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FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:45 PM Feb 2016

**FALSE ELECTION NEWS** Showing up on FaceBook and elsewhere

***FALSE NEWS ALERT***

NO, ELIZABETH WARREN HAS NOT ENDORSED BERNIE SANDERS OR ANYONE ELSE.


Some folks are spreading a FRAUDULENT NEWS ARTICLE right before the vote tomorrow!
The Clonezone is a site where you can make up your own news.

So if some Bernie Folks have been posting this article on the FB page,
IT IS NOT LEGIT, and so make sure to QUIT!

It may end up that Elizabeth Warren ends up doing the exact opposite if it doesn't stop.
I don't think she appreciates others putting words that she did not speak into her Mouth!

Additionally, no one should be so desperate in trying to influence undecided voters with this
"A la Cruz" nonsense.

If you haven't seen this news on the Internet or on Television, its because it hasn't happened!
If you aren't checking your sources, prior to posting, then perhaps you should.

It is currently being investigated to find out who put the article together and started circulating it,
as it is unethical and fraudulent to have done so, especially the day before Super Tuesday!



Here is what did happen....
WHY SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN HASN'T ENDORSED A CANDIDATE YET

No, Sen. Elizabeth Warren still hasn’t endorsed a candidate in the Democratic presidential primary.

But that hasn’t stopped supporters of both Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders from spinning the Massachusetts senator’s silence to their liking. In the absence of a stamp of approval for either candidate from the Senate’s progressive prophet, other voices have filled the vacuum.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/02/29/why-sen-elizabeth-warren-hasn-endorsed-candidate-yet/HxV4QTVxo8hvEAjNDCTXNK/story.html
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**FALSE ELECTION NEWS** Showing up on FaceBook and elsewhere (Original Post) FrenchieCat Feb 2016 OP
We've been stepping on it as fast as it appears. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #1
I'm tweeting it out... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #3
you're right, whoever is doing this is an AH. It is pretty low to play on people's emotions with still_one Mar 2016 #76
Most likely NOT a Sanders supporter, but, a GOP trick to foster a greater split of the Dem party. blm Mar 2016 #80
+1 emulatorloo Mar 2016 #83
I was going to make a fake news story about Rubio dropping and supporting Clinton snooper2 Mar 2016 #89
I would hope they'd go viral! nt Svafa Mar 2016 #103
If something looks too good to be true, it usually is. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #2
Some folks want it to be true.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #4
Desire often leads to self delusion. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #7
And some folks want to fuck people over by making them believe it is true. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #39
Kicking for visability! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #5
It started popping up on FB, via Bernie Supporters FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #11
I am surprised! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #17
Give me a break. Sanders supporters would be excited and more likely to repost. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #35
I didn't say who did it, because I don't know.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #44
These kind of antics only hurt the candidates. Please stop it! Jitter65 Feb 2016 #6
Wow, how desperate! R B Garr Feb 2016 #8
So for those Bernie Folks who are posting this article IT IS NOT LEGIT, and so make sure to QUIT! UglyGreed Feb 2016 #9
When you haven't heard it on the news, or the radio, or can't find it anywhere else on the internet FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #12
You are just using this to slander it seems UglyGreed Feb 2016 #13
What an offensive post that is. Unrec. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #36
I'm still trying to figure out what that was all about Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #50
This is a rigged social media campaign itsrobert Feb 2016 #10
This has "DIRTY TRICKS" all over it. Attributing it to Sanders supporters is groundless slander Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #14
Just taking advantage it seems UglyGreed Feb 2016 #16
Persons who I know showing this on their FB page still FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #18
groundless slanter is this fake news story... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #20
I think I made myself quite clear.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #21
Human nature being what it is, of course some Bernie supporters will pass it on in FB BEFORE Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #24
Hence this OP..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #33
Yep. It'll go back to the HRC campaign just like photogate did. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2016 #41
BTW where were you when UglyGreed Feb 2016 #15
I wasn't posting them on my facebook.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #19
Well I really don't think UglyGreed Feb 2016 #26
I'm not saying you did anything.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #29
Actually you did. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #37
I'm speaking of an incident on Facebook... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #42
Do you realize that Capehart asked Tad Devine of Bernie's campaign about that photo, and R B Garr Feb 2016 #30
I was not involved in that.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #34
I was responding to UglyGreed who brought that up as if it was relevant, R B Garr Mar 2016 #62
The source was the photographer and capehart never SwampG8r Mar 2016 #63
LOL, Sanders is the ultimate source, and by extension his campaign. R B Garr Mar 2016 #64
Spin spin spin SwampG8r Mar 2016 #66
The spin is trying to make Bernie a victim of something his own campaign was negligent in R B Garr Mar 2016 #70
Even had devine said yes it is capeharts responsibility as a journalist to SwampG8r Mar 2016 #73
You obviously didn't watch the clip from MSNBC where Tad Devine was asked about R B Garr Mar 2016 #75
You are acting as if this farce UglyGreed Mar 2016 #65
It's obvious you didn't watch the MSNBC clip that was the crux of this. Just admit it. R B Garr Mar 2016 #69
Please provide proof of this being UglyGreed Mar 2016 #71
LMAO! Just what I thought. You didn't watch the MSNBC clip from the year 2016 R B Garr Mar 2016 #72
Get out with the stupid little interview UglyGreed Mar 2016 #74
LMAO again! You obviously didn't watch the MSNBC clip with Tad Devine and Capehart R B Garr Mar 2016 #78
I don't care about the interview UglyGreed Mar 2016 #79
Yes, it's obvious you would rather talk about anything else but the MSNBC interview which R B Garr Mar 2016 #81
You are making yourself look UglyGreed Mar 2016 #87
Your anti-Hillary spam has nothing to do with the MSNBC clip from the year 2016 R B Garr Mar 2016 #91
BTW you must have trouble reading........ UglyGreed Mar 2016 #82
omg, who would read that ridiculous spam meant to obfuscate and nothing else. R B Garr Mar 2016 #84
Clinton: Aliens may have visited us already UglyGreed Mar 2016 #90
More anti-Hillary spam totally unrelated to this thread or the fraud perpetrated R B Garr Mar 2016 #92
It is an interview UglyGreed Mar 2016 #93
Here are more government conspiracies for your enjoyment: R B Garr Mar 2016 #94
There ya go again UglyGreed Mar 2016 #95
There was no name calling. LOL. R B Garr Mar 2016 #97
. UglyGreed Mar 2016 #98
And it's apparent you didn't watch the MSNBC interview with Bernie's campaign R B Garr Mar 2016 #99
Again with this stupid interview UglyGreed Mar 2016 #100
The 2016 MSNBC interview clearly shows Bernie's campaign rep unable to answer a question R B Garr Mar 2016 #101
. UglyGreed Mar 2016 #102
Well, this is what I said many posts again. You obviously didn't watch the 2016 clip R B Garr Mar 2016 #104
. UglyGreed Mar 2016 #105
I can repeat what I saw between Tad Devine and Capehart, but you can't R B Garr Mar 2016 #106
Repeating falsehoods to fit your agenda UglyGreed Mar 2016 #107
What transpired between Bernie's campaign rep happened before this Danny Lyon R B Garr Mar 2016 #108
Buh Bye!!! UglyGreed Mar 2016 #110
You admit that you don't watch pertinent interviews between two parties, but you R B Garr Mar 2016 #112
Fake Website Tricks Thousands Into Believing Elizabeth Warren Endorsed Bernie Sanders UglyGreed Mar 2016 #109
LMAO! CloneZone lets FAKE USERS post R B Garr Mar 2016 #111
Frenchie, I hope you know you won't find me peddling this crap. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #22
I agree.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #25
When antics like this happen, I think of David Brock and Mark Penn Samantha Feb 2016 #23
Why would anyone in the Clinton campaign want to influence undecideds by announcing via FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #27
To fuck with Bernie supporters.To embarrass the and humble them. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #40
It is too soon prior to the vote for that to work that way, IMO. FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #48
I think they are pretty sure the information will be quickly labeled a plant Samantha Mar 2016 #51
Bingo. Straight out of a Brock play book. n/t FourScore Feb 2016 #45
No, straight out of Rove/American Crossroads playbook emulatorloo Mar 2016 #85
BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAINST OTHERS IS JUST AS BAD AS LYING - DO YOU THINK SANDERS SANCTIONED THIS? Impedimentus Feb 2016 #28
THEN ANSWER THIS..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #32
Did you also put upa notice that clearly states that IF SOME Hillary supporters are posting this, FourScore Mar 2016 #47
What I witnessed was this.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #49
oh good grief! I got better things to do. n/t FourScore Mar 2016 #52
Me too.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #54
That was a really shitty thing to do rbrnmw Feb 2016 #31
I'm just amazed on how I become the target by "some"... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #55
Oh I didn't me you I meant whoever put that fake shit out rbrnmw Mar 2016 #57
No...I know.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #58
yeah some folks like their conspiracies rbrnmw Mar 2016 #60
They really think a Hillary supporter would do that? rbrnmw Mar 2016 #59
I was one of the people who posted it on Facebook . . . BUT . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #38
That's different.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #43
I post it all over, but I also use that disclaimer. seaotter Feb 2016 #46
Does it allow for a translation? FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #53
Naughty, naughty! Petrushka Mar 2016 #56
Try Njerep. It's only spoken by 4 people in Nigeria. The youngest speaker is 60. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #68
Kicking! FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #61
Yep,I've seen it multiple times on Facebook. sufrommich Mar 2016 #67
ha ha---well DU is a riversedge Mar 2016 #77
Hi- a proud "BERNIE FOLK" Here - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #86
RoveCo strikes again emulatorloo Mar 2016 #88
Sounds more like something... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #96

