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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:27 PM Feb 2016

On the eve of the primary: In Texas, Clinton leads Sanders 61% to 33%...

And if that difference holds, delegates awarded would be something like:

Clinton - 142
Sanders - 80


Note that the 62 delegate pick-up would be more than ALL OF THE DELEGATES available in Vermont and Oklahoma combined (16 and 38 respectively)

Sid

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On the eve of the primary: In Texas, Clinton leads Sanders 61% to 33%... (Original Post) SidDithers Feb 2016 OP
K & R Iliyah Feb 2016 #1
The math is getting more and more difficult for Sanders KingFlorez Feb 2016 #2
Not if u use that GOP Math the BernBots are trained in,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2016 #22
Ah, so Bernie supporters are GOP-trained robots now? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #43
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #3
Math. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #4
Delegate count is everything. MineralMan Feb 2016 #5
Thank you for saying that delegates mean everything azurnoir Feb 2016 #7
That's the reality in presidential primaries. MineralMan Feb 2016 #8
just like the electoral collage azurnoir Feb 2016 #12
She hasn't reached a majority of delegates yet. MineralMan Feb 2016 #13
Clinton may only have a 100 earned delegate lead after Tuesday. imagine2015 Feb 2016 #28
Or she may have a 350 delegate lead. MineralMan Feb 2016 #32
And it's just as likely that Sanders will have a 200 earned delegate lead. imagine2015 Feb 2016 #34
No, it's not equally likely, as you'll see MineralMan Feb 2016 #37
I think both are equally unlikely. imagine2015 Feb 2016 #41
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #33
where the superdelegates are concerned it's more quid pro quo azurnoir Feb 2016 #42
Delegates are a reflection of voters. Zynx Feb 2016 #35
And Texas has 38 electors! Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #6
No it hasn't the assumption is that those who voted for Obama '08/'12 azurnoir Feb 2016 #9
Right now we're dealing with the Primary. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #15
Yeah we should go with the guy who only gets half of Hillary. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #16
Um...half of zero is zero. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #17
What's your point? Zynx Feb 2016 #36
Texas Delegates are for Castro, but Clinton already has a big lead here so choosing a VP from DhhD Feb 2016 #38
Right now, Texas Hispanics are furious okasha Feb 2016 #40
... Lucinda Feb 2016 #10
Wow. That is a big spread. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #11
Wow.. that's a big enchilada! DCBob Feb 2016 #14
I'm sure yelling "Where are the TRANSCRIPTS?" over and over again will close that gap by tomorrow alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #18
This is most encouraging... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #19
Yeah. Like Lloyd Blankfein, Henry Kissinger, Citigroup, JPMorgan, Boeing,...... upperatmos Feb 2016 #25
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Feb 2016 #31
The bigger the better! Alfresco Feb 2016 #20
Do not give up, do not feel there is no use,Please! Milliesmom Feb 2016 #21
... closeupready Feb 2016 #23
The 80 delegate pick-up by Sanders would be more than ALL OF THE DELEGATES in Vermont & Oklahoma! imagine2015 Feb 2016 #24
Excited, Sid? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #26
Source? datguy_6 Feb 2016 #27
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #29
Wow - that must mean she'll sweep Texas in the general . . . right? Vinca Feb 2016 #30
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #39
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
43. Ah, so Bernie supporters are GOP-trained robots now?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

You know what? That sort of asshole comment is worth the hide to respond to properly:



Try not to injure yourself lurching for the alert button, fuckwit.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
5. Delegate count is everything.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

The larger the gap between Clinton and Sanders in the number of pledged delegates, the more difficult it will be for Sanders to catch up. At some point, given the polling, it will no longer be possible. Probably that won't happen tomorrow, but may well happen by the end of March.

Numbers are numbers. Once the delegate proportions are established, they will not change.

I'm not counting the superdelegates, but many others are. If you do that, Hillary already has a huge delegate lead. In fact, it is:
539 to 90 at this point if you add the unpledged delegates who have stated their preference to the pledged delegates.

Source: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D

It's not looking good for Sanders, I think, and will look worse on Wednesday morning.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
8. That's the reality in presidential primaries.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

There's no getting around it. It's the complicated system we use. It's not going to be changed in 2016, so there it is.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. just like the electoral collage
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:46 PM
Feb 2016

if Hillary already has the delegates in the bag-the vote is really nothing more than a dog and pony show to make it appear legit

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
13. She hasn't reached a majority of delegates yet.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:47 PM
Feb 2016

There's still a numerical chance for Sanders. The primaries will continue. I'll be watching the delegate count to see how it's all going.

In November, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
28. Clinton may only have a 100 earned delegate lead after Tuesday.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

Clintons superdelegates will jump ship before the convention if Clinton starts losing the big delegate states like California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania and others after March 1st.

It's hardly in the bag for her.
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
34. And it's just as likely that Sanders will have a 200 earned delegate lead.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

But, she's hoping to get at least a 100 delegate lead or that will be a pretty bad Tuesday for her.
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. And Texas has 38 electors!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

Every one of whom will go to the GOP candidate in November...

Has the obvious problem with the Hillary strategy sunk in yet?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. No it hasn't the assumption is that those who voted for Obama '08/'12
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

will automatically vote for Hilary

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
15. Right now we're dealing with the Primary.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

Also, do you really think Bernie could turn Texas blue? I don't think he could, and I'm speaking as a former native, with lots of family still there.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. Um...half of zero is zero.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary, if nominated, isn't winning a single Texas elector in November. Hillary's path to the nomination leads, in significant part, through states she'll lose in the GE. This is a huge, huge issue.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
36. What's your point?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

Texas has a lot of Democrats who deserve to be represented in the primary process. Sorry if you don't think so.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
38. Texas Delegates are for Castro, but Clinton already has a big lead here so choosing a VP from
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

a new state like California might help her in the long run. Blue collar Latinos are angry at the Clintons's over NAFTA, TPP and Hillary's part in the privatization of the national oil industry of Mexico while Sec. of State.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
40. Right now, Texas Hispanics are furious
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016

with Bernie Sanders' supporters, especially Susan Sarandon, over their shameful treatment of Dolores Huerta. Looking at today's Emerson polls, it's going to cost him 10-15 percentage points here. Look for everythinng south of San Abtonio to be solid Hillary..

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
18. I'm sure yelling "Where are the TRANSCRIPTS?" over and over again will close that gap by tomorrow
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

Good strategy, Sandersians.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
21. Do not give up, do not feel there is no use,Please!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:14 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie has been fighting his entire life, we need to keep standing with him, even after the election if he loses, he can get things done with all his supporters behind him.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
24. The 80 delegate pick-up by Sanders would be more than ALL OF THE DELEGATES in Vermont & Oklahoma!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016

So there!

LOL!
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