Welcome back, BTW....

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to do with South Carolina.


Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 26.47 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

reading from a piece of paper...?

response. Doh!

I don't see Bernie saying anything about twenty seven dollars--I see a lady in a red suit.

Your video doesn't disprove what Kev is saying.

And what's with the WHITE paper snark? What are you doing, talking like that?

to be informed. Every other Hillary supporter responded to me WITHOUT checking out the video.

But you need to check yourself, the way you were telling people to go to 1:06 over and over again--how many other places did you post that incorrect notation?

He does not use the word smart, he uses the word BRILLIANT in that exchange, and says there's no way they will lose. I suspect someone was relying on a printout of the closed captions when they crafted that story.

I do agree that the context is not as the article presented it. But I also think I shouldn't have had to badger you repeatedly to get the correct citation, and further, I didn't appreciate your "white" comment towards me upthread.

I mean really?

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Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 26.47 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

As usual!

he should have told the cheering crowd that they were stupid

Except for Keith Ellison the DFL establishment is firmly behind Clinton.

How the caucuses go will depend on whose supporters show up and cast a vote.

Do you think it has some insidious meaning?

no concession speech in SC or anything...which isn't very gracious, to say the least

he's in MN you know that was he supposed to drop everything and run back to concede to Hillary?- He did publicly congratulate her though

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/sanders-congratulates-clinton-south-carolina-219904#ixzz41Q06yBMB

Bernie does the "this audience is smart" thing all the time. For you to imply it's racist is despicable. So long to you.

You see right thru this crap, and I guarantee you it wil be back tomorrow. It started the day he announced his campaign. It needs to be called out, and I'd really like your help. If you are willing. That would mean not using ignore this time. Thanks.

And I do not believe you even listened to his Minnesota speech. Because, if you had, you would not have responded the way you did.

This is the context….


Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 1:06 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

People are ignoring it. (Purposefully??)

It is purposefully

Because apparently, anyone who doesn't agree with them and Bernie must be dumb. In fact that meme seems to be floating around here quite a bit.

Well I'll tell you one thing - I'm smart enough to know why he's not winning.

was not a good time to bring up a comment like this to another crowd...it's almost as he's talking behind the back of SC voters.

not sure he is talking behind their back. He is attacking them full on in the face! His comments were in no way subtle. Tone deaf. He is clueless Kev.

But then of course you already knew that..

And suddenly jumped on the bandwagon.

Socialists are supposed to LEARN from the people they're trying to reach/teach.

But maybe it's different if you're running an election campaign.

There's no Bernie saying what you are saying he is saying.

Smart enough to know the only possible support her or the DNC will get from me is a vote. But she hasn't earned mine yet. I need to see transcripts. It's that simple.

Bernie should be telling people the smart thing to do is vote for him.

It has been explained....repeatedly...that this is a standard line at Bernie's event. There is no evil racist intent, yet people here keep falling for each ridiculous post by people with an obvious agenda.

There's no other explanation, is there?

I don't have any problem with the white voters who voted in Al Franken as Senator from that state.

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She knows damn well what the implication was, because she is a member of the group that keeps making it.

which, nevertheless, were not given in a public address.

Both were downright tacky, though

Did you watch the whole speech to see the context? Did you know that he uses the "you guys are so smart, we're going to win/there's no way we're going to lose!" line in almost every one of his stump speeches?

What are you really trying to imply with the OP?

that you lose by 48 points to your opponent in another state which, yes, has different demographics.

Is Bernie Sanders getting his talking points from Democratic Underground?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1350518

He does this in every stump speech. He asks the audience what the average campaign contribution is and they all yell "27 dollars!" (which has become something of a meme within the Sanders campaign) and he responds with "You guys are so smart, there's no way we can lose!"

How in the world are you projecting identity politics onto this and implying racism? Are you off your rocker?

I heard Bernie's joke verbatim at a few of his Iowa rallies.

Just as you said. He talks about how Clinton's campaign is funded by a Super Pac and he talks about how he doesn't have a Super Pac. Then he brings up his average donation. He asks the audience if they know what the average donation is and everyone screams out, "$27!" (or in my case, in Iowa, it was $26). Then, he tells the audience how smart they are and that he will win there for sure--if there is a good turnout.

This is SOP I imagine, in nearly every speech he does.

That didn't get hidden.

I will get a hide if I post more. I am going to cry, then I am going to bed.

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Thank you.

Sorry

Did you learn that behavior from Hillary?

Well that certainly is cause for "concern"

Downright sinister if you ask me

Because...you lost a race? No sale.

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Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 26:47 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

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And you know it, since you are a part of the crew that has been making it.

Bernie's massive wealth distribution plan : The Sander's Clause.

"Liberals? Bah Humbug!"

I watch most of Bernie's speeches and he often asks the crowd questions about his positions. When they answer correctly, he usually responds with something akin to "you guys are so brilliant/smart - there's no way we can lose!" I'd imagine that this is the context of the quote.

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Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 26.47 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 1:06 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

Delete this disgusting thread, OP.

Do you honestly think Baldwin would endorse someone like Hillary? My goodness, the delusion is real.

