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THE DFL IS ACCUSED OF TRYING TO SQUEEZE OUT BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS IN MINNEAPOLIS
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"The facility won't be big enough," Sorenson says, "and I'm afraid supporters will be affected the most."
Sorenson charges the DFL's grand poobahs with contracting or at the very least, turning a blind eye to the number of caucus spots to keep the vote down, thus favoring Hillary Clinton. In a blog posted last week, Sorenson accused Minnesota DFL Party Chairman Ken Martin of complicity. He also skewered DNC super delegate Rick Stafford, a Clinton devotee and until last month, the Senate District 62 chair.
" had very turnout and participation in 2008s presidential preference balloting, voting overwhelmingly for Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton," wrote Sorenson. "By all apparent signs these precincts... will vote overwhelmingly for Bernie Sanders instead of Rick Staffords chosen candidate."
Sorenson believes the party is trying to squeeze out Sanders supporters.
http://www.citypages.com/news/the-dfl-is-accused-of-trying-to-squeeze-out-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-minneapolis-8039715
Just wondering if anyone has heard any updates on this???
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Any way to tip the scales in order to preserve the coronation must be used. After all, we already had the 'optics' of a tough primary fight, and it's time for Hillary to pivot back to centrist for the general, no more time left for parroting Bernie's positions for Hillary.
#BernieOrBust
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)I haven't heard anything other than this article, though. In 2008 the party PTB were all in for Hillary but Obama won the caucuses by a good margin. And they were packed. So it wouldn't surprise me if, in yet another Hillarian attempt at voter suppression, they'll try to find smaller venues so people will give up and go home. The location I have to caucus at is different from 2008, and it's larger (a school instead of a senior center), but maybe they will be trying to stuff more precincts into it and accomplish the same thing. We shall see...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)on what you see. Thanks Ocelot
jwirr
(39,215 posts)a petition? What can we do to make sure this does not happen?
Up here in Carlton County the primary is being held in the same place as years before and our country chair has been to at least one Bernie meeting that I want to.
It looks like it will go well for us up here.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)ITS IN ALL CAPS
dchill
(38,556 posts)DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...the democratic party will be fractured at precisely the time the republican party is... No way will sensible republican voters support this trump creep. Notice how rarely his numbers have made it into 40% territory...
...talk about piss poor leadership and missing a chance at controlling the political landscape the next decade or two...
This shit shows it's not really left vs right but top vs bottom. Hillary, Trump... Same difference. They both will lie or say anything to get what they want. Peas in a pod.
I will vote for the guy who represents respect, honesty, and caring for others, and in doing so, put his life on the line to take on the bankster class. I would be a coward to do otherwise based on fear of someone else.
I guess the "home of the brave" must have really just been a racist reference to those who were here before the rest of us...
...Because cowardice is a new American institution!
Vote scared!
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)We'll see what happens when that officially drops to 3, but Trump has had a good run so far and there's nothing to indicate he's going to slow down much.
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...haven't improved much.
There are many good republican voters (Americans) who care about their loved ones who are aghast at the thought of that pos becoming POTUS...
Support and promote dishonesty and you'll get what you deserve.
That's why we are in this mess to begin with...
I choose integrity.
Go Bernie!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)MineralMan
(146,336 posts)We'll have plenty of room at our caucus location. We'll be in the same place we were in 1968, where the last record turn out happened.
But here's another question that's puzzling to me. I've gotten half a dozen caucus reminder calls from the Clinton campaign and none from the Sanders campaign. I've gotten emails from the Clinton campaign, but none from the Sanders campaign.
I live in a precinct that turns out over 60% of DFLers for every election. I expect a good turnout at our caucus, too. Maybe the Sanders campaign is using some other strategy to turn out caucus-goers, but I have no idea what that'd be. My precinct is a working class neighborhood. Maybe the Sanders campaign is ignoring my Senate district and precinct. I don't know, but Hillary's team sure hasn't, and has been calling now for a week.
