's the signature tradition of playing both sides off the middle, like selling rifles to both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I, or the bounty hunters in "For a Few Dollars More" getting one inside to work out.



Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

SNIP...

Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html





Then, there's Booz Allen, NSA's go-to private spyhaus, vacuums and filters the right stuff for Carlyle Group, a buy-partisan business which always seems to know where and what to bomb and make a buck, but the lines between sides turned out be fuzzy and amorphous nebula-like -- like in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."



The Knights of the Revolving Door

When War is Swell: the Carlyle Group and the Middle East at War

by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, Weekend Edition September 6-8, 2013

Paris.

A couple of weeks ago, in a dress rehearsal for her next presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton, the doyenne of humanitarian interventionism, made a pit-stop at the Carlyle Group to brief former luminaries of the imperial war rooms about her shoot-first-don’t-ask-questions foreign policy.

For those of you who have put the playbill of the Bush administration into a time capsule and buried it beneath the compost bin, the Carlyle Group is essentially a hedge fund for war-making and high tech espionage. They are the people who brought you the Iraq war and all those intrusive niceties of Homeland Security. Call them the Knights of the Revolving Door, many of Carlyle’s executives and investors having spent decades in the Pentagon, the CIA or the State Department, before cashing in for more lucrative careers as war profiteers. They are now licking their chops at the prospect for an all-out war against Syria, no doubt hoping that the conflagration will soon spread to Lebanon, Jordan and, the big prize, Iran.

For a refresher course on the sprawling tentacles of the Carlyle Group, here’s an essay that first appeared in CounterPunch’s print edition in 2004. Sadly, not much has changed in the intervening years, except these feted souls have gotten much, much richer. – JSC

Across all fronts, Bush’s war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 1000, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Ba’athists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.

Still not all of the president’s men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtel’s triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.

Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his son’s war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. They’ve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you don’t need to hire lobbyists..

Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesn’t negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyle’s behalf.

One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osama’s half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyle’s accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/when-war-is-swell-the-carlyle-group-and-the-middle-east-at-war/



Sorry to cut and paste, but the subject needs mention. The reality is that underneath what shows for public navigators is one enormous iceberg made from blood-red ice, invisible to the proles and serfs who are doing their best to keep afloat in a frozen sea of austerity, endless war and debt servitude in what are, by far, the wealthiest times in human history.

The planet's people are going on a ride that's not of our choosing or making. About time someone asked the scary driver to pull over before the bus flies off the cliff. [font color="blue"]The one with guts enough for that publicly thankless job is Bernie Sanders.[/font color]

Thank you for your kind thoughts, 7wo7rees. Your friendship means the world to me.


7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
18. Whoa! I knew, I just knew you were saving up for a special
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016

delivery. Thank you ever so much. I hope other DUers appreciate the time you spend sharing so much we all need to know.

You are the bestest!!!

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
10. What do you suppose Truman and JFK would have thought of The Patriot Act?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

War On Terror?
Black Sites?
Torture?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. He'd say the place smelled like sulphur.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:37 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:59 PM - Edit history (1)

JFK appreciated civilian control. He had placed "internal security" under the AG Robert F. Kennedy.





My transcription:



June 9, 1962

NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION MEMORANDUM NO. 161

TO: The Secretary of State
The Secretary of Defense
The Secretary of the Treasury
The Secretary of Commerce
The Attorney General
The Director of Central Intelligence
Military Representative of the President
The Administrator, Federal Aviation Administration
The Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission

SUBJECT: U.S. Internal Security Programs

1. In line with my continuing effort to give primary responsibility for the initiative on major matters of policy and administration in a given field to a key member of my administration, I will look to the Attorney General to take the initiative in the government in insuring the development of plans, programs, and action proposals to protect the internal security of the United States. I will expect him to prepare recommendations in collaboration with other departments and agencies in the government having the responsibility for internal security programs with respect to those matters requiring presidential action.

2. Accordingly, I have directed that the two interdepartmental committees concerned with the internal security – the Interdepartmental intelligence Conference (IIC) and the Interdepartmental Committee on Internal Security (ICIS) – which have been under the supervision of the National Security Council will be transferred to the supervision of the Attorney General. The continuing need for these committees and their relationship to the Attorney General will be matters for the Attorney General to determine.

