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SleeplessinSoCal

(9,150 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:04 PM Feb 2016

why electing Hillary is more important than electing Obama in 08.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/26/why-electing-hillary-in-16-is-more-important-than-electing-obama-in-08.html?via=mobile&source=twitter

"The most famous woman in the world would walk through the White House with no entourage, casually chatting up junior staffers along the way. She was by far the most prepared, impressive person at every Cabinet meeting. She worked harder and logged more miles than anyone in the administration, including the president. And she’d spend large amounts of time and energy on things that offered no discernible benefit to her political future—saving elephants from ivory poachers, listening to the plight of female coffee farmers in Timor-Leste, defending LGBT rights in places like Uganda.

Most of all—and you hear this all the time from people who’ve worked for her—Hillary Clintonis uncommonly warm and thoughtful."
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why electing Hillary is more important than electing Obama in 08. (Original Post) SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 OP
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1
not mine. Obama Speechwriter Jon Favreau SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #2
His Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Feb 2016 #3
You didn't read it. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #4
Did Not Need To - HRC Will Be A Disaster For America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Feb 2016 #5
iif you didn't read it, there's no point in commenting themaguffin Feb 2016 #11
Did Not Need To - HRC Will Be A Disaster For America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Feb 2016 #12
yeah, saw your comment the first time. I replied to it. There's a point to the article themaguffin Feb 2016 #15
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16
yeah, you said that already several times. This thread is about an article that you didn't read. themaguffin Feb 2016 #18
I'm not sure that I would call it BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #6
Okay then. Here's the "most important" reason: Kall Feb 2016 #7
Important for US domination maybe loyalsister Feb 2016 #8
This criticism on abortion doesn't make any sense to me. StevieM Feb 2016 #9
First off, it's unnecessary most states have already done it loyalsister Feb 2016 #14
I love Hillary and I supported her in 2008 and again in 2016, but I don't agree. StevieM Feb 2016 #10
No, it's not, unless you like non-incremental, non-change alarimer Feb 2016 #13
Hillary is still Eleanor Roosevelt's gal. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #17

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
5. Did Not Need To - HRC Will Be A Disaster For America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

Will demand that their needs are met at the expense of the 99%.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
12. Did Not Need To - HRC Will Be A Disaster For America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

Will demand that their needs are met at the expense of the 99%.

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
6. I'm not sure that I would call it
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

"more important," even though I sincerely believe that she is not only the best prepared candidate of all in 2016, but also the one who will work the hardest for us all.

But for its symbolic value, her election is equally as important, IMO. At long, LONG last ...!

Kall

(615 posts)
7. Okay then. Here's the "most important" reason:
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016
Most of all—and you hear this all the time from people who’ve worked for her—Hillary Clinton is uncommonly warm and thoughtful. She surprises with birthday cakes. She calls when a grandparent passes away. She once rearranged her entire campaign schedule so a staffer could attend her daughter’s preschool graduation. Her husband charms by talking to you; Hillary does it by listening to you—not in a head-nodding, politician way; in a real person way.


Well, there you go. She surprises with birthday cakes. Forget single-payer opposition and the TPP "gold standard". And apparently I've been imagining all the times she's listened while nodding her head in a politician way.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. Important for US domination maybe
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

To this feminist it will be an important step backward for women to have a woman president who is open to compromising on abortion and stepped on women and children to get where she is.

The possibility that we would elect a woman who makes cold blooded statements about the death of a brutal dictator, claims to be supportive of black citizens but supports the racist institution that is mislabeled "criminal justice" and the death penalty.

I know some hard core RWers who are very nice to me. But, they will vote for Donald Trump against my interests.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
9. This criticism on abortion doesn't make any sense to me.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

Most Democrats support a third trimester abortion ban, with exceptions for the life and the health of the mother.

Almost all abortions take place in the first two trimesters, and the ones that don't almost always involve some type of health problem facing the mother or the fetus.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
14. First off, it's unnecessary most states have already done it
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

She is accepting the RW narrative that women are inclined to casually and callously have abortions at any time during a pregnancy rather than accepting the premise that women should be trusted with their own bodies.

With "legal, safe, and rare" she bought into the narrative that there is something inherently wrong, sad, tragic with making that decision.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
10. I love Hillary and I supported her in 2008 and again in 2016, but I don't agree.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

I think both elections are hugely important. It is always important to keep Republicans out of the White House, and always destructive when they get in.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
13. No, it's not, unless you like non-incremental, non-change
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

With a dash of warmongering thrown in for good measure. Which of course is what we got with Obama, but Hillary is more of a hawk, so expect more drone strikes and violations.

I've had it with "establishment" bullshit.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,150 posts)
17. Hillary is still Eleanor Roosevelt's gal.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:06 AM
Feb 2016

There is no doubt about that. Eleanor was vilified. She came from privilege yet was torn apart by others who thought they earned that privilege. Eleanor and Hillary have big hearts and love people. Especially those most in need. Hillary I believe will have us smiling again. And some of those she will help underestimate her now.

Every day so far this year she has proven herself of being completely equipped for the job and to me the most compassionate. She's a fighter clearly.

Eleanor never stopped fighting and is one of the 20th century's greatest Americans. I think it's past time for the next great American woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/why-hillary-dropped-eleanor-roosevelt-121444393196.html

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