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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:31 AM Mar 2016

it looks as of now like it will be Hilary vs trump

it still blows my mind that this fascist is garnering so much support.

altho I am no fan of hilary, I hope that if this is the line-up- that people will vote dem in such numbers as to crush trump --
altho I am not very optimistic.
but that is my hope.

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it looks as of now like it will be Hilary vs trump (Original Post) ellenrr Mar 2016 OP
I didn't think it would be Trump either ... but on the bright side, NurseJackie Mar 2016 #1
Must defeat Trump. His David Duke no comment comment weaned many off his kool aid. grossproffit Mar 2016 #2
Or ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #3
a democratic senate would be a VERY good thing-- ellenrr Mar 2016 #4
There will be a Third Party candidate of which mmonk Mar 2016 #5
She will have a Reagan style landslide victory over that clown. JRLeft Mar 2016 #6
Knock wood, but that's what's shaping up so far. Hortensis Mar 2016 #13
Obama didn't put Hillary away until May 6 (2008) GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #7
And Obama won South Carolina RealAmericanDem Mar 2016 #8
I really didn't think it would be Trump. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #9
One of his biggest leaps: From "The Donald" to "Trump." Hortensis Mar 2016 #14
he's not silly unless you think fascism is silly ellenrr Mar 2016 #19
He is a very silly man in many ways. Hortensis Mar 2016 #20
I think people know very well what he stands for ellenrr Mar 2016 #17
IMO, yes and no. A lot of people indulge first, then think -- or not. Hortensis Mar 2016 #21
Trump being the GOP nominee is shocking DCBob Mar 2016 #10
this has barely began madokie Mar 2016 #11
Turn out for Dems is already looking low. You can thank the DNC for that. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #12
Doubt Dems or sane Republicans and Independents will allow Trump to win emulatorloo Mar 2016 #16
he's got a lot more juice than Sarah Palin. no one took her seriously ellenrr Mar 2016 #18
and everybody gets fucked LOL snooper2 Mar 2016 #15

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. I didn't think it would be Trump either ... but on the bright side,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:38 AM
Mar 2016

... he's WRECKED the GOP for at least a generation.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. Or ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

Heard some folks on CNN yesterday say,
if Trump is the GOP nominee, true conservatives may mount a third party try against Trump and Hillary.
And if the GOP establishment blocks Trump from getting the nomination, Trump may run as a third party candidate.

In any event, they were predicting a Democratic President and Senate elected in November.

But, you know what my mother always said.
You don't?

"Don't count your chickens before they hatch."

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
5. There will be a Third Party candidate of which
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:27 AM
Mar 2016

we do not see the consequences of yet as well as we can't see but only guess how the FBI thingy will turn out. Only future events will shake things out.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
7. Obama didn't put Hillary away until May 6 (2008)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

She isn't going down without an equal fight this time. Hang in there.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. I really didn't think it would be Trump.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mar 2016

For once the media has done progressives a great service. They pumped him up and didn't vet him. That will change when we are down to two. People aren't aware of the baggage he carries and the things he is on video saying. His past makes his words in the primary look PC in comparison.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. One of his biggest leaps: From "The Donald" to "Trump."
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

But he's still the silly, dysfunctional "The Donald," and I predict you are absolutely correct.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
19. he's not silly unless you think fascism is silly
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

in NY someone threw scalding water on a Black man while yelling the "N-word". directly attributable to trump making hate and racism ok.
no it is not crystal night yet but for some people - Muslims for ex - it will be.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. He is a very silly man in many ways.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:48 AM
Mar 2016

We have very good reason to believe The Donald has a strong personality disorder, ellenrr. He is not whole, normal person. It would be interesting to know what the effects of the presidency could be on a person like him. Cluster B traits can include some real nasty ones that I don't think we have any real indication of a history of in him. Yet.

Not that having a serious personality disorder excuses his fascistic tendencies, but they are in a whole different category from plastering his name 3 stories high everywhere he can get it and calling anyone who criticizes him even slightly a stupid doo-doo.

Kristallnacht. Is that like a tupperware party or something?

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
17. I think people know very well what he stands for
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

if people are willing to nominate someone who says, "I'd like to punch that protester in the face" they know everything they need to know and they still support him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. IMO, yes and no. A lot of people indulge first, then think -- or not.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

In Trump's case, we've had a long period of indulgence, of both noise and silence.

Some have thoroughly enjoyed his singing their racist song, they and others his four-story-tall expression of their angry resentment. Others I've spoken with, though, think he will stand between them and the nebulous forces of the "establishment" they finally recognize as their enemy. It's not all about bigotry and aggression.

That said, Republican and pub-leaning indie voters are now actually making their choice. Trump "won" 10 of 15 states yesterday, but only 34% of the vote. For all the noise surrounding Trump, two out of three Pubs have rejected him so far.

Which is about what one might expect. That number reliably always votes strong conservative and reliably supported W and Tea Party extremism until things got so bad for so long that even most of those fell away to a hard-core nadir of around 22%. I haven't read analysis on this, but it really looks like the the GOP "base" is choosing Trump and rejecting the shadowy ultraconservative billionaires who've been leading them around by the nose for so long. A Trump nomination could be very good for us and for the nation and potentially very bad for those plutocrats who are trying to strengthen their control over us.

Also good is that so far the less extreme and more responsible 2/3 is split away from the knuckle-dragging base, although who fools themselves that they will finally stay that way? Still,...could Trump conceivably cause a real fracture?

Aside from that long-needed event, I'm afraid the other 2/3 will manage to ignorantly nominate a competent and reliable tool of the wealthy under the impression that they are voting for a sensible mainstream conservative, and with it a seemingly more viable candidate for president.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. this has barely began
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

and you're declaring hill a winner already.

Why do I even bother reading shit like this I ask myself

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
16. Doubt Dems or sane Republicans and Independents will allow Trump to win
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

He's 2016's version of Sarah Palin.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
18. he's got a lot more juice than Sarah Palin. no one took her seriously
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

he's got armies behind him.
a resurgence of right-wing ideology and militia

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