Signed,
John F. Kennedy


COPIES: J. Edgar Hoover, Chairman Interdepartmental Intelligence Conference
John F. Doherty, Chairman Interdepartmental Committee on Internal Security
A Russell Ash, NSC
Mr. Hoagie



JFK lost a brother fighting fascism. He certainly wasn't going to sit by and let it take over the United States of America.



Response to Octafish (Original post)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. Why else was GHW Bush put at the top of that pyramid of filth.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

And everyone, read David Talbot's "The Devil's Chessboard." Published last fall it answers literally dozens, if not hundreds of questions about Why Things Are The Way They Are.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
20. Amy Goodman and DemocracyNow! host a great interview...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016
DAVID TALBOT: Well, as I write in the book and as you just pointed out, all the practices that we are wrestling with as a country now, the intelligence and security measures—including, I might add, the legacy of the killing fields in Central America that your guest was just discussing, in Guatemala and so on—that all had its roots, not after 9/11, but during the Dulles era and the Cold War. He was a man who felt he was above the law. He felt that democracy was something that should not be left in the hands of the American people or its representatives. He was part of what the famous sociologist from the 1950s, C. Wright Mills, called the power elite. And he felt that he and his brother and those types of people should be running the country.

SOURCE: http://www.democracynow.org/2015/10/13/the_rise_of_americas_secret_government


"Above the Law" is how it looks for the banksters, the warmongers, the traitors, the cronies, the ideological descendants of Allen Dulles -- those who no matter how gross their violations, never are held to account.
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
15. What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The Nazis
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101685134

The CIA Connections To The Mind Control Cults
http://wariscrime.com/new/the-cia-connections-to-the-mind-control-cults

Inquiry Spreads On 6 Children And Cult (NYT 1987 re The Finders)
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

Dr. Ewen Cameron, Memory Thief-Part 1 (2006)



It's no secret, Sir-we are currently not a democracy. The entire US intelligence community and its many assets have been criminally, domestically used against we, the people for quite some time.

We need an American Parliament, me thinks, after cleaning up this mess.

K&R

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
21. Dulles and the NAZIs formed the secret clique within the secret state.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
Feb 2016


Who knew Prescott Bush and Allen Dulles were close with John McCloy? Certainly not the American public.

Allen Dulles, the NAZIs, and the CIA

Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors." Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.

-- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing

Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift


EXCERPT…

Allen Welsh Dulles was born to privilege and a tradition of public service. He was the grandson of one secretary of state and the nephew of another. But by the time he graduated from Princeton in 1914, the robber baron era of American history was coming to an an end, ushered out by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act -- which had been used in 1911 to break up Standard Oil -- and by the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913. The ruling elite was starting to view government less as their own private preserve and more as an unwanted intrusion on their ability to conduct business as usual. That shift of loyalties in itself may account for many of the paradoxical aspects of Dulles's career.

Dulles entered the diplomatic service after college and served as a State Department delegate to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which brought a formal end to World War I. The Versailles Treaty which came out of this conference included a provision making it illegal to sell arms to Germany. This displeased the powerful DuPont family, and they put pressure on the delegates to allow them to opt out. It was Allen Dulles who finally gave them the assurances they wanted that their transactions with Germany would be "winked at."

Dulles remained a diplomat through the early 1920's, spending part of that time in Berlin. However, he left government service in 1926 for the greener pastures of private business, becoming a Wall Street lawyer with the same firm as his older brother, John Foster Dulles.

By the middle 20's, Germany had started recovering from the effects of the war and its postwar economic collapse, and the great German industrial firms were looking like attractive investment opportunities for wealthy Americans. W.A. Harriman & Co., formed in 1919 by Averell Harriman (son of railroad baron E.H. Hariman) and George Herbert Walker, had led the way in directing American money to German companies and had opened a Berlin branch as early as 1922, when Germany was still in chaos. At that time, Averell Harriman traveled to Europe and made contact with the powerful Thyssen family of steel magnates. It was to be a long-lasting and fateful partnership.

CONTINUED…

http://www.panshin.com/trogholm/secret/rightroots/dulles.html


You are absolutely correct, Sir. When secret agents enjoy zero oversight by We the People, it's not a democracy.

