2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama up 52/45 in RAS poll of Michigan
consistent with the latest Detroit News Poll.
Friday, October 12, 2012
President Obama continues to earn over 50% of the vote in Michigan, but his lead over Mitt Romney has narrowed a bit this month.
The latest Ramussen Reports national telephone survey finds 52% of Likely Voters in Michigan support the president, while 45% give their vote to Romney. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and another one percent (1%) is undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/michigan/election_2012_michigan_president
If the president holds onto (as polling so far indictates) Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa in the Midwest plus wins Ohio and one other swing state he wins. Note, too, this is prior to the VP debate and I think a lot of Dems who saw Biden last night will be refocused on the campaign.
Hang on. Don't feel good. The trolls will be here any minute to crap on this thread. But for now: WOO!
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)as the weeks go by and Biden's debate performance and what I do believe will be a much sharper Obama next week--I expect these 'blue states' to begin to extend to double digits for the president.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Godless in Seattle
(120 posts)Obama is actually leading 60-40!
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)I don't care what some right leaning polls said last week. If Obama is defending Michigan and Pennsylvania, he is going to get landslided out of office. But you don't need polls for this. The Romney campaign already tipped their hand. They aren't advertising in Michigan, they pulled staff out of Pennsylvania to move them to Ohio. They know they aren't winning those states.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)maryellen99
(3,789 posts)the last one I saw was the one where Romney sang God Bless America which was in late July/early august.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)VA, WI, FL, NH
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Virginia depends on the poll.
TexasCPA
(527 posts)A 7 point Ras lead is really 12-14 points.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)thats a 9.5% drop. if he drops nationally that much its over.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)writes3000
(4,734 posts)You're comparing apples to oranges but you know that. Romney claims to be from Michigan. His father made an impact there. Of course, Romney is going to poll better than McCain there. In fact, Republicans claimed this state would be in play. It's not.
But why am I wasting time talking to someone who's mission isn't anything other than the very obvious trolling, trolling, trolling?
fugop
(1,828 posts)Unless we change the way the electoral college works, a win is a win is a win.
Michigan is, after all, one of Romney's home states. Maybe there's some residual good feelings that ... what am I saying. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Michigan is gone. No soup for you here, Romney!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)by kos
The current numbers are from the TPM polling composite. The four-year-ago numbers are from exactly four years ago, or Oct. 3, 2008. The final '08 margina new column on this chartis the final vote results.
As some of you might quickly notice, Missouri is back on the chart! That 4.7-point Romney advantage feels big and difficult to overcome, right? Well, Romney faces equally daunting or bigger deficits in five of the remaining contested states. No one really thinks Missouri will turn Blue this year, and no one is spending money on the presidential race. So the fact that it is closer than states that Romney is spending millions in is pretty darn hilarious.
It also gives Romney another state in which he's above the 45sone of just two in this list of 10 states plus the national composite.
North Carolina, by the way, was a slight Obama lead yesterday in the composite, until a new Rasmussen poll this morning turned it Red again. As it's pretty obvious at this point, the state will come down to GOTV.
Every time I plug new numbers into this chart for this feature, I think, "Lookit that, Romney is going backwards again!" I decided to see if my perception was reality, so I compared Romney's level of support in the polling composite to what he was receiving a little over a month ago:
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139351/-Battleground-polling-snapshot-Romney-regresses
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)but I guess that is you.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)We must focus on red leaning swing states like CO, OH, NH, VA, and FL. PA is safe. We must guard WI too.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)in Michigan and Pennsylvania--so far that is not the case. I don't think it will be either. He also needs to keep the consistent lead he has had for months in Ohio, which is looking like a firewall state for him.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Interesting note: Gravis has Obama only (+2) this week in Michigan. We already know their numbers are suspect, but this puts it into specific mathematical context. That is 5 points less than Rasmussen.
What's interesting to know is, in the other states where Gravis shows Romney doing well, is it also adding 5 points onto his numbers?
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The seem to be a pack of sleazy fax spammers. Not sure what the "mathematical" context of 7-2 would supposedly buy you if they're making the numbers up out of whole cloth, which seems utterly likely.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Two polls, this one and Detroit News have Obama up by 7 which is probably more accurate at this point.