...to me is superficial compared to all the actually negatives she has against her.

A large voter turnout, which helps down ticket races.
A huge group of young enthusiastic new Democrats into the party.
A leftwing of the party calmed down after having their voices heard.
The only losers are Hillary snd DWS (who will be shown the door finally).

What Hillary brings to the ticket:
Poor turnout, and losses downticket. Additional House and Senate seats lost. Republican in the WH.
An entire generation of youth that will reject the Democratic Party.
A thoroughly pissed off left wing that will leave the party.
Losers: Hillary, DWS (sure to be fired after engineering yet more losses plus a split in the party), every downticket candidate, Democratic voters, women's issues, minority issues, economic issues, environmental issues, and on and on.

... we'll have to wait until 2018 to clear up the $#!+ that Trump/Cruz/Rubio will be making for the next two years. I don't feel the energy for Hillary that I feel for Bernie. Strangely I feel more energy coming from Trump than Hillary, even if some of it really is rent-a-crowd.

Thanks for the thread, TCJ70.

...to have remembered that. Lol

He'll lose the general in nothing flat.

...what would it be?

"Oh yeah, I forgot that Sanders is a far more accurate representation of what I actually support!"