Where is the Sanders campaign in St. Paul, MN? We'll be caucusing on Tuesday. Will Sanders supporters show up? Does anyone know. Has anyone called people? They sure haven't called me. For the record: I remain neutral locally, because I am the DFL precinct chair for my precinct. I'll be caucusing for Hillary, but nobody here knows that. So, why am I getting calls only from Hillary's campaign. I haven't donated to her campaign, and there's nothing connecting me to it. The absence of contact from the Sanders campaign is very puzzling, I think.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)There have been reports of contact information being made available through democratic organizations to Hillary surrogates, and not the Bernie campaign... your comment seems to reaffirm that.
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Bernie has also been up on the Iron range lately - yaa know the economically depressed Iron range and making connection with the Native American community up there too and Hillary?
progree
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(Golden Valley)
I wouldn't even know there was a primary election going on if I were to judge from my phone or mail or email (other than email lists like moveon.org -- where I get the same mailings as everyone else in the country that subscribes to their list)
I used to contribute to the DFL regularly, but haven't in about 10 years. Also did to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) but stopped after getting endless phone calls (that was maybe 5 years ago).
But I have contributed large sums to Democratic candidates around the country in recent election years and subscribe to a half dozen progressive publications, and I am certainly on all kinds of lists that solicit my contributions / subscriptions / memberships -- e.g. other progressive publications, dozens of progressive causes, and some candidates. Same published landline phone number for over 30 years too.
I'm also on the email list for updates / news from both my state senator and state rep, who are both DFL.
FWIW
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Mister Ed
(5,944 posts)A doorknocker came working our street a couple of weeks ago. We thanked him for his hard work, and let him know that the three people in our household would be caucusing for Sanders. I filled out a card to that effect for him, and the card has been processed by the campaign and returned to me via US Mail.
I suspect that the Clinton campaign simply has far greater resources to draw on in getting out the vote. The best approach for Sanders supporters is going to be the grassroots approach. Each of his supporters needs to find a half-dozen friends who are also inclined to support him, and get them to the caucuses. That's the approach I'm taking.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)And they must know that you are a Precinct Chair for Clinton. What good would they have in calling you?
They have their lists prioritized as to which supporters to get in touch with. I am not sure if you were aware of this, but Clinton does it also.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)I'm the DFL precinct chair. I maintain complete neutrality during the primaries here. Click the link in my signature for the precinct website.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)they know that you are a Clinton supporter. Sheesh.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)Just a few days ago I got another one about the caucuses, and yesterday I got one about phone banking. I don't know if I've been called on the phone by either campaign because I don't answer my phone unless I recognize the number. But I can assure you that the Sanders campaign is very, very busy in Minnesota.
glinda
(14,807 posts)letter, Franken emails and a call I refused to answer from the DNC. All within like 4 days.All but the last one claimed that I am a supporter of hers. Not.
I regret that the MN DNC is working for her and her only. That is not their job imho. I don't like guilting, pushing and bullying and all of it has been. They have no right to co-opt my information for her. That alone bothers me to no end. They can go F themselves at this point.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)were held accountable would the ill-gotten gains have to be given back?
If the answer to any of these is "no", then of course they are doing it to cheat Bernie.
It's the same shit the Republicans pull when the short certain precincts of voting machines.
BainsBane
(53,074 posts)I don't know how this compares to previous years, but there are a large number of cacus sites, far too many for me to keep in my head, which is why I use the caucus finder when not working from a list that names a particular voter's caucus location.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)again, let alone America.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)brooklynite
(94,757 posts)Assuming there was any actual evidence, Parties are allowed to conduct their elections any way they want.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Iggo
(47,574 posts)That kinda shit would get them kicked off of DU, pronto!
Mister Ed
(5,944 posts)It seems to be based largely on the speculation of a single person. I would never rule out the possibility that the party establishment in an area would put their thumb on the scale, but I'd need to see some sort of evidence before I could be convinced.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)where we had pre offense arrests and anarchy with the cops again , I hope not but looks like they are trying to set that up.. that way if your arrested you can't vote
George II
(67,782 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Bernie supporters need to be ready with their cell phones out to photograph or take videos of any unusually long lines.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Also recommended. This kind of crap can lead to the death of a party.
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Duval
(4,280 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Isn't it a shame when the so-called Democrats start using the same kind of tactics as the Republicans, squeezing out the voters to win.