2016 Postmortem
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This extraordinary concentration of income, wealth, and political power at the very top imperils all else our economy, our democracy, the revival of the American middle class, the prospects for the poor and for people of color, the necessity of slowing and reversing climate change, and a sensible foreign policy not influenced by the military-industrial complex, as President Dwight Eisenhower once called it. It is the fundamental prerequisite: We have little hope of achieving positive change on any front unless the American people are once again in control.
I have the deepest respect and admiration for Hillary Clinton, and if she wins the Democratic primary Ill work my heart out to help her become president. But I believe Bernie Sanders is the agent of change this nation so desperately needs.
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1161639723848622
Been waiting for Robert Reich to make this official.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I have the deepest respect and admiration for Hillary Clinton, and if she wins the Democratic primary Ill work my heart out to help her become president.
Yes, he will.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You ascribe behavior to us that 99% of us do not engage in. You are thinking of supporters of another candidate.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I know you Sanders fans loved it, but to those who weren't Sanders fans, i.e. 90% of the rest of the country, who were then treated to video of Sanders doing exactly what Hillary was accusing him of doing in this shot, it was a devastating moment for Bernie.
You don't give the side eye unless the comments are untruthful. Which they werent.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)You've got quite a flair for fiction.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-talks-primary-challenge-obama-good-idea-our-democracy-and-democratic-part/
SANDERS: Brian, believe me, I wish I had the answer to your question. Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues, he said one thing as a candidate and is doing something very much else as a president; who cannot believe how weak he has been, for whatever reason, in negotiating with Republicans and theres deep disappointment. So my suggestion is, I think one of the reasons the president has been able to move so far to the right is that there is no primary opposition to him and I think it would do this country a good deal of service if people started thinking about candidates out there to begin contrasting what is a progressive agenda as opposed to what Obama is doing.
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So I would say to Ryan discouragement is not an option. I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)at the White House to discuss chained CPI. That was the turning point for me, so I can understand where Bernie's disappointment is coming from.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)and if I did I would have said so.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)as a bag of hammers. Good job, though! Loved it at the end.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)The comments were untruthful. PolitiFact rated Hillary's assertion an exaggeration at best.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/12/hillary-clinton/did-bernie-sanders-call-president-barack-obama-wea/
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)So in one sense, Clinton was right that Sanders called Obamas policies weak and disappointing, and Sanders did voice support for a primary challenge to Obama.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)actually ran against a Democratic President, Jimmy Carter. He thought it was healthy for the party.
But for Senator Sanders to think aloud, maybe someone should make a token run, to allow our party to strut its stuff?
delrem
(9,688 posts)Imagine that, speaking for the "Democratic party" as an insider "Democratic pundit" on FOX.
I can't blame you. The pay must be OK.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Paul Krugman did. Mike Papintonio who's filling in for Thom Hartmann tonight was just talking about Krugman and his apparent change and support for Hillary. He basically said he seems to have "sold out!"
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)in 2008 and was relentless in his attacks against Barack Obama until around 2010 or so.
He's been consistent in his love for the Clintons.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)And so is Hillary (your mamma, but times change).
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It is a very interesting election.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)It's time for Liz to commit next.
senz
(11,945 posts)in the country. Reich has always stood for humanity and honesty.
Thanks, jillan!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)Put him back in the Sanders' Cabinet.
autonomous
(45 posts)When Reich goes live on facebook!
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)and has never succumbed to third way politics.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts).... To teach ONE class at a public university? And that he gets paid $100k per speech?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Shaping young lives and that.
BTW, Hillary got $275k to speak at a SUNY Buffalo, a PUBLIC university. ONE speech.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Sorry. Try again.
Also, why should anyone make more than a CEO for teaching one class?
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)"So it goes from a foundation at a university to another foundation," Clinton told ABC News, with regard to the UNLV speech.
...
Occupy Democrats claimed Clinton "has donated every cent she's ever earned from speaking fees to charity."
Thats a misreading of Clintons comments in 2014, when she said speaking fees at colleges and universities were donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Clintons financial disclosure form includes 51 speeches in which Clinton was compensated directly.
This claim rates False.[/div]
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/16/occupy-democrats/liberal-group-claims-all-hillary-clintons-speaking/
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)So your article claiming she doesnt donate every speaking fee is irrelevant.
Did you even read your own link before posting?
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)"All of the fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation for it to continue its life-changing and life-saving work. So it goes from a foundation at a university to another foundation," Clinton said when asked about the criticism she and her husband have faced recently for their wealth.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/hillary-clinton-says-shes-donated-all-university-speaking-fees/
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Thanks for proving yourself wrong.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)This absurdity doesn't pass the sniff test.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)It's almost like a conservative telling you their political contributions are for philanthropic purposes...
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)All of the fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation for it to continue its life-changing and life-saving work, she told ABC News. So it goes from a foundation at a university to another foundation. The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation is a nonprofit focusing on global issues that was founded by former President Bill Clinton in 2001.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/hillary-clinton-public-speaking-fees-108581
Are we done here?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Why not just NOT charge a public university? I don't believe for a second she donates her fees.
As to your question about why professors should make more than a CEO? If you think that CEO's should make more, you're part of the problem.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)dchill
(38,516 posts)it deserves!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Both are good deals, one is much better than the other. His net worth is about 4 million, maybe 5. What's hers again? 30 million?
The average CEO, that's a term of art. Small corporations have CEOs, but what most readers think of as 'CEO salary' is that of large Corporate CEOs and the average in that class is about 13 Million a year plus bells and whistles.