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
1. We've been stepping on it as fast as it appears.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:46 PM
Feb 2016

I'm sure there will be others, directed at other candidates. Whoever does this is an asshole.

still_one

(92,194 posts)
76. you're right, whoever is doing this is an AH. It is pretty low to play on people's emotions with
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

false information

blm

(113,063 posts)
80. Most likely NOT a Sanders supporter, but, a GOP trick to foster a greater split of the Dem party.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

They've been doing it for years - even here at DU.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
89. I was going to make a fake news story about Rubio dropping and supporting Clinton
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

And then another one where Melania Trump does an interview where she has been seeing Bill O'Reilly on the side and O'Reilly is putting his name in for President.


This could be a blast!

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
4. Some folks want it to be true....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

but it is a fraud.

Maybe it will happen...who knows,
the point is that isn't happened as of yet!

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
35. Give me a break. Sanders supporters would be excited and more likely to repost.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

That doesn't mean anyone connected with Sanders' campaign or his supporters created the fraud.

Talk about deceitful..

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
44. I didn't say who did it, because I don't know....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:56 PM
Feb 2016

"Some Folks" is pretty generic, IMO!

But why am I defending myself?
That's kinda of weird.....

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
6. These kind of antics only hurt the candidates. Please stop it!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

Hope they can find out who did it. Maybe some GOPers.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
8. Wow, how desperate!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:54 PM
Feb 2016

These people should be exposed for the fraud. Desperados!

Thanks for spreading the word about this.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
9. So for those Bernie Folks who are posting this article IT IS NOT LEGIT, and so make sure to QUIT!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:54 PM
Feb 2016

Why are you acting as if people are posting this farce to make Elizabeth Warren to endorse Bernie? That makes no sense at all and you probably knew that already. IMO Those people are being fooled just as I was earlier today. I'm tired of people implying that those who support Sanders are dishonest, Bernie Bros or whatever garbage which is laid at our feet. Like Hillary would say...

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
12. When you haven't heard it on the news, or the radio, or can't find it anywhere else on the internet
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

Feigning ignorance is not an innocent move. Sorry!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
13. You are just using this to slander it seems
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

so enjoy yourself and have fun with it as long as you can.........

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
50. I'm still trying to figure out what that was all about
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:03 AM
Mar 2016

Is that one of those "guilt by Bernibro association" posts, or one of those "ignorance of an Internet meme is no excuse" posts

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
14. This has "DIRTY TRICKS" all over it. Attributing it to Sanders supporters is groundless slander
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

until the investigation is complete.

That is all.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
18. Persons who I know showing this on their FB page still
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

Know that it is a fake....
and yet, it is still there.

Someone posted the Boston Globe article from this morning that there was no endorsement yet...
was replied to by original poster stating that..."Well that was at 5:00am this morning"...
So I don't know who did it, but I do know who is posting it, without even double checking at least
one other source,
as one might with something this important.

