I never thought Hillary would surpass 2008.

But I think Democratic voters are more likely to turn out for a contest between ___ and Trump than for the primary.

I hope so, anyway.

And that is another reason we should ignore that state's vote. They don't deserve any recognition. 87% of the Dem voters flat out ignored democracy and their chance to participate..

Gee, I wonder what might be wrong in SC?

If you are actually interested in improving our nation, wouldn't it be helpful to understand the goals and policy proposals of the candidate you are rejecting?

In this case Bernie has never claimed he was going to make this some sort of wave election.

He has repeatedly stated that he will not match the 2008 turnout.

So what is he saying and what is his goal?

Take a look at this table:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/06/u-s-voter-turnout-trails-most-developed-countries/

Note the consistency of turnout as percentage of registered voters vs turnout as percentage of all eligible voters. Central to the Sander's platform is expanding the electorate by enacting, automatic registration of all people when they reach voting age. He may not get it all but the goal is universal democracy. Is that wrong?

That is what will enable the overthrow of oligarchy and the restoration of democracy - it must happen before anything else can go forward.

Do you happen to know Hillary's plan for our citizen's lack of access to voting? Look at how low our registration numbers are; do you think that is an accident or that it isn't a known feature of our election system?

They proved it.

I am beginning to wonder if Hillary people believe in democracy.

In 2008 Obama and Clinton was running, in 2016 Clinton and Sanders ran, the two candidates are not getting the turnout Obama received.

There is no correlation between primary turnout and general election performance. Fact is, Democrats have long assumed (correctly) that Clinton would be the nominee, so there has been less impetus to vote than in the GOP civil war. In fact, the lower-than-expected turnout is an indictment on the Sanders campaign, because despite all the talk of revolution, fact is, he hasn’t inspired casual Democrats to turn out in any real numbers.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/29/1492734/-Democrats-South-Carolina-and-wrapping-up-our-primary-season

Who needs facts?

...heh.

Bad news for Clinton is even worse news for Sanders because at least she gets a hell of a lot more of the black vote than Sanders.

...Hillary, Bernie and the Democratic Party. Turnout for Democrats has been down in every state, not just South Carolina. Hopefully, the presence of Trump on the other side will draw Democrats to the polls. Also, prominent Republicans will be staying home in disgust.

Surely you jest.Trump is an existential threat to PoC. Don't make the mistake of comparing primary turn out to the general.

The LGBTQ community will show up ... Latinos will show up ... the entire (President) Obama coalition will show up ... The question is, as I asked before, will Bernie supporters?

and "progressives", whether staying home Bernie fans, or those that come out to vote, will forever, have sealed their fate within organized partisan politics.

My bet is there will be far fewer Bernie-PUMAS/Bernie:Tantrums than DU represents.

Wasn't me. No sir.

You don't believe in the democratic process?

You think Hillary should have just been crowned?

Where'd you go? Not like you to slink away from a question. Come back and lets discuss democracy.

numbers jump up.

Bill Clinton did that "Secretary of Explaining Stuff" speech at the convention in 2012, and then went out on the stump drumming up enthusiasm for Obama in the run up to the election.

Once POTUS doesn't have to mind his tongue and we have a nominee, he'll be able to help generate some voter excitement.

This has down ticket disaster written all over it.

That turnout is way up over 2000 and 2004.

And despite the massive primary numbers in 2008, it didn't affect the generals nearly as much.