Why should it surprise you that our first Black president would have to more to earn small gains than a (lying) white guy? I think most African Americans will tell you that more is always expected of them if they want to get ahead.

But Huffington Post does have a lot of good Joe stuff up today.

I think

...Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Ed Shultz and Rachel Maddow are it. Didn't you know that? Others that should be are wussing out.

And Maher is only on once a wk.

And new stories

At least in the sense of conservative media. They won't go to the mat for liberals and never have. It's why Democrats have such a tough time steering the narrative on something. The liberals, especially the MSNBC liberals, are so content on trying to seem unbiased that they give away too much all the time.

I picked this up during the last two debates.

1) After the first debate, every Republican talking head was quick to say how awful Obama did and how amazing Romney did. Romney was was aggressive, Obama was soft. Romney was a fighter, Obama was weak. The conservatives were quick to tell us that this was a huge, huge win for Romney. Liberals? They were happy to reinforce that feeling. You had idiots like Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz completely throw the President under the bus in the moments after the debate.

2) After the second, every Republican talking head was quick to hit on how Biden-Ryan tied ... but that Biden was rude. His interrupting, something Romney did the entire night last week, was seen as cocky and unneeded. His talking over the moderator, something Romney did too, was just outright classless. They realized their guy got creamed ... but instead of freaking out and screaming it from the mountain tops, like liberals love to do, they rallied around him and went into attack mode. Liberals? They were quick to praise Biden's toughness, but they can't help but also praise Ryan in some ways. They just can't help do but do it!

MSNBC has jumped the shark. People like Ed, Rachel and Chris Matthews are about as worthless as tits on a bull and have totally shown their true colors these past two weeks. They're no friend of the left and will do everything in their power, even if inadvertently, to carry water for Romney-Ryan.

But why should anyone be surprised? Liberals don't know how to win. They haven't since the 60s. This is a group that just is a losing ideology and every time you think they're going to start pulling it out, they fumble and give the game away. We are the Detroit Lions of politics. You want want to know why conservatism has dominated the U.S. since the 1980s? It's because they've figured out how to work the system in their favor ... we're still trying to be fair and reasonable in the way we assess candidates.

Instead of calling out Romney for his lies and his aggressive, rude attitude, the liberal media decided to hammer Obama until he was a bloody pulp. What good did that do? You don't see Republicans doing that to Paul Ryan, because they get it ... in order to win, you've got to manipulate the narrative.

I wish like hell liberals would take some lessons from conservatives. But alas, they won't. I'm sure Rachel will be on tonight to tell us how Biden did well, but that Ryan did well too.

She's so good at playing the liberal card until we need it the most. Then she, like everyone else at MSNBC outside Sharpton, disappear.

Conservatives have far more money, and they have bought all the media.

We have a few Pacifica stations and a few people can get Current TV on cable.
That's it.

And even Pacifica is constantly being infiltrated and disrupted and a lot of their shows are as full of disinfo as NPR. Apart from the internet there basically aren't any liberal media.

Where are the right wing pundits crying like Tweety did over Ryan's crappiness? They don't exist.

The Mighty Slime Machine is the only reason RobMe/Lyin are within 20 points.

Hello

I am new to this forum. I totally agree - the media coverage of the election is not particularly objective, and it makes me angry a lot of the time.

I work on media freedom, and have recently written an article about how the US election coverage does not represent women's voices adequately: http://freespeechdebate.com/en/2012/10/the-silenced-sex-womens-voices-in-us-election-coverage/. Please do check it out.

This is of course not only the case with women's voices. I feel that most groups are not appropriately represented... I think without giving a stage to all groups of people it is difficult to get the full picture. I would like to know what others think about this, and how to fix it.

Was gleefully retweeting comments from conservatives throughout the debate. Not one liberal commentator was retrweeted. We knew he was a GOP shill, but c'mon, at least make it appear your aren't.

do with liberal in the sense you are using the word.

I understand annoyance and frustration with the state of affairs but am somewhat nonplussed at the expectation of something different from what we have beyond the concept that in a functioning journalistic environment there would be "referees on the field" but that is an idea that doesn't jibe with the reality of corporate interest.

The hope and expectation that the system we allow will somehow consistently act out side its inherent nature is silly.

Sharpton was bragging about Biden's big win today.