So common sense should tell us something.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
20. groundless slanter is this fake news story...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:16 PM
Feb 2016

I say " if some Bernie Folks have been posting this article on the FB page

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
21. I think I made myself quite clear....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

If you ain't done it, then it ain't you...

if some Bernie Folks have been posting this article on the FB page

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
24. Human nature being what it is, of course some Bernie supporters will pass it on in FB BEFORE
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

they find out its fake. Further, some dumb shits might pass it on even after knowing its fake thinking they might be able to make it happen somehow??? Anyway, there are enough dumb shits in this country to support any bullshit that comes along.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
15. BTW where were you when
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:07 PM
Feb 2016

the Washington post was spreading false info about the Bernie Sanders photo? If you spoke up about that then feel free if not then you should rethink your thread in bold here......SMH!!!!!

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
19. I wasn't posting them on my facebook....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:14 PM
Feb 2016

There was one photo that was not of him at a Selma March
that he never attended, otherwise, I didn't pay attention
to the other stuff. I saw some pics that looked like him to me
where he is sitting with a bunch of young White activist getting
reading for a sit in. I didn't participate in those arguments at all.
sorry.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
26. Well I really don't think
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

Supporters of Bernie Sanders are trying to trick anyone. We have been hoping for Elizabeth Warren to endorse Bernie for months and I admit I was taken in on the scam. I deleted my thread as soon as I realized I made the mistake. I see many other sites around the net have been victims of this hoax and it has been deleted promptly. IDK but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I judge people by their individual actions never by groups or anything else.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
29. I'm not saying you did anything....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

But you are only one of many...so neither one of us know as of now.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
42. I'm speaking of an incident on Facebook...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:51 PM
Feb 2016

with a Bernie Supporter...


And are you upset with me?
Why, because I brought attention to this?
cause I don't know why you wouldn't me more upset with whomever originated it,
rather than me!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
30. Do you realize that Capehart asked Tad Devine of Bernie's campaign about that photo, and
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

Tad said he didn't know if it was Bernie or not. But Capehart did go to the source and ask. Did you even watch the MSNBC segment with Capehart and Chris Matthews and Bill di Blassio? Campaigns are required to supply basic information all the time -- that's their job. Tad could have said he would find out about the pic and get back with the correct info. Instead he blew it off, so shame on him. In fact, Matthews was saying during that segment that it was just a question of authenticity, and if the other side was misrepresenting, they would hear about it.

LOL that you would even try to equate two entirely different issues.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
34. I was not involved in that....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

and therefore don't know what happen,
and don't have any comments to make on it.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
62. I was responding to UglyGreed who brought that up as if it was relevant,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:31 AM
Mar 2016

but it's not.

Thanks for this thread! We'll see if these people are exposed for doing this.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
63. The source was the photographer and capehart never
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:44 AM
Mar 2016

"Went to the source"
the source blew his blatent lies.up.and capehart never aknowledged hjs lies.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
64. LOL, Sanders is the ultimate source, and by extension his campaign.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:16 AM
Mar 2016

Why would someone chase down a photographer when Sanders himself could have been professional and followed up on a question posed to his campaign like the rest of the world has managed to do. That's what campaigning is about -- answering questions and being accountable.

And other "sources" who were also there, multiple sources, are what started this line of questioning. So there were varying "sources" if you want to go that route. So blame it on Tad Devine's unprofessionalism, as he was asked by Capehart and gave the wrong information.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
66. Spin spin spin
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:39 AM
Mar 2016

Capehart never tried to verify it and ran witb what he hoped was true and when jt blew up he has refused to retract
Capehart is an unprofessional.journalist and a liar.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
70. The spin is trying to make Bernie a victim of something his own campaign was negligent in
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:53 AM
Mar 2016

addressing.

It's obvious you didn't watch the MSNBC clip when Capehart asked Tad Devine about authenticating the picture. Even diBlassio was shaking his head at the nonchalance and unprofessionalism from Devine. It was a simple question. Just answer it or say you'll find out and get back to the questioner. Even Matthews was saying it wasn't a big deal or a big story, but it went to "authenticity", which it does.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
73. Even had devine said yes it is capeharts responsibility as a journalist to
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

Independently confirm facts not yet in evidence
Thats journalism 101
The photographer was not asked and was available for.comment
Capehart refuses a retraction
Capehart is a liar

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
75. You obviously didn't watch the clip from MSNBC where Tad Devine was asked about
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

the picture but he blew it off. No wonder Capehart refuses a retraction. Tad Devine should be apologizing to him for his unprofessionalism.

The fact is that the so-called "sources" were also people who knew the photograph's subject, and they didn't think it was properly identified. So Capehart went to the campaign's rep who was present during a national cable news program to represent Bernie's campaign. What is the problem with Sanders answering a question about whether or not it was him in the picture. Good Lord! Just answer it. His campaign is asked a question, just be professional and answer it.

Not to mention, Matthews also said it wasn't much of a story, but it went to "authenticity." Which it does. Who else should reporters go to besides Bernie's campaign for "authenticity." How ridiculous that his campaign can't even vouch for a picture without all this drama. But the drama and conspiracies were good for fund raising....WINK.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
65. You are acting as if this farce
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:29 AM
Mar 2016

has been proven to come from the Bernie Sanders camp or his supporters when it makes no sense that it would help the campaign. BTW it has been proven by the photographer who took the picture. If Capehart was a true journalist he would do some research but of course his connections with the Hillary campaign most likely clouded his judgement............

In 2016, Capehart published a false accusation against presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, accusing the Sanders campaign of lying about the veracity of a photograph showing Sanders speaking at a civil rights sit-in in the 1960's. Capehart's piece was ultimately debunked, though he would neither apologize nor admit its falsehood. Some commentators noted the closeness of Capehart's partner to the Clinton campaign as a motivating factor for the apparent smear campaign. [13]

So please lets be real here.........

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
69. It's obvious you didn't watch the MSNBC clip that was the crux of this. Just admit it.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:50 AM
Mar 2016

This is just desperation to make Capehart the scapegoat for a very simple question that could have been handled much more professionally by Tad Devine. If you watched Tad Devine in that interview, you would know exactly that it was no CONSPIRACY, it was just an unprofessional attitude from Bernie's own campaign rep that is at issue. Even Matthews was saying it was not a big deal or story, it just went to "authenticity." And it does. If Clinton was letting a picture of her that was questioned by her former colleagues go unauthenticated, she would be pilloried for it.

I have to laugh at your dramatic editorializing of something so simple as a rep for Bernie just answering a question. Bernie was no victim. And more hilarity that it's all connected to some big set-up. Months before there was another story about the picture which was also unanswered by Bernie's campaign. I suppose the next conspiracy is that Bruce Rappaport's widow and his former roommates are all in on this Clinton connection conspiracy. Ugh, how lame.

