2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumi am soooooo glad trump is winning...it completely screws up the establishment plan
did i say i LIKE trump? no.
but the ptb had hatched a nice little plan....prop a weak and unelectable candidate under federal investigation up on the dem side, get her the nom at all costs, no matter how much rigging has to be done.
meanwhile, the repubs would put up a puppet on their side, probably with the boy wonder (no doubt they really wanted jeb! but that did not work out)
and if hillary wins the ge, then great..first female president AND someone who will play ball with money interests. and if she loses? no big....the gopE winner would ALSO play ball with wall st.
and of course the most important objective is achieved...keeping bernie OUT of the wh
except along comes donald trump...self funded, not willing to be anyone's patsy, and completely unelectable vs bernie but will trounce hillary in a ge
so what is the dem establishment to do now? they can't keep stalling this investigstion, smearing bernie, or hoping that people will suddenly like hillary.
if they continue to rig for hillary, they will screw themselves with president trump. they just might now be seeing reality, and the need to get behind a candidate who can beat him.........
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)But maybe that's what they deserve for trying to rig the game. Things get worse before they ever get better. They got theirs, why should they care? Meanwhile, I'm gonna be an American apologist for the next eight years until I can expatriate.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Vinca
(50,302 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)timber84
(2,876 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Zack De La Rocha collabed on a track with Run The Jewels (Killer Mike and Glitch Mob's EL-P); so maybe he can just link up with them
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)hillary does not beat any of them, so that is a bit of a moot point
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)or that hillary does not win against any of them?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i might have to agree with that, although i still worry about rubio more right now.
TheUndecider
(93 posts)Trump scares the hell out of me, he's almost as bad as Cruz
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)You do realize that no one and I mean no one can win an election in this country without the AA and Latino vote, right? You really think Trump will get that. You think once Obama puts his GOTV plan in action for Hillary that it won't resonate? And just for the record, Hillary herself is not under "federal investigation." The State Department as well as the FBI has said as much. What is under investigation is the way material is classified, material that is handled through the State Department.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and there is a lot more to the investigation than emails, but i don't really want to argue that point.
i don't have any confidence in trump, its not me, its the people who are rejecting establishment cronyism and favoratism in politics
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Devastating outcomes. Though, this is a common fallacy.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)If it were not for that I'd be happy about it too.
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)Winning anything.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)Cuz if Trump wins me and all the rest of the poor black folk are being sent back to the plantation and I'm not even playing
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and yes, trump not gonna be kind to many minorities..
doc03
(35,363 posts)person running on either side. He will be the next president unless someone can figure a way to
to take him out so far nothing hurts him. He even gets in war with the Pope and wins.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)There is no path to victory for the GOP with out them.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but i would not rule out PA and the working class folks who love him.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)nominee who is not trusted by the independent voters and who seems to be in the pocket of her corporate supporters and won't even tell the voters what she whispered in the ear of her corporate sponsors and who tries to push a status quo establishment agenda versus Trump's "tell it like it is/I'm not beholden to anyone" bullshit, we lose.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)if its both (sanders v trump), then its a wash, and it looks good for bernie. but if it is trump v clinton, it will be a trump landslide.
we have to make sure bernie is the nom
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)I hillary is the Nominee, Trump becomes President
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)rubio or cruz will also be president and possibly worse than trump, as amazing as that is.