and 2004 especially. Lately, it has gone practically "woo-woo," IMO.

I stopped reading that site some time ago. Won't even give them a hit by clicking on it.

Masks off, apparently.

Will this be alerted? Probably. Never you mind.

out of the White House. I would definitely say that is a risk aversion vote. I do not vote based on fear. I vote based on which candidate will actually fight for my family. That candidate is Bernie.

than the likelihood the change being offer will be successful ... AND at a much higher cost.

If your first principle as an activist is contempt for your target constituency, you've already lost your "revolution."

it is hitting that group ... you know, the one's that have contempt for the members of the tradition Democratic coalitions.

Sorry!

in fact, hitting his target demographic ... Bernie fans.

how many of them write on DU. It's not the first time I've heard this. The first time was on DU.

n/t

5 or 6 more paragraphs of the same rant.

The 4 graphs Blue Tires pulled are representative.

I thought it was satire at first, but sadly it is not

I am very hopeful that tomorrow's results are a sharp upper cut that will give Clinton a great delegate edge. That would be the perfect revenge for this Stockholm Syndrome crap.

Stockholm OP on DU, which targeted African Americans and LGBT specifically and which was the work of one single poster. Not only did I write extensive criticisms of that racist, bigoted piece of shit post and the man who crafted it so did several other Sanders supporters. That's just a fact, it's part of the DU record. I was furious and still think that person is a ratfucker.
But when you smear me, who was attacked by that post and who very strenuously objected to it, using the very OP that attacked me you are behaving exactly and precisely like the man who crafted the Stockholm Syndrome fury on DU. It is the same fucking thing. There is no difference.

There was a poster here who was a 'Hillary supporter' who spent a year bashing at LGBT and at Bernie Sanders who was eventually PPR'd for posting incredibly antisemitic material after the shootings in Paris. So took pot shots at Sanders, then banned for being anti Jewish. While spouting praises for Hillary. Now, personally my choice is not to decide that such a raving bigot represents anyone but themselves, not all Hillary supporters. You are making another choice, and I don't care for it. I think it is as I said, much the same creature that the Stockholm post was in the first place. It's generalize and label, divide and make other. Not being an idiot, I do not fall for that.

But I could pretend that I do, and paint you all with banned hate mongers and a year's worth of quotes that will make you want to puke. I could do a bang up job of it too. Just something to think about. Are you ready to own every thing ever said by some poster claiming to be 'for Hillary'? That's how you are treating me, and it is very tempting to do that same sort of Brock job to those around here who are doing this. Many of them have years of very dubious postings about LGBT and others, they are hypocrites on parade and they could be so easily OP'd into Shame City.

But I figure some jerk posting on the internet is responsible for themselves, I do not take a word they say at face value so if they say 'Hillary' or 'Bernie' I still don't know what their actual objective is. 'I support Hillary and the gays lost the last election for us' does not really strike me as what a real Hillary supporter would say.

Stockholm OP guy, he knows I support Bernie, he knows I'm gay. He also has adversarial relationships with others on DU. Much of that was very personal.

I'm tired of Hillary folks blaming all Bernie supporters for that shit. It is wrong, it is nasty and it is simply not supported by the facts.

The overwhelming majority of HRC supporters know lots of Bernie's supporters in person outside DU, so we KNOW that not all Bernie supporters believe this crap or even spout it.

Those Bernie supporters I know personally believe much as I do, that we have two great candidates and, while we each may prefer one over the other now, we have LOTS more in common than we don't.

I'm so tired of this too. But I will be the first to admit, there are Bernie supporters who do the same thing to Hillary supporters. They will jump on anything ugly they find and accuse all Hillary supporters of that behavior.

I think it needs to be called out no matter which side does it.

And has been banned many times here.

I was merely saying that it's disappointing that this is what is in our discourse these days.

I don't get it, why did you post that whole thing just to denounce it in the last line.
I kind of agree with it. . . sorry.
It puzzles me too. Maybe someone can explain to me how someone can fight for your cause for you and your family and another person can support someone who is fighting against you and your family.
And when push comes to shove, you abandon the guy who fought for your cause and go for the one who was against you.
Bernie joined the cause of Civil rights and has been a steady advocate for over 50 years. Hillary campaigned for a guy who wanted to repeal the Civil Rights law and wanted to re-segregate the south.
How do you vote for Hillary? Makes no sense to a rational mind.

When the truth is known it does damage to Hillary, so her supporters want to make is seem like a bad thing to put the record out there. She lobbied for 3 strikes you're out, and for tougher on crime, etc.

"kind of agree with it".

Change can be scary and it's easier just to stay with Tide sometimes.

But feel free to spend your last dollar on the Miracle Cleaner from the infomercial. It might work!

I still stayed with Tide though. Over time brands change and then a new one becomes the norm, like political beliefs. Bernie may be the off brand now but what he's talking about is the future of the Democratic Party. He just makes more sense when he talks about millionaires, billionaires, and our corrupt political system.

I haven't bought that overpriced product in decades ...

A fitting analogy, I think ...

No wonder Dems don't win often enough, we cannabilize our own. How dare he talk about AA women like that, I want to slap him hard in the face and I have never done that in my life.

..... Make more of them.

That seems to be the strategy. SMH.

they are badly mistaken. Appalling tripe.

think that the Clintons are so great...when they have done absolutely nothing for the community but offer up lip service.

It's a fake image.

It's a fraud image.

And it's a phony image.

They have done nothing.

...clipping from the article;

know about Bernie's political activist history, hell, he cut his teeth on civil rights struggles, getting arrested for his viewpoints and positions in his first year of college, over half a century of fighting for peace and justice for all the people.

And proving the point.

that was a long time ago. He has spend the past 50 years never having to deal with black voters on a daily basis. He is a good man but relationships take time and effort. In Bernie's case it was too little too late.

proves my point. Hillary has spend decades forging a relationship with the black community. Bernie spend months.

find time to examine the issues and vote for their own self interests.
Having no interest in the issues or no desire to learn about them is not a very positive quality to have.

Outside of the political world, most people had no knowledge of him until he started campaigning. On the other hand, people know the Clintons and obviously support them. If they didn't, they would have voted for Sanders.

All their articles are reductive "No one is progressive enough except Sanders and Kucinich everyone else is evil" nonsense.

I haven't heard that word since the Soviet Union collapsed. Dude needs to go back to his former job as a physicist and leave political analysis to others.

Treating with condescension and insults one of the most faithful Democratic demographics is sure as heck not going to win Sanders any votes within that community.

that the US is very conservative and blacks are among the most conservative demographic in the Democratic Party, so it's no surprise they would want Clinton over Sanders, it's no Stockholm Syndrome.

Sanders mainly appeals to liberals, and they're a minority in the Democraric Party. And even then, many liberals don't think he's electable, so will vote for Clinton because they're scared of Republicans.

America's ideology is far too conservative for a candidate like Sanders to win yet, even in the Democratic Party. Some people expect minorities to be the most ideologically liberal, but that's not true at all, and just shows they see politics in a very simplified way, much less demographics.