In any event, none of this so-called picturegate is in any way equal to the fraud perpetrated on a United States Senator by claiming to have her endorsement. It's not remotely equivalent, and it's a shame you used this as a phony accusation against this OP.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
71. Please provide proof of this being
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:11 AM
Mar 2016

sent out by the Sanders campaign and not some sort of David Brock correct the record BS. You are showing your bias and you wear it well.


Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill in Bid to Aid Justice Thomas
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: June 27, 2001
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The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.

David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.

Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas. The article, in the August issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr. Brock's new book, ''Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative'' (Crown Publishers), which is scheduled to be published in September.

Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms. Hill, he said he did everything he could to ''ruin Hill's credibility,'' using ''virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.''

''I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist supporters without ever interviewing any of them,'' he continued.

In the last few years, Mr. Brock has disavowed his conservative activism, and criticized his own and his former colleagues' attacks on their main targets, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

In the Talk article, Mr. Brock said the incident involving the intermediary occurred in 1994 as he was preparing a review of a book, ''Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas,'' by two Wall Street Journal reporters, Jill Abramson and Jane Mayer, for The American Spectator. Ms. Abramson is now the Washington bureau chief of The New York Times; Ms. Mayer is a Washington correspondent for The New Yorker.

He said Mark Paoletta, a Washington lawyer whom Mr. Brock identifies as a close friend of Justice Thomas's, gave Mr. Brock damaging information about Kaye Savage, another friend of Mr. Thomas's, who had told the ''Strange Justice'' authors that Justice Thomas had an obsessive interest in pornography. The information, which according to Mr. Brock's account, Mr. Paoletta said came from Justice Thomas, involved personal details about Ms. Savage's divorce.

Mr. Brock wrote that he used the information to intimidate her into recanting her account, threatening that he would ''blacken her name, just as I had done to every other woman who had impugned Thomas's reputation.''

In an interview, Mr. Paoletta, now senior Republican counsel to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, denied Mr. Brock's account.

''It's not true,'' he said. ''Justice Thomas did not ask me to pass along any derogatory information about Kaye Savage.''

A spokeswoman for the Supreme Court, Kathy Arberg, said yesterday that the justice had no comment.

Reached at home in Washington last night, Ms. Savage said that Mr. Brock had tried to intimidate her but that he had not told her the source of the negative information.

''I didn't think to ask,'' she said.

But she said that she had shared the information about her divorce with few people and that Justice Thomas and Ms. Hill were ''primarily'' those to whom she had confided.

''He either got it from Clarence or he got it from Anita,'' Ms. Savage said, ''and Anita's my friend.''

Mr. Brock also said in the magazine excerpt that Mr. Paoletta told him that Justice Thomas rented pornographic videos from a store called Graffiti Video.

Mr. Brock wrote that in an effort to protect the conservative political agenda, he ''consciously lied'' in the review of ''Strange Justice'' in The American Spectator.

In the review, Mr. Brock wrote that there was no evidence that Justice Thomas had ''ever rented one pornographic video, let alone was a habitual consumer of pornography.''

In the excerpt, Mr. Brock writes: ''When I wrote those words I knew they were false. It was the first and last time that I consciously put a lie in print.''

Mr. Paoletta denied Mr. Brock's statement that Mr. Paoletta had told Mr. Brock that Justice Thomas had often rented pornographic movies from a store named Graffiti Video when Anita Hill worked for him.

In the interview yesterday, Mr. Paoletta said, ''I do not know whether Justice Thomas ever rented pornographic videos at any time.''

When he was a writer for The American Spectator, Mr. Brock also wrote an article titled ''Troopergate,'' in which he reported accusations from Arkansas state troopers about Bill Clinton's private life when he was governor of Arkansas. Later, when Mr. Brock was working on a biography of Hillary Clinton, he had a change of heart about the attacks on the Clintons and has since defended them.

Earlier this year, during the confirmation hearings for Theodore B. Olson, President Bush's nominee for solicitor general, Mr. Brock accused Mr. Olson of being an active part of a campaign to air damaging information about the Clintons, an accusation that Mr. Olson, who is now solicitor general, denied.

Photo: David Brock has disavowed his book, ''The Real Anita Hill.'' (Associated Press)

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html


Sleep with dogs

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
72. LMAO! Just what I thought. You didn't watch the MSNBC clip from the year 2016
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:23 AM
Mar 2016

just a few short weeks ago where Capehart questions Bernie Sanders campaign rep, Tad Devine, about the authenticity of a picture. You obviously didn't watch that.

And LOL, here's some more news from the year 2001 since you're spamming about that as if it has anything to do with Tad Devine answering a simple question in the year 2016...
http://en.people.cn/200112/28/eng20011228_87645.shtml

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
74. Get out with the stupid little interview
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

it has been debunked and proven false but you cling to it because it is all you have.......


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Here's some extra images for you to enjoy








Sleep with dogs version 2.0

Clinton's Top Aides Have Lobbied for Companies Liberals Despise

Not only is Hillary taking money from lobbyists; she's also hiring them to run her campaign.


In the 2008 presidential race, Hillary Clinton made no excuses for the $2 million she collected from registered lobbyists, saying, "Based on my 35 years of fighting for what I believe in, I don’t think anybody seriously believes I'm going to be influenced by a lobbyist." But lobbyists would appear to have more than a little influence on her 2016 campaign. Not only is she still accepting donations from them—something President Obama declined to do in his 2008 and 2012 bids—but she is once again stocking her campaign with them.

There are at least six Clinton campaign staffers who, at one time or another, earned a paycheck as a registered lobbyist. They’ve lobbied for a range of controversial special interests, from the Keystone pipeline and Lehman Brothers to SeaWorld and some of the country's largest corporations.

Here's who they are:

John Podesta, campaign chairman

Podesta sits atop Clinton 2016, running the entire show alongside campaign manager Robby Mook. Podesta is a longtime buddy of the Clinton clan, having worked in Bill's White House as chief of staff. After leaving the White House, Podesta started the Democrats-in-exile think tank Center for American Progress, for which he did most of his lobbying work as a policy advocate in the mid-aughts.

Three decades ago, he also helped his brother Tony Podesta found a profit-driven lobbying firm, the Podesta Group. While he was getting the Center for American Progress set up, John Podesta did some lobbying for the group. His clients for the Podesta Group included eBay, the American Insurance Association, and the Agency for Nuclear Projects, an arm of the Nevada government.

Jose Villarreal, campaign treasurer

Villarreal is a familiar face around Clintonland. He served as a senior adviser on Hillary's 2008 campaign, and his ties with the family date back to a stint as deputy campaign manager on Bill's first presidential bid.

