sure Ryan came off as more substantial... Anyone could, it's fucking Sarah Palin.

But it was minor/major league up there tonight...

Saying he did better than Palin isn't saying much. It's kind of like saying a week-old liverwurst sandwich tastes better than dog shit.

Why post this?

dribbling bumbling liar-----and I mean Ryan. He got spanked. Now hand his a wolf-wolf send him to bed.

And Joe took off the gloves and Knocked him Out!

You're wrong, Biden dominated tonight, he didn't dominate against Palin, he wasn't allowed to. We kicked ass tonight no matter what you chicken littles think. Stop being a debby downer and get excited for Nov 6.


Biden made Ryan look like an absolute fool on foreign policy.

Obviously Biden won tonight.

I said so clearly

What I was commenting on was what Ryan was up against.

Last VP debate probably lost McCain the election. People knew from that day on Sarah was not going to have the intelligence to run the country.

People here are reading my statement wrong.

IMO Ryan needed to sustain the momentum they had built up after RMoney's lie filled performance. I don't believe he did that, in fact I believe the momentum shifted back to our side.

Lets hope the feisty job Joe did tonight was the tip of the iceberg

with his hand in the cookie jar.

There was nothing credible or presidential about him.

Ryan was pathetic -- especially fake with that memorized spiel he played back instead of answering the character question near the end. But Palin makes him look like - oh, never mind, he still came across as a two-bit punk. But at least not a complete imbecile like Palin.

How bad was it? There was a point where I'm pretty sure Ryan wet himself while the Vice-Pesident was destroying his political future.

Joe is drinking it as we speak, or type.

I don't see how that's comparable. Like saying, in '96, Jack Kemp won because he wasn't Dan Quayle.