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occupymybrain

(74 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:34 AM Oct 2012

This is how the Denver post broke down the VP Debates Fair and Balanced?

This is not how i see it but

Vice President Joe Biden has mangled a heaping helping of facts over the years. Despite being newer to presidential campaign politics, Republican Rep. Paul Ryan has already earned something of a reputation for taking flying leaps past reality. Here's a look at some of their claims in Thursday's debate:

BIDEN, on whether U.S. should have beefed up security at the U.S. Consulate in Libya before the deadly terrorist attack there: "We weren't told they wanted more security there."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at a congressional hearing this week. Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security, told lawmakers she refused requests for more security in Benghazi, saying the department wanted to train Libyans to protect the consulate. "Yes, sir, I said personally I would not support it," she said. Eric Nordstrom, who was the top security official in Libya earlier this year, testified that he was criticized for seeking more security. He said conversations he had with people in Washington led him to believe that it was "abundantly clear we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident. How thin does the ice have to get before someone falls through?"

RYAN: "We should not have called Bashar Assad a reformer when he was turning his Russian-provided guns on his own people.

THE FACTS: Neither President Barack Obama nor anyone else in his administration ever considered the Syrian president a "reformer." The oft-repeated charge stems from an interview Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton gave in March 2011 noting that "many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer." She did not endorse that view.

BIDEN: "We went out and rescued General Motors."

THE FACTS: Actually, the auto bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under President George W. Bush. The Obama administration continued and expanded it.

RYAN: "We cannot allow Iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability. Now, let's take a look at where we've gone — come from. When Barack Obama was elected, they had enough fissile material — nuclear material — to make one bomb. Now they have enough for five. They're racing toward a nuclear weapon. They're four years closer toward a nuclear weapons capability."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim is misleading. Iran isn't believed to have produced any of the highly enriched uranium needed to produce even one nuclear weapon, let alone five. That point isn't even disputed by Israel, whose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored the world at the United Nations last month to create a "red line" at enrichment above 20 percent.

BIDEN, when asked who would pay more taxes in Obama's second term: "People making a million dollars or more."

THE FACTS: Obama's proposed tax increase reaches farther down the income ladder than millionaires. He wants to roll back Bush-era tax cuts for individuals making over $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.



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This is how the Denver post broke down the VP Debates Fair and Balanced? (Original Post) occupymybrain Oct 2012 OP
Isn't this word-for-word the NPR "fact-checking" analysis? theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #1
hahahaha it is that's funny occupymybrain Oct 2012 #2

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
1. Isn't this word-for-word the NPR "fact-checking" analysis?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:46 AM
Oct 2012

You can access it online. Their fact-checking team has issues. They said that Romney never wanted Detroit to go bankrupt, wen he wrote an opinion piece on it and we HAVE TAPE of him saying, "That's exactly what I said - Let Detroit go bankrupt." Some serious spinning there.

occupymybrain

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2. hahahaha it is that's funny
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:01 AM
Oct 2012

shows how good the Denver Post is at journalism. If its not good for Romney and Ryan it not news.

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