Villarreal hasn't worked as a federal lobbyist since 2009, but when he was in the lobbying world he was particularly active. Over the course of a decade lobbying at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Field, LLP, his clients included the largest players in corporate and financial America. A brief sampling: NASDAQ, Nationwide Mutual Insurance, Bridgestone, Boeing, AT&T, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, the Motion Picture Association of America, Disney, PG&E Corporation, Paypal, and the Coalition for 21st Century Patent Reform (funded by 3M, General Electric, and others).

Charlie Baker III, chief administrative officer

One of the founders of the Boston-based Dewey Square Group, a prominent Democratic consulting firm, Baker is a longtime party insider who sits near the top of Clinton's team. Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, Baker did a bit of federal lobbying for Northwest Airlines through Dewey Square, but the bulk of his lobbying work has come at Boston law firm DLA Piper LLP. He's regularly advocated before Congress for Rhode Island-based Citizens Bank. Other lobbying clients included the pharmaceutical firm Medicines Company, defense contractor Raytheon, and gambling trade association group Interactive Gaming Council. At the local level in Massachusetts, he's lobbied for AOL, earning DLA $120,000 between 2008 and 2009, and the Sterling Suffolk Racecourse, netting his law firm more than $300,000 between 2008 and 2011. According to disclosures in Massachusetts, Baker personally earned more than $250,000 from that work.

He even managed to pocket a bit of money from the ghost of Lehman Brothers. According to lobbying databases, Baker and three colleagues collected $10,000 from Lehman Brothers to lobby Congress at "hearings on financial services crisis." That happened between October and December 2008—after Lehman had already been liquidated through bankruptcy that September.

Jennifer Palmieri, communications director

The former director of communications for Obama at the White House, Palmieri jumped ship to serve the same role on Clinton 2016. She worked as a deputy press secretary in Bill Clinton’s White House. Afterward, Palmieri turned toward lobbying, but eschewed corporate clients to work for liberal causes. In 2001, Americans for Gun Safety paid Palmieri and five others $1.2 million to lobby for background checks for gun purchases. In 2006 and 2007 she was registered as a lobbyist for the Center for American Progress, trying to sway members of Congress against the Iraq War.

Jeffery Berman, consultant on tracking delegates

Clinton recently hired Berman, Barack Obama's 2008 delegate guru, to run the math for her primary campaign, just in case Bernie Sanders does end up challenging her in the contest for delegates. Berman brings expertise on the byzantine rules of caucus delegate counting, but he's also known as a prominent lobbyist for a project fiercely opposed by environmentalists: the Keystone pipeline.

"Hillary Clinton has hired a former lobbyist for the company behind the Keystone XL pipeline," The New Republic's Rebecca Leber wrote last month, "further upsetting environmentalists who have long been wary of her commitment to fighting climate change." As the Huffington Post noted, the firm Berman worked for, Bryan Cave, received $980,000 from TransCanada for lobbying work from 2009 to 2011. Berman was part of the team lobbying for the pipeline, and TransCanada paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his share of the work.

Berman worked for a host of other corporate clients during his years at Bryan Cave, which he left earlier this year to set up his own public affairs shop. According to the Senate's lobbying disclosure database, Berman influence-peddled for SeaWorld, Gogo (the inflight wifi company formerly known as Aircell), the GEO Group (America's second-largest private prison corporation), and FedEx.

Erik Balsbaugh, Massachusetts grassroots organizer

Balsbaugh has the distinction of being the first, and so far only, Clinton staffer working the ground in Massachusetts. He worked as a lobbyist for the Dewey Square Group in the state, generally on health care issues for the Massachusetts Patient Advocacy Alliance, a group that advocates easing restrictions on medical marijuana. In the first half of 2012, he received $25,000 for pressing Massachusetts lawmakers to loosen medical marijuana laws. At Dewey Square, he also worked for other liberal causes, such as the Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition and the Massachusetts League of Environmental Voters.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/hillary-clinton-lobbyists-campaign-staff-keystone-lehman





R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
78. LMAO again! You obviously didn't watch the MSNBC clip with Tad Devine and Capehart
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

from the year 2016 which was the crux of this petty "picturegate" conspiracy. All Tad Devine had to do was answer a question about the authenticity of the picture in question and be done with it. How hard could it be. So there is no being "done" with the MSNBC interview with Tad Devine's unprofessionalism because that was the start of all this nonsense.


LOL @ your conspiracy spam from the year 2001 and now 2008. Here are more government conspiracies for you, woo hoo! ILLUMINATI even.
http://www.illuminatirex.com/government-conspiracies/

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
81. Yes, it's obvious you would rather talk about anything else but the MSNBC interview which
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

was the start of all this nonsense. In that interview, you will see Bernie Sanders' campaign rep, Tad Devine, being questioned about the authenticity of the picture and being unable to answer. All he had to do was his due diligence like the rest of the campaigns do without all the conspiracies attached to every single thing. It was acknowledged that it wasn't that big of a story, but it was a question of authenticity. That's it. How hard can that be.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
87. You are making yourself look
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

foolish by harping on a meaningless interview since it has been debunked. Maybe you enjoy trolling or trying to get a hide. Whatever floats your boat my friend whatever floats your boat....


sleeps with dogs version 2.5

Top Hillary Clinton Advisers and Fundraisers Lobbied Against Obamacare and Dodd-Frank

Hillary Clinton is campaigning as a guardian of President Barack Obama’s progressive policy accomplishments. In recent weeks, she has called the Affordable Care Act “one of the greatest accomplishments of President Obama, of the Democratic Party, and of our country,” and promised that she is “going to defend Dodd-Frank” and “defend President Obama for taking on Wall Street.”

Meanwhile, however, Clinton’s campaign has been relying on a team of strategists and fundraisers, many of whom spent much of the last seven years as consultants or lobbyists for business interests working to obstruct Obama’s agenda in those two areas.

Consultants associated with the Dewey Square Group, a lobbying firm that has been retained by business interests to defeat a variety of progressive reforms, are playing a major role in the Clinton campaign. Charles Baker III, the co-founder of Dewey, is a senior strategist and the campaign’s chief administrative officer. Michael Whouley, another Dewey co-founder, played an early role in advising Clinton’s plan for the current campaign by convening some of the very first strategy sessions. Senior Dewey officials Jill Alper and Minyon Moore are also close advisers and fundraisers for Clinton, while at least four other Clinton officials have worked at Dewey within the last four years. In addition, disclosures show that Clinton’s Super PACs Priorities USA Action and Correct the Record have also paid Dewey Square Group for a variety of services in this election.