Thank heavens for WikiLeaks. It's how we learned they serve masters like Big Oil.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. Bernie Sanders Wanted to Abolish the CIA—Good!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

by Sam Biddle
Gawker.com, Feb. 22, 2016

The CIA has a long history of torture, assassination, botched regime change, extrajudicial executions, opaque drone slaughter, and general disdain for democracy. Bernie Sanders apparently wanted to dissolve it in the 1970s, and that’s a great reason to vote for Bernie Sanders.

The incredulous tone Politico’s Michael Crowley uses to describe Sanders’ decades-old views makes it sound like Bernie the raving left-wing radical had called for abolishing church bake sales, elementary school plays, and the World Series, instead of an unaccountable spy organization with a long history of violent fuck-ups:

The CIA is “a dangerous institution that has got to go,” Sanders told an audience in Vermont in October 1974. He described the agency as a tool of American corporate interests that repeatedly toppled democratically elected leaders — including, he said, Iran’s Mosaddegh. The agency was accountable to no one, he fumed, “except right-wing lunatics who us it to prop up fascist dictatorships.”

(...)

While Sanders’ extreme leftist past is well known, many of his specific views from the 1970s and ’80s remain unfamiliar even to Democratic insiders. And while those views have mellowed considerably over time, Sanders’ unexpectedly strong performance in the presidential race has party leaders increasingly alarmed that Republicans would make devastating use of his early career should he win the Democratic nomination.


Crowley also describes recent remarks by Sanders about the 1953 CIA-backed Iranian coup as “arcane,” as if that disastrous foreign policy decision had no further consequences for the United States in the Middle East. It would be great if that were true!

But Bernie’s ultra-radical 1974 remarks, that the CIA is “a dangerous institution that has got to go” because it’s run by “right-wing lunatics who use it to prop up fascist dictatorships,” only sounds radical because so few people in mainstream American politics are willing to state the obvious. Of course a branch of the U.S. government that has virtually zero oversight or accountability to Congress and a license to kill almost anywhere in the world is a bad and reckless thing. Of course the CIA has been an apparatus of the American right wing, installing dictatorships in the wreckage of democratic governments. And of course the CIA has harmed the security and reputation of the United States, between its botched coups, black site “rendition” prisons, indiscriminate Hellfire missile strikes, hacking of Congressional computers, mujahideen bankrolling, and so forth. How much would we really need a CIA were it not for the threats created by the CIA?

CONTINUED...

http://gawker.com/bernie-sanders-wanted-to-abolish-the-cia-good-1760567613

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. Plutonium Files: How the U.S. Secretly Fed Radioactivity to Thousands of Americans
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016
[font color="green"]"The biggest revelation for me was to see how cruel and inhuman these very educated doctors were toward their patients." -- Eileen Welsome.[/font color]

Amy Goodman of DemocracyNow! interviewed the author:



EXCERPT...

AMY GOODMAN: So let’s go through the experiments. The 18 people injected with Plutonium, none of them knew that that had happened to them. But moving on, in a Massachusetts school, 73 disabled children spoon fed oatmeal that had radio isotopes in them, radioactive isotopes. What happened?

EILEEN WELSOME: In that case, this was a nutrition study and they were given radioactive calcium and other radio isotopes.

AMY GOODMAN: Every morning?

EILEEN WELSOME: In their oatmeal, it was either mixed into the oatmeal or in the milk. And these boys did not know what was being given to them, nor did their parents. And in fact, they were told that this was really something nutritious and good for them. They were asked to give blood samples, urine samples, feces samples.

AMY GOODMAN: How long did this go on for?

EILEEN WELSOME: It went on for a number of years. And these boys grew into men and did not find out what had been done to them until the 1990’s.

AMY GOODMAN: Upstate New York hospital, 18-year-old girl thinks she’s being treated for a pituitary disorder and gets injected with Plutonium?

EILEEN WELSOME: This was a young woman who like Elmer Allen wound up in a hospital at the wrong place and was injected.

AMY GOODMAN: Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women served radioactive iron as part of their regular treatment. What did they think they were getting?

EILEEN WELSOME: This was a study done immediately after World War II and these young women came to the clinic thinking that they were getting vitamins to drink, that this would help their babies. And in fact, what was being studied was how fast the radio iodine crossed into the placenta.

CONTINUED...