(that's for those of you that think that Sanders is the second coming of FDR)

He wasn't THAT keen on the Kennedys or LBJ (he liked Carter, though)

besides, I'm not even a Hillary voter

Again, why do I need to change my avatar before you delete this egregious thread?

of Bernie v. Hillary

Because it's a pathetic attempt, if it is. And after a cursory glance at your post history, I don't see Hillary's bullshit being called out by you. Certainly not to the degree that James would be, given the amount of dirt on her.

Perhaps you should focus on holding yourself to a particular standard before pushing that standard on others, yeah?

My avatar stays. Also, delete this shitty thread. Thanks.

Now correct yours and delete this shitty thread.

had something… um… interesting.

why would this be any different?

context. Do you still find it….interesting? Come on defend your OP in context to Bernie's actual words and interaction with the audience.


Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 1:06 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

There is no Bernie Sanders at 1:06.

There is a nervous lady reading from a paper in a red suit. Nothing is "proven."

The number is different in the cspan counter--but it ain't 1:06.

If anyone is to "blame" here, it's the person who wrote the article at Buzzfeed. That article is entirely ambiguous and leaves the statement (misquoted--he said brilliant, not smart) hanging out there without any context whatsoever.

I don't fault Kev, I fault Buzzfeed.

That took an out of context quote and implied something ridiculous about it? Without investigating further first?

Geesh, the spin is ridiculous in Hillaryland. I don't know how you guys keep your feet on the ground.

The conclusion Kev drew was appropriate given the material. And the conclusion he drew was that it was "interesting."

Go on, give it a click. Read it without introducing your after-knowledge of the actual video into your thinking.

The one to "blame" is the Buzzfeed writer who took the comment out of context and did not even quote it accurately.

This isn't about "spin" unless you're talking about the fact that Buzzfeed didn't paint a full picture.

If you want to cast some of those aspersions, I suggest you start there because that's the source.

Using terms like "Hillaryland" makes you look like what you're looking like to me right now. You acquit yourself poorly when you take that tack.

You're right, Buzzfeed didn't accurately report the entire quote. Media never does, and Kev should have known better than to take a small quote that was clearly out of context and insinuate nonsense with it. He IS to blame.

Again, I ask, what was "interesting" about Sanders' comment?

Buzzfeed and I will acknowledge that they didn't cover the remark accurately (it was BRILLIANT not SMART) nor was it in context at all.

So they were wrong. But given a lot of the dramatics that have come out of the campaign process of late, as analyzed and articulated by Charles Blow and others, his sensitivity is not misplaced. There's a lot of resentment bubbling up against black people for the crime of not feeling the Bern, and it's being expressed on the internet.

That kind of commentary does put one in a defensive position, understandably.

Read this, and maybe you will begin to take the point: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/11/opinion/campaign-stops/stop-bernie-splaining-to-black-voters.html

would make racist comments following his defeat in SC is totally preposterous and driven by nothing but pure ideological fervor. And this assumption was made in the midst of a huge victory for your side to boot! Sore winners indeed. Even now, when confronted about the ugliness on your side, you choose to deflect and pivot to specious nonsense about "Berniesplaining." And then you wonder why so many of us are going to refuse to join your side if Bernie loses.

Thanks for proving the point with absolutely no effort on my part.

What does that article, or "Berniesplaining" in general, have to do with the OP? And again, for the fourth or fifth time, what was "interesting" about Bernie's statement?

As an aside, those Baldwin excerpts in that article should be read by every Hillary supporter, particularly this one:

"'Our people' have functioned in this country for nearly a century as political weapons, the trump card up the enemies’ sleeve; anything promised Negroes at election time is also a threat leveled at the opposition; in the struggle for mastery the Negro is the pawn."

was a) brief and b) lacked context.

Given the way we are so often "Bernsplained" about how stupid we are to not vote for the Senator, it is an easy leap to assume the worst, which is what Kev did.

No one likes to be talked down to, told they are stupid, "low information," or regarded as "less than" for the choices they make.

Sanders is a fine man. Not all of his supporters live up to his ideals--and that is one point Charles Blow is making.

The fact that you couldn't take those simple points, despite having read the article I provided, is, dare I say, "interesting."

“There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

And it is innocuous enough not to warrant a hide. But look at all the faux outrage it generated...over nothing at all. I'd say: Mission Accomplished. Yet another dishonest "Bernie is racist" post.

It's good that Clinton's supporters have decided that she has all the support she needs to win the general election. Post's like the op don't win friends, but they sure do influence people.

What kind of conclusion should we come to that would make the OP "interesting"?

shows a nervous lady reading from a piece of paper, not Bernie Sanders talking to the crowd.

There's a nervous lady at the podium, reading from a piece of paper.

There's no Bernie answering anyone.

I'm not going to sit through an hour long lecture to find it, either. The person making the claim needs to tell us where in that thing Sanders actually says this so we can determine for ourselves.

... on so many levels, it's really quite astounding.

by copying Bernie. What's more astounding is the number of times she uses Obama's name and accomplishments. Bottom line: She not original nor genuine.

I said his tone-deafness is astounding.

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Bernie talks about his campaign contributions and says, "Do you know what our average campaign contribution is?" And the audience yells out, "27 dollars."

And Bernie laughs and says back, “There’s no way we are going to lose Minnesota,” Sanders said to the cheering crowd. “I can see that. You are just too smart.”

Check it out at the 26.47 mark.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?405457-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-rochester-minnesota

... and write out a treatise - in detail - about why I think BS is tone-deaf?

Yeah, that's gonna happen.