Undermining Obamacare reforms

Dewey, for instance, worked on behalf of the health insurance industry during the health reform debate, specifically to block the changes to Medicare Advantage that were critical for financing the Affordable Care Act. Medicare Advantage, which allows Medicare beneficiaries to use plans administered by private insurers, had long served as a cash cow for the health insurance industry. By one estimate, insurance companies over-billed the government by nearly $70 billion in improper payments over just a five year period. Dewey, which had been tapped to by health insurers to block cuts from the program starting in 2007, continued during the Obama era to lobby to protect Medicare Advantage, even as such reforms became a major part of how Democrats and the Obama administration sought to finance the Affordable Care Act.

One of the more deceptive components of the Dewey lobbying strategy was uncovered when an editor at the Lawrence, Massachusetts, Eagle-Tribune realized that the firm had worked quietly to place letters to the editor against cuts to Medicare Advantage under the names of elderly Massachusetts residents without their knowledge or consent.

Last year, ProPublica’s Alec MacGillis pressed America’s Health Insurance Plans, a major private health insurance lobby group that had retained Dewey, over the controversy. AHIP’s spokesperson brushed off the fake letter incident as the work of an intern and told MacGillis that AHIP ended its relationship with Dewey back in 2008, before the letters were sent. But tax documents reviewed by The Intercept show that a state-level health insurance lobby group called the Massachusetts Association of Health Plans, which represents the same major health insurance firms as AHIP, continued to pay Dewey throughout 2009 to 2012 for “grassroots” consulting.

“I don’t have any comment for your piece,” wrote Ginny Terzano, a spokesperson for Dewey, in response to an inquiry from The Intercept.

In 2009, Dewey was also retained by the National Restaurant Association, which at the time was lobbying aggressively to block health reform rules to require employers to provide health coverage to their employees. The National Restaurant Association, derided by labor activists as “the other NRA” for its role in lobbying against efforts to raise the minimum wage, paid Dewey $772,110 that year. Charles Baker, the Dewey co-founder who now serves as a senior strategist to the Clinton campaign, was also registered to influence health reform on behalf of the Medicines Company, a drug firm.

Other lobbyists now closely associated with the Clinton campaign were active in the fight against Obama’s health reforms.

Heather Podesta is one of the most prolific fundraisers for the Clinton campaign, having personally raised at least $348,581, according to recently filed disclosures. In 2009 and 2010, Podesta worked as lobbyist for the health insurance company Cigna. While working for Cigna to influence the health reform bill, Cigna was one of several large health insurers to secretly provide over $86 million in secret payments used to air negative television and radio advertisements to defeat the law. Heather Podesta is one of several lobbyists now fundraising for the campaign who previously worked for insurance interests to influence health reform. Irene Bueno, a fundraiser who raised $26,675, lobbied on behalf of CareMore (a division of health insurer Anthem) and Blue Shield of California to influence health reform as the bill was being debated. Bueno and Podesta did not respond to a request for comment.

Helping big banks undermine financial reform

On financial reform, Clinton has similarly tied herself to Obama’s legacy. Speaking with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow last month, Clinton asserted that on Dodd-Frank, Obama’s financial reform legislation, she is one of the “many Democrats” who are “fighting to prevent it from being turned back.”

Clinton’s inner circle, however, has lobbied to help obstruct and roll back many of Dodd-Frank’s signature reforms.

The Benenson Strategy Group, the consulting firm run by Joel Benenson, now serving as the Clinton campaign’s chief pollster and strategist, was retained by the Financial Services Forum, a lobbying group for Wall Street interests such as Citigroup and Goldman Sachs. Lobbying records show the Financial Services Forum has worked over the years to weaken a variety of Dodd-Frank reforms. In 2013, the Financial Services Forum paid Benenson’s firm $273,459 while it was lobbying on a number of rules that were mandated by Dodd-Frank, including capital requirements designed to prevent another financial crisis. Danny Franklin, a partner with the Benenson Stategy Group, wrote to The Intercept to say the Financial Services Forum is not currently a client of his firm, but declined to comment any further.

Last month, Benenson convened a conference call with reporters to “deride Bernie Sanders for airing an ad that criticized Wall Street firms and the politicians who accept their donations,” according to a report from International Business Times. As IBTimes reported, Benenson has also represented JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America, among other corporate clients.

Steve Elmendorf, a campaign adviser and fundraiser who has collected $30,505 for Clinton, was retained by Goldman Sachs as one of the bank’s “primary lobbyists” working to weaken the Dodd-Frank bill. Records show that after the bill was signed into law, Elmendorf continued to work on behalf of a number of Wall Street clients to ensure the implementation was favorable to financial industry interests. Elmendorf was tapped by Citigroup, for example, to help the House of Representatives pass the Swap Jurisdiction Clarity Act, a bill strongly supported by Republican leadership in Congress to allow banks to avoid financial regulations by moving some operations overseas — a change that experts say could lead to another financial meltdown.

Elmendorf is one of many lobbyists who worked to influence Dodd-Frank now helping the Clinton campaign raise cash. Dewey co-founder Charles Baker worked on a lobbying team with DLA Piper’s Matthew Bernstein, another major Clinton fundraiser, for Citizen Financial Group to help the bank lobby on Dodd-Frank. Disclosures show the efforts included work on the Volcker Rule, derivatives regulations, and rules concerning overdraft fees, many of the top concerns for the banking industry. Arshi Siddiqui, a lobbyist with Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld who is currently helping to raise money for the Clinton campaign, worked to influence Dodd-Frank implementation on behalf of the Mortgage Bankers Association, according to disclosures. Tony Podesta, the brother of the Clinton campaign’s chairman and a fundraiser for the campaign, worked for Bank of America to influence Dodd-Frank, according to filings.

Most of the Clinton campaign fundraisers who lobbied on Dodd-Frank did not respond to a request for comment. When asked about the work, Tony Podesta emailed us to say, “Call B of A.” An inquiry to Bank of America was not returned.

There are other lobbyists on the Clinton campaign staff. T. LaDavia Drane, the Clinton campaign’s director of African-American outreach, previously worked as a lobbyist for a trade group that represents Pepsico and Hershey on issues related to obesity and advertising to children. Jeff Berman, a senior Clinton campaign official who is leading her delegate strategy, previously worked as a lobbyist for the private prison firm Geo Group, seeking to influence the federal budget, as well as working for TransCanada to help secure approval of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

Speaking to The Hill last year, Tony Podesta said that unlike President Obama, who instituted a ban on registered lobbyists in his administration, K Street will find a more welcome home in a Clinton White House.

