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Jesse Ventura says he will run for President if Sanders loses the primary (Original Post) Bread and Circus Mar 2016 OP
Just saw that. Barack_America Mar 2016 #1
Ironic given Ventura's comments on David Duke's endorsements, no? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #2
I can't find anything that says Bernie turned down Jesse's endorsement. SamKnause Mar 2016 #17
. Barack_America Mar 2016 #19
Thanks. SamKnause Mar 2016 #21
If he has the money to throw away, go for it. oasis Mar 2016 #3
Trump, Ventura or Clinton. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #4
I'd add a disclaimer to your post. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #5
I would hope that would be clear given the context. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #6
I've seen at least a dozen alerts for less. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Yeah, I added a disclaimer - hopefully that will suffice! Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #13
No problem, hopefully that will do the trick. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #16
Do you know the crap he did in Minnesota? Recursion Mar 2016 #7
I'm pretty familiar with Ventura but please, by all means, educate us. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #11
OMFG. I'm done here Recursion Mar 2016 #14
I am not. SamKnause Mar 2016 #18
Gutting the tax base, busting teachers' unions, cutting college funding Recursion Mar 2016 #20
Damn !!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Mar 2016 #22
So kind of like Rahm Emanuel, then? GoneFishin Mar 2016 #28
+1 basselope Mar 2016 #9
. one_voice Mar 2016 #15
Christ, that's disgusting. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #8
Don't shoot the messenger. It's just a link. I don't support the guy Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #10
Jessie is also a SEAL, and was slandered by the other SEAL... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Mar 2016 #23
Even if he *does* have his Trident VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #24
Are we talking about tabloid propaganda or stuff that actually happened? ReallyIAmAnOptimist Mar 2016 #25
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Ventura believes in crazy conspiracy theories. He has some good views, but others are NUTS. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #29
I wouldn't vote for Jesse Ventura. Maedhros Mar 2016 #30

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
17. I can't find anything that says Bernie turned down Jesse's endorsement.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:30 AM
Mar 2016

I knew Jesse endorsed Bernie, but that is the last info. I have.

Do you have a link or article title ???

Jesse is a strange bird.

I agree with him on many things.

I disagree with him on many things.

He does seem to be an honest person.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
4. Trump, Ventura or Clinton.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:37 AM
Mar 2016

I'll go for Ventura.

EDIT - BMUS advised that the above should be openly disclaimed as a hypothetical situation and the resulting action I would take in such an event.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. I'd add a disclaimer to your post.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:42 AM
Mar 2016

Someone will alert on it and others will try to get you banned for saying that.

Something like: as of this moment this is a fictional scenario. No Democrats were harmed during the making of this post. Thank you for serving.


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Do you know the crap he did in Minnesota?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:45 AM
Mar 2016

I'm guessing not. Or maybe you do and don't care, or just are easily duped by people who project a "straight talker" persona?

Ventura was a horrible governor.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
11. I'm pretty familiar with Ventura but please, by all means, educate us.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:51 AM
Mar 2016

Again, given the three of Trump, Clinton and Ventura - I'd vote for Ventura, warts and all. Unless you've got something damning to share that I am unaware of - I'm all ears.

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
18. I am not.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:33 AM
Mar 2016

Could you give a short synopsis.

Do you have any informative article titles with info. ???

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. Gutting the tax base, busting teachers' unions, cutting college funding
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

appointing a conservative to replace Paul Wellstone...

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
8. Christ, that's disgusting.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:46 AM
Mar 2016

That's... Probably the worst news you could have brought here. Do you know the shit he did to the widow of a SEAL? God, ew.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
10. Don't shoot the messenger. It's just a link. I don't support the guy
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:49 AM
Mar 2016

But is is interesting. Not sure if he could run a decent campaing though.

If he could pull a few % it could make things harder to predict.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
24. Even if he *does* have his Trident
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:45 AM
Mar 2016

Even if he *was* slandered by Chris Kyle, Janos went after Kyle's widow rather than letting shit lie. I can't see him as anything other than a vicious opportunist.

25. Are we talking about tabloid propaganda or stuff that actually happened?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

Kyle was a 'hero', but also a liar, and Jesse certainly has the right to set the record straight. I don't blame him one bit.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/01/american_sniper_lawsuit_chris_kyle_told_lies_about_jesse_ventura.html

A couple of clips from an article from SLATE...
American Liar: Why Jesse Ventura is likely to collect millions from Chris Kyle’s American Sniper.

There was, however, a problem: The Ventura story wasn’t true, and Ventura meant to prove it. So he took Kyle to trial, suing him—and, after he died, his estate—for defamation and unjust enrichment. In the United States, defamation cases are extremely difficult to win, thanks to the First Amendment. When allegedly defamatory statements pertain to a public figure, the plaintiff mustn’t just prove those statements were false. He has to prove the defendant made those statements with “actual malice”—that is, knowledge that they were false or with “reckless disregard” for their falsity. Very few defamation plaintiffs can make it over the high bar of actual malice.

Ventura made it. On July 29, 2014, a federal jury returned from six days of deliberations to award Ventura $1.845 million in damages—specifically, $500,000 for defamation and about $1.345 million for unjust enrichment. (In other words, Kyle unjustly profited from defaming Ventura, and so his estate must give Ventura some of that money.) Kyle’s widow, Taya Kyle, promptly filed for “judgment as a matter of law,” asking the trial judge to reverse’s the jury’s verdict because the jury clearly got it wrong. Failing that, she asked for an entirely new trial. The judge denied both requests, defending the jury’s verdict as legally and factually justifiable. Kyle’s widow is currently appealing the decision; her odds of winning appear quite low.

Also, note: "HarperCollins’ libel insurance, in fact, will cover her [Taya Kyle's] defamation damages."

The flak Jesse took over this was flying from the right-wing. Jesse is a character for sure, but Kyle was clearly a lying jerk which is the ONLY reason Jesse won this law suit.

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Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. I wouldn't vote for Jesse Ventura.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

Jill Stein will be on the ballot, she's infinitely preferable to him.

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