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/5/5/plutonium_files_how_the_u_s



Interview video at the link.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. CIA CI chief James Angleton threatened Warren Commission staff lawyer who wanted to talk with HSCA
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016
David Slawson, as a former Warren Commission investigator, tried to warn the House Select Committee on Assassinations that CIA obstructed justice in regards to the Kennedy assassination and was told to zip it...

Phillip Shenon, via David Talbot:

• In the years following the Warren Report’s release, several of the commissioners and staff members distanced themselves from their own report and publicly criticized the manifold deceptions of the agencies on which they had relied, namely the FBI and CIA. Among those who suffered grave doubts was lawyer David Slawson, the man who had been the Warren Commission’s lead investigator into whether JFK was the victim of a conspiracy. In 1975 Slawson aired his criticisms to the New York Times, attacking the CIA for withholding vital information from the commission and calling for a new JFK investigation. Within days of the story breaking in the Times, Slawson received a strange and threatening phone call from James Angleton, the spectral CIA counterintelligence chief. Angleton – who had not only closely monitored Oswald for several years before Dallas, but later took charge of the agency’s investigation into the alleged assassin – adopted a decidedly sinister tone during his call with Slawson, making it clear to the lawyer that he would be wise to remain “a friend of the CIA.” Slawson and his wife were deeply unnerved by the call. He thought the message was clear: “Keep your mouth shut.”

SOURCE: http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_jfk_assassination_we_still_dont_know_what_happened/


If the news media were not corrupt, this story would have been on the front page of The New York Times and Washington Post and led the broadcast news. Seeing how little people who own the media seem to care for truth, it's a good thing there's DU and good friends who read.
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
25. So how come he's complained in debate after debate about lack of Intel?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

He has said many times that we haven't spent enough money on it. Huh?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
26. Got a link for that?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

I recall Sec. Clinton bringing up the bad intel she received. Don't remember Sen. Sanders talking about it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
29. Weird how little civilian control of the military seems to mean these days.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:22 PM
Feb 2016

"Trust Us." Just like "Just Us."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. 1975 also was when Church Committee was warning us about CIA, NSA, FBI secret powers.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

The late Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho), patriot, hero, statesman, and truly a great American, led the last real investigation of CIA, NSA and FBI. When it came to NSA Tech circa 1975, he definitely knew what he was talking about:

“That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”


-- Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) FDR New Deal, Liberal, Progressive, World War II combat veteran. A brave man, the NSA was turned on him. Coincidentally, of course, he narrowly lost re-election a few years later.



And what happened to Church, for his trouble to preserve Democracy? He got the Treatment.

In 1980, Church will lose re-election to the Senate in part because of accusations of his committee’s responsibility for Welch’s death by his Republican opponent, Jim McClure.

SOURCE: http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=frank_church_1


From GWU's National Security Archives:



"Disreputable if Not Outright Illegal": The National Security Agency versus Martin Luther King, Muhammad Ali, Art Buchwald, Frank Church, et al.

Newly Declassified History Divulges Names of Prominent Americans Targeted by NSA during Vietnam Era

Declassification Decision by Interagency Panel Releases New Information on the Berlin Crisis, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Panama Canal Negotiations


National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 441
Posted – September 25, 2013
Originally Posted - November 14, 2008
Edited by Matthew M. Aid and William Burr

Washington, D.C., September 25, 2013 – During the height of the Vietnam War protest movements in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the National Security Agency tapped the overseas communications of selected prominent Americans, most of whom were critics of the war, according to a recently declassified NSA history. For years those names on the NSA's watch list were secret, but thanks to the decision of an interagency panel, in response to an appeal by the National Security Archive, the NSA has released them for the first time. The names of the NSA's targets are eye-popping. Civil rights leaders Dr. Martin Luther King and Whitney Young were on the watch list, as were the boxer Muhammad Ali, New York Times journalist Tom Wicker, and veteran Washington Post humor columnist Art Buchwald. Also startling is that the NSA was tasked with monitoring the overseas telephone calls and cable traffic of two prominent members of Congress, Senators Frank Church (D-Idaho) and Howard Baker (R-Tennessee).

SNIP...

