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BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:01 PM Feb 2016

Plutocrat warns the top 0.01% the pitchforks are coming

A rich guy who was the first outside investor in Amazon.com understands what's going on. Most of this could be in Bernie's stump speech. He talks about how a $15 an hour has worked in cities like Seattle and San Francisco and says that rich people don't create jobs, middle income people with money in their pockets do because they create demand for products and services.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014

"At the same time that people like you and me are thriving beyond the dreams of any plutocrats in history, the rest of the country—the 99.99 percent—is lagging far behind. The divide between the haves and have-nots is getting worse really, really fast. In 1980, the top 1 percent controlled about 8 percent of U.S. national income. The bottom 50 percent shared about 18 percent. Today the top 1 percent share about 20 percent; the bottom 50 percent, just 12 percent.

But the problem isn’t that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day. Our country is rapidly becoming less a capitalist society and more a feudal society. Unless our policies change dramatically, the middle class will disappear, and we will be back to late 18th-century France. Before the revolution.

And so I have a message for my fellow filthy rich, for all of us who live in our gated bubble worlds: Wake up, people. It won’t last.

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when."

Bernie gets this. Hillary does not.


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Plutocrat warns the top 0.01% the pitchforks are coming (Original Post) BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 OP
Plutocrats have worried about it since there were plutocrats. Octafish Feb 2016 #1
Of course, Napoleon said that before the invention of television nxylas Feb 2016 #26
Excellent observation. Octafish Feb 2016 #43
I reference Nick Hanauer often. He was in Robert Reich's movie WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #2
Thanks for posting this BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #5
Love the "we are not job creators, we destroy jobs" theme WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #9
Here is a longer version mrdmk Feb 2016 #39
And it's so powerful coming from Hanauer hifiguy Feb 2016 #45
He really does put it out there in two ways mrdmk Mar 2016 #47
I actually have a pitchfork. I'll have my brother etch on it 'this machine kills fascists'. Let me roguevalley Feb 2016 #3
Sounds like a sound quote for any kind of pokey, stabby, or slashy implement. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #6
Pokey, Stabby and Slashy. Those are three of Snow White's dwarfs, right? bulloney Feb 2016 #16
Yup, followed by Slicey, Dicey, Breaky, and oh yeah. Burny. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #19
Thumbs up! Petrushka Feb 2016 #29
I got me a torch and a pitchfork, and I know how to use 'em. Zorra Feb 2016 #4
Brilliant essay. Francis Booth Feb 2016 #31
Why do you think the rich are building bunkers and panic rooms. NWCorona Feb 2016 #7
Let them. We're the ones who know how to drive bulldozers and excavators. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #35
😂 NWCorona Feb 2016 #36
We used to shake our heads at countries artislife Feb 2016 #8
Agreed. Svafa Feb 2016 #11
Simon Johnson compared the U.S. to the banana republics and emerging economy oligarchies BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #12
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #10
It's a delicate balance for those with power and money. They are not stupid. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #13
I believe it's no coincidence that the US has growing militarized police forces... KansDem Feb 2016 #14
And as Edward Snowden revealed BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #17
Is it any wonder that the Clintonistas scream that he's a traitor? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #20
From the first time I watched and listened to Snowden BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #22
Same. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #24
Yep! Duval Feb 2016 #37
Absolutely agree. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #23
They exist for one reason - hifiguy Feb 2016 #32
More of us than them. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #38
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #15
"They got a lot of forks ’n’ knives... And they gotta cut somethin’" FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #18
Thank you for the Bob Dylan. Petrushka Feb 2016 #30
K & K. Good for Mark Hanauer who's been speaking out for several years. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #21
I have had mine ready for years Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #25
"Let them eat cake" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #27
I think the French had the right idea... John Poet Feb 2016 #28
A guillotine in front of the Goldman building hifiguy Feb 2016 #34
Huge changes are coming. AI and Robots will replace humans. ErikJ Feb 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #40
Greed makes people arrogant and stupid. sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #41
Just as sure as the sun rises in the east , an uprising is coming . This filthy Fascist State will geretogo Feb 2016 #42
How Do They Do It? colsohlibgal Feb 2016 #44
Back in the 1970s and 1980s, Akio Morita, the founder of Sony, hifiguy Feb 2016 #46

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Plutocrats have worried about it since there were plutocrats.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:06 PM
Feb 2016

“Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.” ― Napoléon Bonaparte

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
26. Of course, Napoleon said that before the invention of television
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

(Inspired by the Calvin & Hobbes strip about religion being the opium of the masses)

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
43. Excellent observation.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

John Mayall and Friends painted the picture for me before Frank Zappa and Don Pardo blew up Saturday Night Live...



Television Eye

Television Eye,
hypnotizing me in my bed.
I’ve got no time to sleep,
my eyes are turning bloodshot red.
You’ve got me in your eye,
staring at your many channeled head.