“I think Hillary Clinton will be the next nominee and probably be the next president, but whomever the next president is will not maintain the lobbying ban,” he predicted. “It was a good applause line for Obama, but it didn’t seem to make much sense for policy.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/08/hrc-inner-circle-lobbyists/

Your choice has been proven to bend the truth......and admits it too

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
91. Your anti-Hillary spam has nothing to do with the MSNBC clip from the year 2016
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

in which Bernie Sanders' for President 2016 rep, Tad Devine, was unable to answer a simple question about a picture the Sanders' campaign was using in an official capacity, although several close colleagues had previously denied it was Sanders. That's how simple the 'story' was, and Tad Devine shrugged it off.

If it was "debunked" at the time of that MSNBC interview, Tad Devine could have said so. But he didn't. Because it wasn't. Not at that time. That's where you came in comparing it to a fraud perpetrated upon a United States Senator by some fraudsters claiming to have her endorsement.

What's a relief is that the Sanders 2016 campaign looks like it won't be going prime time. With this kind of drama over a simple picture question, it's frightening to think how much pandemonium could be generated over other simple campaign questions.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
82. BTW you must have trouble reading........
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

Let me put in bold for you...........

but she is once again stocking her campaign with them.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
90. Clinton: Aliens may have visited us already
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016
?itok=us6mAz0w

Hillary Clinton says that aliens may have already visited humanity.

"I think we may have been [visited already]. We don't know for sure," the Democratic presidential front-runner told The Conway Daily Sun during a campaign stop in New Hampshire last week.

Her comment came after being asked about her husband Bill Clinton's comments during an appearance on late-night show "Jimmy Kimmel Live" in 2014, when he suggested that extraterrestrial life could exist.

"I just hope it's not like 'Independence Day,'" said Clinton, referring to the film where aliens attack earth.

Hillary Clinton told a Sun reporter that she would "get to the bottom" of UFOs. The reporter said the two spoke before, in 2007, when Hillary Clinton said the top open-records request her husband receive at his library involved UFOs.

She also noted that campaign chairman John Podesta, who served as White House chief of staff under Bill Clinton and in Barack Obama's White House, is a major fan of UFO theories.

"He has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out," Clinton said. "One way or another. Maybe we could have, like, a task force to go to Area 51."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264650-clinton-aliens-may-have-visited-us-already

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
92. More anti-Hillary spam totally unrelated to this thread or the fraud perpetrated
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

upon a United States Senator by falsely claiming she endorsed Sanders.


More conspiracies here for your enjoyment:
http://www.illuminatirex.com/government-conspiracies/

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
94. Here are more government conspiracies for your enjoyment:
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.illuminatirex.com/government-conspiracies/

Area51 was just one I picked out. There are more. I saw your conspiracy spam and figured you might really like that link.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
97. There was no name calling. LOL.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Another nice diversion, though.

You stated that you refuse to acknowledge the MSNBC clip which featured Bernie's campaign rep, Tad Devine, giving inaccurate information about a picture Sanders was using in an official capacity for his 2016 Presidential campaign. Instead you linked to 2001 conspiracies and then more 2008 conspiracies.

None of that has to do with the 2016 campaign question about Sanders picture. LOL.

And none of that had to do with the fraud perpetrated against a United States Senator falsely claiming that she endorsed Sanders.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
99. And it's apparent you didn't watch the MSNBC interview with Bernie's campaign
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

rep, Tad Devine, in which he was unable to answer a simple question as to the authenticity of a picture.

You've admitted that you refuse to acknowledge that interview and instead link to 2001 and 2008 anti-Hillary spam. LOL.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
101. The 2016 MSNBC interview clearly shows Bernie's campaign rep unable to answer a question
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:06 PM
Mar 2016

about a picture's authenticity. So no wonder you would refuse to acknowledge it. 2001 and 2008 anti-Hillary spam is much more appropriate under any circumstances...

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
104. Well, this is what I said many posts again. You obviously didn't watch the 2016 clip
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

from MSNBC with Capehart and Tad Devine, so you are not conversant in what transpired between them. Obviously.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
106. I can repeat what I saw between Tad Devine and Capehart, but you can't
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

because you didn't watch it happening and instead opt for your own editorialized versions to fit a certain narrative.

So your analogy of the current Warren fraud vs. Devine being unable to answer a campaign question are totally bogus.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
107. Repeating falsehoods to fit your agenda
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

proves you do not care for the truth. Accusing people of something you have no proof they did it is being dishonest and IMO a fool.....

Title Political Activities
View Committee on Racial Equality Sit-In, 1962 1
Series IV: Student Activities
Description Bernie Sanders speaks on the first day of the Committee on Racial Equality's sit-in at the office of University.
Subject Terms Beadle, George Wells, 1903-1989 | College students | College presidents | Political activists | Civil rights demonstrations
Photographer Lyon, Danny, born 1942
Photograph Date 1962-02
Physical Format Photographic prints; 16.1 x 23.4 cm
Location University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois
Collection Archival Photographic Files
Repository University of Chicago Library, Special Collections Research Center
Image Identifier apf4-01698


http://photoarchive.lib.uchicago.edu/db.xqy?one=apf4-01698.xml



R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
108. What transpired between Bernie's campaign rep happened before this Danny Lyon
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

confirmation and was the reason Danny became involved. But you wouldn't know that because you didn't watch the MSNBC clip between Bernie's own campaign rep, Tad Devine, and Capehart. According to your own standards, then, it was Devine who is dishonest. In any event, it was deemed not that significant of a story, but it went to authenticity.

But now you have to attack me personally with some silly cartoons, when the repetition is that it's obvious you didn't watch the exchange between the two men. How can you comment honestly on something you never saw? lol.



UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
110. Buh Bye!!!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016
Sleep with dogs version 3.0


{snip}
An interesting side note: Clone Zone appears to have been created by a New York City-based “creative studio” called 4REAL, which describes itself as “a diverse team of artists, designers, and developers dedicated to facilitating a deeper relationship between culture and technology through critical analysis and innovation.”

Besides Clone Zone, 4REAL also collaborated on an “interactive portal” for the website of the Clinton Global Initiative, a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation that has come under intense scrutiny for the overlapping roles of its co-founder and Clinton family confidante, Doug Band, and the instrumental role Bill Clinton has played in filling the initiative’s coffers. Hillary Clinton, who is running against Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination, joined the Clinton Foundation after retiring as Secretary of State in 2013.