Never trust anyone who uses words where numbers belong.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I was an Executive Assistant for many years at Fortune 100 corporations (C-level) and I made $100k a year. 10 years ago. So yeah, $250k for a PROFESSOR with the kind of bona fides Reich has is a deal and a half.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)rate for Hillary Clinton. Another actually apt comparison would be Elizabeth Warren who was paid $429,981 as a Harvard law professor from 2010 to 2011.
So is his deal really unusual? Warren got it. Hillary gets it in a day.....
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And he doesn't donate his $100k per hour speaking fees either
Impedimentus
(898 posts)I guess Robert Reich failed some folks here in one of his courses ?
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)Hillary told Anderson Cooper she didn't know that she was going to be running for president when she accepted the gigs ...
... and now that she's officially in the thick of her presidential campaign, the people want to know what information/advice did she provide that merited a $250,000 payment.
We have a right to know.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Bernie wants to tax my 401k so this slacker can get paid $250k of our tax dollars to work 4 hours per week?
Fuck that.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Im not the one being disingenuous here.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)chapdrum
(930 posts)Grasping at straws.
I could bore you with how Hillary receives money (but tastefully, though, through the Clinton Global Initiative)
from Pete Peterson's foundation.
He is the former Sec. of Commerce under Ronnie. One of his aims is to privatize Social Security.
Chelsea gives the occasional speech on the Foundation's behalf (no, Mom doesn't do that - that'd be in bad taste).
(It's pgpf.org. The IRS forms are posted, showing recipients.)
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)No single person would be getting such an exorbitant salary for so little work.
Similar to what would most likely/logically happen if we had single-payer healthcare in this country.
When there's only one source of funds (as there would be in both cases), proper due diligence is often brought to bear, and nobody ends up being paid in a manner that's so non-commensurate with what they actually DO.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)lives off the taxpayer teat???
And as I just read up thread, I was right, she DOESN'T donate it. Donating to your own foundation where you pay yourself, your husband, your daughter and Huma HUGE salaries isn't a donation, dearie.
But thanks for the LULZ!!!!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And he's a perfect example of why tuition is so fucking high.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I'm hard pressed to detect any "facts" in any of your posts (at least on this particular thread). But it's charming that you think that, really it is.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)They (and you by proxy) are quoting Reich's total compensation which is far higher than what his professorship earns. Reich was also a board member at the time Carson's rag quoted the figure. Also as anyone who has ever been to graduate school knows, professors spend far more time working off the podium than on, so the idea that he's only working only 4 hours per week is just stupid. Reich makes no where near the top salary paid to his peers. If you're going to have a graduate school and you want to attract top talent, you're going to have to pay 6 figures. Reich could easily make more money in the private sector.
So what you are is someone who carries water for Tucker Fucking Carson, and like Tucker Fucking Carson, factual is what you are not.
ms liberty
(8,591 posts)Thanks Major Nikon!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)AHahahahahahahaaaaa. Beautiful. fuck, my cheeks hurt.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)Disrespect public servants much? What a disgustingly ugly thing to come out of the mouth of a Democrat.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I would happily endorse teachers getting paid 100k per year.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)He teaches one class and gets paid nearly $250k. He's the perfect fucking example of why tuition is so damn high.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I'm glad he got paid $250k. More EXPERTS SHOULD get paid what they're worth... teachers are woefully underpaid consistently... so that Robert got paid $250k for a speech just means the schools are catching up on what they really owe him, as far as I'm concerned.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And he teaches one fucking class.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)He's always been paid that much by them. You're paying it. Wise up.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)You understand that 250K a year is a very good salary, while 250K a day is astronomical. When you hear a film star gets $20 for a film that took three months to shoot that's 250K a day, Hillary's rate for a Corporate speech give or take. Reich's yearly is a daily for Hillary and like, Jennifer Lawrence.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)then walks to Hillary's open arms, hoping to be Sec. of Treasury one day.
Thank you Robert Reich.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)Glad to have you, sir.
Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)Thanks for the thread, jillan.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)endorsed Bernie.
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)and now I love your endorsement!
Go Bernie!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)onecaliberal
(32,882 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)Robert Reich is the reason I pretty much trusted Clinton.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)K & R
AzDar
(14,023 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...for money for Sanders.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)I hope Bernie appoints his Secretary of the Treasury.
jillan
(39,451 posts)autonomous
(45 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)The status quo is not sustainable.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)to impress my husband. He's way up there on my husband's list.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)LOL - that one just irritates no end when I see it strutted out! Sorry!
I'm damn happy to see this so TY Robert Reich & TY jillan for bringing it here!
Rec'd!
jillan
(39,451 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)I had a 15 minute conversation and wished that he had more time as I was greatly impressed with his views on the economy.
jillan
(39,451 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)TryLogic
(1,723 posts)THIS NATION SO DESPERATELY NEEDS !!!
THIS NATION SO DESPERATELY NEEDS !!
THIS NATION SO DESPERATELY NEEDS !!
THIS NATION SO DESPERATELY NEEDS !!
THIS NATION SO DESPERATELY NEEDS !!
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Apparently he hasn't known her long enough to fully appreciate her.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)Hillary is the most qualified candidate for the government we have
Bernie is the most qualified candidate for the government we want
It about says it all right there
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thank you, Robert Reich! Thank you, jillan!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)Robert Reich and never realistically thought that he would endorse anyone other then Bernie for the primaries - if he endorsed at all.
But I am still voting for Hillary!
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Love RR.
JustAMaverick
(35 posts)I had my doubts about Mr. Reich and his ties to the Clintons and the establishment. I always loved his speeches, but he would never quite go far enough in his condemnations nor his solutions. But he is a changed man these days and I for one am grateful for having him on our side. Robert, you make the right choice and I respect you for it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)He's going to be quite a production asset.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)WE get the good ones - not the phonies!