Television Eye,
before you got me hooked,
I used to read.
Now you’re by my bedside,
shining empty lights on me.
‘Round the clock commercials,
Trying to sell me things I’ll never need.

It’s hard to turn you on,
even though you’ve never turned me on.
Trying to slow my thinking,
I feel my mind is nearly gone.
Television Eye,
You’ve had me in your power too long.

I’ve got to be crazy or something.
It’s just ridiculous.
Why am I wasting time watching you?
I’ve got better things to do.
I’ve got to leave…

-- John Mayall



That was Johnny Almond on sax. Geez time goes by fast.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
5. Thanks for posting this
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

Very good video. I wish Bernie could get Hanauer on his team. He might turn on the light bulb for some of the lower and middle class people who have bought into the "job creator" and "all taxes are bad" rhetoric. This is a strong message coming from a guy who has made boatloads of money as a capitalist.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
39. Here is a longer version
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
45. And it's so powerful coming from Hanauer
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

because he seems like a consummate Regular Joe who just happened to hit the jackpot.

Simple, declarative English sentences filled with truth.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
47. He really does put it out there in two ways
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

1) He knows exactly what he is talking about

2) He does not mince words, his speech is too the point

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
3. I actually have a pitchfork. I'll have my brother etch on it 'this machine kills fascists'. Let me
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

know when and where.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
8. We used to shake our heads at countries
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

That had a small wealthy class surrounded by a large poverty class. We called them things like Banana Republics, etc.

We are Argentina just before the money crashed and burned.

I cannot believe that all the candidates on the republican side and h are all for it. And we just may elect one of them. I cannot see me being able to do that.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
12. Simon Johnson compared the U.S. to the banana republics and emerging economy oligarchies
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

that he used to deal with in times of economic crisis when he was at the IMF in this 2009 article "The Quiet Coup".

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/05/the-quiet-coup/307364/

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. It's a delicate balance for those with power and money. They are not stupid.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:34 PM
Feb 2016

They do know from time to time the people rise up when too much has been taken from them. So those in power take, and take, and take a little more and when we start to show some resistance they offer a few more scraps to shut us up. The question is will they offer enough scraps to allow the people enough to actually live off of?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
14. I believe it's no coincidence that the US has growing militarized police forces...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:34 PM
Feb 2016

...who have repeatedly demonstrated that they have advanced weapons and aren't hesitant to use them.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
20. Is it any wonder that the Clintonistas scream that he's a traitor?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

Naw, it's cause he pulled the rug up and showed us the roaches.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
23. Absolutely agree.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:46 PM
Feb 2016

Those militarized police forces aren't militarized because of gang violence or the terrorist threat.

There are, however, less than a million badge-and-gun-carrying LEOs in this country. The math doesn't favor them, if things actually do get pushed too far.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. They exist for one reason -
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

the tenth-percenters do not trust the uniformed military, who come from the lower economic strata, to turn on the people when the shit hits the fan.

The kkkops, many of whom are borderline sociopath power/control freaks, will gleefully mow down the people to protect their tenth-percenter owners. but there are a lot more of us than them, and the average kkkop is none too bright.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,022 posts)
18. "They got a lot of forks ’n’ knives... And they gotta cut somethin’"
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

Now, a very great man once said
That some people rob you with a fountain pen
It didn’t take too long to find out
Just what he was talkin’ about
A lot of people don’t have much food on their table
But they got a lot of forks ’n’ knives
And they gotta cut somethin’

-- Bob Dylan Talkin New York 1962

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
27. "Let them eat cake"
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

Greedy rich people have NEVER conceded one nickel without a fight
to the finish, where the people demand it, and win.

So let's not kid ourselves, our Plutocrats are NEVER going to concede ANY thing to a
President who has enriched themselves with corporate "donations" and "speaking fees".

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
28. I think the French had the right idea...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016

and since Hillary's for capital punishment, I guess she'd approve.





 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. A guillotine in front of the Goldman building
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

would be a fine start. It could probably be kept very busy for a while.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
33. Huge changes are coming. AI and Robots will replace humans.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

I think we are getting a taste of it now whats to come. Manufacturing and highly skilled labor will become a thing of the past. Even doctors will be replaced by AI and robot surgery. And the owners will get even richer if something radical isnt done like a generous guaranteed min income for the bottom 90% of the population.

Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
42. Just as sure as the sun rises in the east , an uprising is coming . This filthy Fascist State will
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

be brought down and democracy will take hold and freedom and equity for all .

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
44. How Do They Do It?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

I couldn't do it, could not be a rich CEO and pay my workers peanuts.

And yes, they had best find some empathy sooner rather than later.


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
46. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, Akio Morita, the founder of Sony,
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

never took a salary of greater than $300,000 per year. He lived in the same apartment in Tokyo for 40 years. He thought ostentations displays of wealth were vulgar and inappropriate, not to mention unfair to the people who built Sony into the giant it was even then.

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