2016 Postmortem

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts) Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:08 PM Feb 2016

Newsflash: Southern and Western states are more populous and representative of the Democratic Party!

I see how some people are belittling the Southern primaries, but they fail to realize and/or accept two truisms:

First, Southern and Western states are more populous and diverse, a true reflection of the Democratic Party electorate.

and

Second, NO Democratic Party candidate--I don't care if it's Jesus H. Christ himself--can win ANY nomination without the support of a sizable portion of minority voters or women.

As a child of the American South, I resent the bigotry. I resent the arrogance.

I ask that we respect all Democratic voters, whether a supporter of Bernie or Hillary supporter

...or neither.

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Newsflash: Southern and Western states are more populous and representative of the Democratic Party! (Original Post) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 OP

Sanders is scared shitless of diverse electorates. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1

Please justify this (as yet) baseless and unsubstantiated assertion. Thanks! JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #3

See results on Tuesday. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #4

That still wouldn't prove that he is personally afraid of them. So you have nothing. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #6

See historic African American margin in SC and where Sanders is right now. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #7

That means he is campaigning strategically, not "scared shitless". JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #9

You rubbed someone the wrong way Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #14

White under 25 voters don't vote in large numbers beachbumbob Feb 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #5

"I will be staying home in november and laugh when republicans sweep." wyldwolf Feb 2016 #8

He didn't call anybody racist ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #10

SHE!! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #11

Whoops! ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #13

"you just called those in midwest and northeast racists"... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #12

I'm not taking the advice of South Carolina Democrats. They haven't won a single statewide election. w4rma Feb 2016 #15

AH.... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #16

No that's not true about West Virginia or Oklahoma. There are statewide Democrats in both. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #18

You missed my point. The argument is that those states will vote Republican in the GENERAL! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #20

Sanders brings West Virginia back into play. Clinton loses it, completely. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #21

I don't agree with you but I do respect your position. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #23

No way WV is Republican all the way now (COAL) n/t doc03 Feb 2016 #29

Talk about tone-deaf. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #17

Yes. The Democratic establishment is completely tone deaf. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #19

And are completely red Doctor_J Feb 2016 #22

People said the same about Barack Obama in 2008 when he was winning these same Red states. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #25

Like SC, which last voted D in a GE in 1976? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #24

Again, the same happened to Obama in 2008 when he was winning Red states in the primaries. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #26

thanks for posting mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #27

Yes but southern and western state votes are totally meaningless in the presidential election doc03 Feb 2016 #28

LexVegas

(6,113 posts)

1. Sanders is scared shitless of diverse electorates. nt

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:09 PM

Feb 2016

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

3. Please justify this (as yet) baseless and unsubstantiated assertion. Thanks!

Reply to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:18 PM

Feb 2016

LexVegas

(6,113 posts)

4. See results on Tuesday. nt

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:18 PM

Feb 2016

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

6. That still wouldn't prove that he is personally afraid of them. So you have nothing. n/t

Reply to LexVegas (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:20 PM

Feb 2016

LexVegas

(6,113 posts)

7. See historic African American margin in SC and where Sanders is right now. nt

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:21 PM

Feb 2016

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

9. That means he is campaigning strategically, not "scared shitless".

Reply to LexVegas (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:22 PM

Feb 2016

Your post is a lie.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,291 posts)

14. You rubbed someone the wrong way

Reply to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:32 PM

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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)

2. White under 25 voters don't vote in large numbers

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:14 PM

Feb 2016

Never have...sanders steam is running out

Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

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wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)

8. "I will be staying home in november and laugh when republicans sweep."

Reply to Post removed (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:22 PM

Feb 2016

ismnotwasm

(42,020 posts)

10. He didn't call anybody racist

Reply to Post removed (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:22 PM

Feb 2016

Where did you get that from? Nor is he a definite supporter of either candidate.

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

11. SHE!! :)

Reply to ismnotwasm (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:29 PM

Feb 2016

ismnotwasm

(42,020 posts)

13. Whoops!

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:31 PM

Feb 2016

She didn't call anybody racist!!!

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

12. "you just called those in midwest and northeast racists"...

Reply to Post removed (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:30 PM

Feb 2016

I did??

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

15. I'm not taking the advice of South Carolina Democrats. They haven't won a single statewide election.

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:50 PM

Feb 2016

South Carolina Democratic voters are political losers. They probably sabotage their best politicians for not being neoliberal enough.

They have elected exactly zero statewide Democrats. They have 6 Republicans in the U.S. House and Clyburn is the *only* Democratic Representative.

Their state legislature is either Super Majority or near-Super Majority Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_House_of_Representatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Senate

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

16. AH....

Reply to w4rma (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:55 PM

Feb 2016

And neither have Democratic voters in West Virginia, Oklahoma and other Midwestern states that Bernie Sanders is projected to win. That doesn't mean that I'm writing off those Democratic voters in those states.

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

18. No that's not true about West Virginia or Oklahoma. There are statewide Democrats in both. (nt)

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:57 PM

Feb 2016

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

20. You missed my point. The argument is that those states will vote Republican in the GENERAL!

Reply to w4rma (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:01 PM

Feb 2016

That doesn't mean that the Democratic voters in those states should be written off like what people are saying about the Democrats in other Red states in the American South and Midwest.