We’ve reached out to 4REAL, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Clinton Foundation for comment, and will update this post if we hear back.

http://gawker.com/fake-website-tricks-thousands-into-believing-elizabeth-1762143861


R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
112. You admit that you don't watch pertinent interviews between two parties, but you
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

comment on them with your own narrow narratives, always anti-Clinton. BUH BYE indeed.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
109. Fake Website Tricks Thousands Into Believing Elizabeth Warren Endorsed Bernie Sanders
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016
Sleep with dogs version 3.0

{snip}
An interesting side note: Clone Zone appears to have been created by a New York City-based “creative studio” called 4REAL, which describes itself as “a diverse team of artists, designers, and developers dedicated to facilitating a deeper relationship between culture and technology through critical analysis and innovation.”

Besides Clone Zone, 4REAL also collaborated on an “interactive portal” for the website of the Clinton Global Initiative, a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation that has come under intense scrutiny for the overlapping roles of its co-founder and Clinton family confidante, Doug Band, and the instrumental role Bill Clinton has played in filling the initiative’s coffers. Hillary Clinton, who is running against Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination, joined the Clinton Foundation after retiring as Secretary of State in 2013.

We’ve reached out to 4REAL, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Clinton Foundation for comment, and will update this post if we hear back.

http://gawker.com/fake-website-tricks-thousands-into-believing-elizabeth-1762143861

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
111. LMAO! CloneZone lets FAKE USERS post
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.techinsider.io/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-endorsement-new-york-times-2016-3

"The article was created using a hoax-website creator called Clone Zone, which lets users create fake webpages and articles that look strikingly similar to popular news sites.

Here's an example of a different New York Times-style story about Donald Trump."


 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
22. Frenchie, I hope you know you won't find me peddling this crap.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

But some here who have I know did not do so intentionally.

I do not like disinformation of any kind.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
25. I agree....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

Plus, I don't know who originated....
although I kinda of know why.

In this day of insta news, and quick headlines.....
it is a crappy thing to do.

Folks should decide who they will vote for without having been influenced
a la Cruz (new phrase)

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
23. When antics like this happen, I think of David Brock and Mark Penn
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know why .... and I don't think of Bernie supporters at all. I believe whoever did this wanted the Sanders campaign to be suspect.

Sam

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
27. Why would anyone in the Clinton campaign want to influence undecideds by announcing via
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

some false story that Elizabeth Warren endorsed Bernie Sanders,
when Hillary is already ahead of Sanders in the polls?
add that this is being done the DAY BEFORE Super Tuesday......
with no time for many perhaps to find out that it isn't true?

Doesn't make any sense.....even to someone you would consider suspect.

If folks are gonna lie and put out fraudulent stories, I would have to imagine that it would be to help their candidate,
not the opponent!

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
48. It is too soon prior to the vote for that to work that way, IMO.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:01 AM
Mar 2016

It doesn't make sense....
so folk read this on their feed tonight, wake up and go and vote,
Bernie Wins,
and then they find out that it wasn't a real news story,
and you think it humbles and embarrasses Bernie Supporters?

I'm not following your logic.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
51. I think they are pretty sure the information will be quickly labeled a plant
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:04 AM
Mar 2016

and assume the Bernie camp would be suspect.

Why would they do this? It is what they are known for -- political dirty tricks. They weren't trying to influence undecideds; they were shooting for smearing the Sanders camp.

Sam

emulatorloo

(44,127 posts)
85. No, straight out of Rove/American Crossroads playbook
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

We already know they are spending big to disrupt our primary season; they are openly bragging about it.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
28. BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAINST OTHERS IS JUST AS BAD AS LYING - DO YOU THINK SANDERS SANCTIONED THIS?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

Dirty tricks abound in all campaigns. Does anyone really believe that the Sanders campaign started this? If you do you are out of your mind. Dirty tricks should not be tolerated by either campaign, and I'm sure Sanders would disavow this kind of nonsense, just as I'm sure the Clinton would if it had been the other way around.

Let's stop the FALSE accusations. Unless you have PROOF that the Sanders campaign started this ( not some lone individual(s) ), you are just as dishonest as the people who lied about the endorsement. Grow up and get a life !!!

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
32. THEN ANSWER THIS.....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

WHY ARE YOU ACCUSING ME
of making false accusations?

Did you go in the thread were someone had posted the story as though it was true
and accused them?

If not, then please refrain of accusing me of anything!

I just put up a notice that clearly on states that IF SOME Bernie supporters are posting this,
they should Quit doing so. period.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
47. Did you also put upa notice that clearly states that IF SOME Hillary supporters are posting this,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

they should quit doing so? period?

This is a really stupid thread.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
49. What I witnessed was this....
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:03 AM
Mar 2016

A Bernie supporter posted it here.
A Bernie supporter posted it on KOS
A few Bernie supporters posted it on FB

Get it?

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
54. Me too....
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

But I don't like fake news on my FB newsfeed.....
that isn't clearly marked Fake....
not when it has to do with election info
the day before a vote

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
59. They really think a Hillary supporter would do that?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016

I mean really why the fuck would a supporter want to hurt her. Posting that would hurt Hillary and help Bernie, my head hurts.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
38. I was one of the people who posted it on Facebook . . . BUT . . .
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016
. . . I did so with a "PLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY" all-caps message calling attention to the clonezone URL and letting folks know the story is fake, debunked.

riversedge

(70,236 posts)
77. ha ha---well DU is a
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

Place where you can make up your own news also!!~~~~~





"Some folks are spreading a FRAUDULENT NEWS ARTICLE right before the vote tomorrow!
The Clonezone is a site where you can make up your own news. "

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
86. Hi- a proud "BERNIE FOLK" Here -
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:14 AM
Mar 2016

i saw that link posted in the Sanders group yesterday and thought "she did?""" I was skeptical. The link didn't look right - I figured out it was a hoax. Maybe it was done by a Clinton fan to make us look bad. It is absolutely not out of the question that one of them would. So, don't go there.

emulatorloo

(44,127 posts)
88. RoveCo strikes again
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

They've put big money into disrupting our primary. And they are openly bragging about it. They are all about divide and conquering Dems. I'm sure they would be delighted with this thread.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
96. Sounds more like something...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary and her Brockbuddies would pull...it's so easily verifiable and then they just need to claim victim hood.

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