2016 Postmortem
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(1,214 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)CNN has absolutely no fucking credibility.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)They are fox news lite 100 percent now.
theinquisitivechad
(322 posts)Do you truly believe none of these news organizations do what's in their monetary interest? The closest horse-race imaginable is what they want, if they can figure out a plausibly deniable way to get there.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Constant Negative News
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)CNN rigged their polls.
d_b
(7,463 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)No other poll is showing Ryan as a win.
CNN must have gotten a little of Boss Rove's ill gotten booty to "skew" the polls.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)cheriemedium59
(212 posts)smorkingapple
(827 posts)fugop
(1,828 posts)Credibility is shot. They got nothing. No ratings, no credibility, nothing. Good luck with that, idiots.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)That's why all the Repigs can talk about is Biden smiling too much.
Their man failed.
He got his ass handed to him by a scrappy old man.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/256594330205179904
Also...
CNN poll found 48% say Ryan won, 44% say Biden. Essentially a draw -- w/ lots of passion fm partisans on both sides. #cnndebate
by David_Gergen via twitter 10:24 PM
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)still_one
(92,280 posts)identify
(71 posts)Who cares what the Contortionist News Network thinks. All y'all saw what transpired tonight.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)What a crock of shit what traInwreck of a network. This CNN is officially worse than Fox new. I will NEVER watch them again EVER!
NightOwwl
(5,453 posts)is what they cooked, alright.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)And that debate is remembered as a debate Cheney won.
fugop
(1,828 posts)Because I remember Cheney beating Edwards. And assuming Cheney beat Edwards. And yet ... really? CNN said Edwards beat Cheney? That's crazy. And puts things in perspective. (I was so disappointed in that debate, because I really expected trial lawyer Edwards to whip Dr. Evil's ass.)
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)smorkingapple
(827 posts)You guys should know better...
identify
(71 posts)"something doesn't smell right"
doc03
(35,357 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Pretty obvious. CNN has zero credibility. Judging by my twitter feed, Biden killed Ryan.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)saying it was a draw. He tainted his audience.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)It is breaking news on their website.
animalcrackers
(93 posts)CNN is a joke, I have been watching the coverage (only one I can atm) and the whole coverage has been dedicated to the "tone", the amount of time each person talked, and how the candidates were percieved. At any moment I am expecting them to break out there fashion guy to talk about what they were wearing, fucking pathetic.... "news"
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Completely, totally, and UTTERLY without relevance anymore...
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)on their website. This is ridiculous, how can anyone argue that Ryan won that debate?
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Ask any reputable pollster, they will all tell you that online polling is some of the least reliable polling there is.
amborin
(16,631 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Crazy times. The dang liberal media.
Justice
(7,188 posts)budkin
(6,706 posts)What a fucking joke.
Alekei_Firebird
(320 posts)I know online polls are not scientific, but there's probably just as many Freepers swamping that poll as DUers and other liberal internet people, so it paints a somewhat accurate picture.
A 66-33 margin vs a 44-48 one is a stark contrast.
smorkingapple
(827 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Do you know?
Seriously. .there is such a large influx of new DUers, which is always good, but frankly the hand wringing and crying is getting on my nerves. Buck up. Seriously..
smorkingapple
(827 posts)The CBS poll showing Biden winning 50-31 was of undecided voters. The CNN poll showing a tie was of 'debate watchers.'
So that's why its closer...
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)desertduck
(213 posts)NightOwwl
(5,453 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)The important thing is I think Democrats will have become more enthusiastic after tonight. I think many felt let down and demoralized after the debate last week. If Obama can keep this momentum going through the next two debates, he may bring back many of those registered voters that for whatever reason were on the fence after last week. Hence the gap, Gallup was showing between RVs and LVs. It's all about closing that gap.
People really didn't know what to expect of the two tonight. Ryan has been relatively unknown to most people. Biden for much of the term has simply been known as that goofy old guy that puts his foot in the mouth a lot (not my opinion, but that's what one common perception is). I think he may have changed that tonight. I hope so. We'll see how things shape up. Even if it's not a huge poll swing, the important thing is that Romney doesn't start gaining especially in OH, VA, CO, and NV. I think this race is really down to those four states. I think FL is too corrupt. NC is far from being a tipping point state. And I really doubt Obama would lose WI while winning OH and/or VA.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Fuck you.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)on an otherwise horrible night for their side