Another NSA target was Senator Frank Church, who started out as a moderate Vietnam War critic. A member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee even before the Tonkin Gulf incident, Church worried about U.S. intervention in a "political war" that was militarily unwinnable. While Church voted for the Tonkin Gulf resolution, he later saw his vote as a grave error. In 1965, as Lyndon Johnson made decisions to escalate the war, Church argued that the United States was doing "too much," criticisms that one White House official said were "irresponsible." Church had been one of Johnson's Senate allies but the President was angry with Church and other Senate critics and later suggested that they were under Moscow's influence because of their meetings with Soviet diplomats. In the fall of 1967, Johnson declared that "the major threat we have is from the doves" and ordered FBI security checks on "individuals who wrote letters and telegrams critical of a speech he had recently delivered." In that political climate, it is not surprising that some government officials eventually nominated Church for the watch list.[10]

SOURCE: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB441/



I wonder if Sen. Richard Schweiker (R-PA) also got the treatment from NSA? He was about the last Liberal Republican brave enough to make waves.

“I think that the report, to those who have studied it closely, has collapsed like a house of cards, and I think the people who read it in the long run future will see that. I frankly believe that we have shown that the [investigation of the] John F. Kennedy assassination was snuffed out before it even began, and that the fatal mistake the Warren Commission made was not to use its own investigators, but instead to rely on the CIA and FBI personnel, which played directly into the hands of senior intelligence officials who directed the cover-up.” — Senator Richard Schweiker on “Face the Nation” in 1976.

Lost to History NOT

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. Considering the Agency has yet to come clean in regards to JFK assassination...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

Obstruction of justice in 1963 (just being acknowledged today -- 52 years later):



CIA director withheld information about JFK assassination

By Shawn Price
UPI, Oct. 13, 2015

LANGLEY, Va., Oct. 13 (UPI) -- A declassified CIA report reveals former director John McCone withheld information to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

A secret report written in 2013 by CIA historian David Robarge and declassified in fall of 2014, alleges McCone led a "benign cover up" that kept "incendiary" information about the CIA from the Warren Commission, the report said.

McCone's cover up was designed to keep the commission focused on "what the agency believed was the 'best truth' - that Lee Harvey Oswald, ... acted alone in killing John Kennedy," the report said.

SNIP...

Robarge told Politico, the agency had declassified the report "to highlight misconceptions about the CIA's connection to JFK's assassination." A common conspiracy theory is that the CIA was in some way behind the killing.

CONTINUED...

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/10/13/CIA-director-withheld-information-about-JFK-assassination/4701444710907/


Of course, there's the ongoing obstruction of justice by CIA in regards to JFK assassination:



Investigators say files could prove interference



Eddie Lopez was the investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

By Bryan Bender
Boston Globe, Oct. 15, 2014

WASHINGTON — It was nearly four decades ago that Eddie Lopez was hired by a congressional committee to reinvestigate the 1963 murder of President John F. Kennedy, a role that had him digging through top secret documents at the CIA.

In the end, the House Select Committee on Assassinations reported in 1978 that it believed the assassination was probably the result of a conspiracy, although it couldn’t prove that, and its conclusions are disputed by many researchers.

But now Lopez is seeking answers to a lingering question: Could still-classified records reveal, as he and some of his fellow investigators have long alleged, that the CIA interfered with the congressional investigation and placed the committee staff under surveillance?

SNIP...

“It was time to fight one last time to ascertain what happened to JFK and to our investigation into his assassination,” Lopez, who is now the chief counsel for a school district in Rochester, N.Y., said in an interview. He is joined in the effort by two other former investigators, researcher Dan Hardway and G. Robert Blakey, the panel’s staff director.

Lopez, 58, charges that the CIA actively stymied the probe and monitored the committee staff members as they pursued leads about the events leading up to the assassination.

CONTINUED...

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/10/15/decades-later-seeking-shed-light-cia-conduct-congressional-inquiry-jfk-assassination/dUf8qawsBQWfM2kxm7w7DM/story.html



What Ed Lopez's partner, Dan Hardway, told me and a college museum full of folks a year ago.

Thought DU might be interested, seeing how CIA and the Secret Government are still lying to the American people, still spying on the American people, and still making a killing off war. What else they're doing to the American people, I can't guess.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
35. All of the Watergate break-in crew were CIA. The Franklin Credit "cover-up" continues thanks to the
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

many links to DOMESTIC operatives/assets of the Agency that are just plain evil.

Chapter 21-Omaha
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016139460

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