I'm rating him at well over five hours

The debates should be about policy visions and plans so we know why candidates support them and why they think their vision for America is best. Not about who won or lost. They should be honest and detailed and direct but the lies and dishonesty of the Romney/Lyin Ryan campaign just begs for correction and fact checking. Without the lies they have no solutions. Without the attacks they have no campaign. What a sorry bunch of hypocrites supported by low information voters and the greedy hordes of the wealthy.

Ryan and Romney just make stuff up and have an altered version of reality.

But she got off to a very poor start. Apparently you have to sit in the chair for awhile to understand the dynamics and make changes. I will give her credit for that and agree that she equipped herself well after that. I do think that way too much was being made of what happened in Libya. While it is tragic that 4 Americans lost their lives in that attack a single insider attack in Afghanistan has much the same result. Besides, do a compare and contrast with other attacks like the Cole, the two embassy's in Africa, the marines in Lebanon and 9/11 itself and it is clear that this was barely a bump in the road.

test for the position of vice president.

If you can ask Biden and Ryan how their religious faith affects their positions on abortion, why can't you ask Romney how his religious faith affects his positions on social issues like marriage, especially monogamy and gay marriage?

The Constitution prohibits a religious test for public office for a reason: wars have been fought over religion. Let's don't forget that. The Founding Fathers were quite aware of it.

Ryan had the perfect opportunity to make clear that his personal beliefs won't impact the professional decisions he imposes on all Americans. He failed.

Biden made his personal beliefs clear...and made it clear that he would never impose them on anybody else.

I only hope and pray that somebody asks Romney if his religious beliefs will impact his decisions. Forget monogamy and gay marriage. I want to know if his religious beliefs in the apocalypse and the White Horse Prophecy are behind his budget to increase military spending by 2 trillian dollars and are behind his bellicose talk about war in Iran.

so what??

I heard several people point out on lamestream media and in various blogs-- the VP debate
doesn't matter; it does NOT affect the POTUS election.

and that's why I watched it for ten minutes.. then turned it off and read a book.

stations that were calling it a draw?

Joe Biden and Martha Raddatz set the Bar HIGH! Thanks for your contribution, Mr Congressman.