2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRank and file Democrats did this. Period.
The Establishment of either party can choose their preferred candidate, but that does not guarantee actual voters.
Ordinary Democrats (who are not part of the 1% or Wall Street) are actually quite capable of making a decision on their own and choosing the best candidate. And in South Carolina, that choice was crystal clear.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)LexVegas
(6,107 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)We have two ties and two blowouts. Forward we go.
LexVegas
(6,107 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)one of the candidates lost.
It is Clinton 3 and Sanders 1.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Which states were tied?
Number23
(24,544 posts)Not in one. Even in NH, Clinton won the majority of the black vote.
Gothmog
(145,631 posts)malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Nor did I ever expect South Carolina to be a swing state for Barack Obama, John Kerry or Al Gore.
Nor would it be for your candidate.
Bill Clinton did a fall campaign stop in 1992 and he got booed at a race track.
And Mondale and Dukakis, were just pathetic.
Bernie has a fighting chance in Oklahoma, would he be contesting that state in the fall?
Delegates are delegates no matter where they come from.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...that bitter.
But, my God, is progressivism dead within this party as a whole. Very, very clear now.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Nobody that supports Hillary has any standing to call Republicans any of the above, because they are them.
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)If Hillary Clinton wins the primary and the general election I hope those who supported her in the primaries have the decency to join the military in order to support her wars she mostly will be engaging in.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)and the brown people that are on the business end of the bombs lives don't mean shit.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Does that give me the right to vote for her without ridicule from the party of purity?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)Hillary at 536 delegates to Sanders at 83. Is that correct? They're so often wrong, so I'm curious. If it's true, that's sad.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)The count as of now is H - 89, B - 63 pledged delegates, with 4 left to be allocated in SC.
Number23
(24,544 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-latest-clinton-scores-commanding-win-in-south-carolina/2016/02/27/e95f6704-ddae-11e5-8210-f0bd8de915f6_story.html
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Senators, governors, representatives, etc. Basically DNC VIPs. Hillary had them months or years ago. There are several hundred of them
Pledged delegates directly represent the outcome of the primary results because they are required to vote for a candidate in the convention.
TM99
(8,352 posts)23% of registered voters are Democrats.
She lost the 18-29 year olds and the Independents.
She won a victory in the primary, but for the general these numbers do not look good for her or the Democratic Party.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)They're voting for basically Henry Kissinger's pal who laughs maniacly when asked about bombing, murder, and death.
Rank and file Democrats clearly don't care about the same things I care about.
onecaliberal
(32,916 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)states, but the South and the West are where the bulk of Democrats live and vote.
That does not mean that they don't have a presence in the NE and Midwest; it's just that population density is highest in the South and West. These are facts. There's no need for people to get defensive about that.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Gonna be a loooooong primary.
Bernie's not going anywhere - as disappointing that has to be for HRC.
My advice to her is: keep workin those high dolla donors girlfriend,
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Or just stay home which is what the majority appear to be doing.
CdnExtraNational
(105 posts)Sanders lost white women 60-40 in SC, needs work.
Sanders may have won Hispanics in NV
It may be be too late for blacks to warm up to Sanders and the progressive platform.
But still room for hope for states with more favorable demographics.