2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOn the eve of the primary: In Texas, Clinton leads Sanders 61% to 33%...
And if that difference holds, delegates awarded would be something like:
Clinton - 142
Sanders - 80
Note that the 62 delegate pick-up would be more than ALL OF THE DELEGATES available in Vermont and Oklahoma combined (16 and 38 respectively)
Sid
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)This race is over save for the formalities.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)You know what? That sort of asshole comment is worth the hide to respond to properly:
Try not to injure yourself lurching for the alert button, fuckwit.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)The larger the gap between Clinton and Sanders in the number of pledged delegates, the more difficult it will be for Sanders to catch up. At some point, given the polling, it will no longer be possible. Probably that won't happen tomorrow, but may well happen by the end of March.
Numbers are numbers. Once the delegate proportions are established, they will not change.
I'm not counting the superdelegates, but many others are. If you do that, Hillary already has a huge delegate lead. In fact, it is:
539 to 90 at this point if you add the unpledged delegates who have stated their preference to the pledged delegates.
Source: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D
It's not looking good for Sanders, I think, and will look worse on Wednesday morning.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)sort of puts it into perspective
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)There's no getting around it. It's the complicated system we use. It's not going to be changed in 2016, so there it is.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)if Hillary already has the delegates in the bag-the vote is really nothing more than a dog and pony show to make it appear legit
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)There's still a numerical chance for Sanders. The primaries will continue. I'll be watching the delegate count to see how it's all going.
In November, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Clintons superdelegates will jump ship before the convention if Clinton starts losing the big delegate states like California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania and others after March 1st.
It's hardly in the bag for her.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)We'll see on Wednesday.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)But, she's hoping to get at least a 100 delegate lead or that will be a pretty bad Tuesday for her.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)on Wednesday.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)That's my point.
You don't agree?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)It's hardly in the bag for her.
Res ipsa loquitur
California - Clinton + 14
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html
New York- Clinton + 21
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democratic_presidential_primary-4221.html
Illinois - Clinton + 19
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/il/illinois_democratic_presidential_primary-5567.html
Pennsylvania - Clinton +19
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary-4249.html
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Every one of whom will go to the GOP candidate in November...
Has the obvious problem with the Hillary strategy sunk in yet?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)will automatically vote for Hilary
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Also, do you really think Bernie could turn Texas blue? I don't think he could, and I'm speaking as a former native, with lots of family still there.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Hillary, if nominated, isn't winning a single Texas elector in November. Hillary's path to the nomination leads, in significant part, through states she'll lose in the GE. This is a huge, huge issue.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Texas has a lot of Democrats who deserve to be represented in the primary process. Sorry if you don't think so.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)a new state like California might help her in the long run. Blue collar Latinos are angry at the Clintons's over NAFTA, TPP and Hillary's part in the privatization of the national oil industry of Mexico while Sec. of State.
okasha
(11,573 posts)with Bernie Sanders' supporters, especially Susan Sarandon, over their shameful treatment of Dolores Huerta. Looking at today's Emerson polls, it's going to cost him 10-15 percentage points here. Look for everythinng south of San Abtonio to be solid Hillary..
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)PS.. thats not me!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Good strategy, Sandersians.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... for Hillary, her campaign, and her supporters I mean.
upperatmos
(8 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Milliesmom
(493 posts)Bernie has been fighting his entire life, we need to keep standing with him, even after the election if he loses, he can get things done with all his supporters behind him.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)So there!
LOL!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Is the Great White North all aflutter over Hillary?