very sobering turnoff as well. Not just for those who are already appalled by him. I'm also wondering if the excitement of some of those who've been using him to give the finger to the GOP "establishment" might also be tempered with a shiver of apprehension.

Of course, I could be overestimating even some of them yet again. I thought his disastrous 2000 campaign proved to them that they couldn't vote for that year's clueless buffoon, W.

Some talking head on TV was actually predicting this election would see the end of the wealth-serving group of ignorant social conservatives that the GOP has devolved into. (Actually, she just predicted the disintegration of the GOP, the rest is mine) . We'll see. It's way, way overdue.

No reason to disband when it still has power to obstruct.

and McConnell would bury anyone who came to carry him out under an avalanche of donor support, but nevertheless... A few cynical leaders serving a few very wealthy supported by a dwindling base of angry social conservatives? Something's breaking.

will win the presidency.

Because that's who's going to decide the election, as has been usual of late.

My prediction is that while that association will hurt him badly in things like street interviews, when push comes to shove in the voting booth, his outsider status, pandering, etc. will override that...when there's no one to witness the vote for the racist.

There are too many closet racists out there still unfortunately

Those who are disgusted by his anti-Muslim/Mexican rhetoric are already turned off and won’t vote for him so they're already out of the mix.

Adding in AA racism isn't going to be the deal breaker for his remaining supporters imo

must have been a different hell.

Its the last line in " fall of the roman empire " A poorly made ahistorical film about the last days of rome
I.find.it appropriate.here.

He's a terrible candidate hiding behind a very weak national Republican party.

younger candidate like him will eventually win the presidency.

I think you underestimate the degree to which she is hated, thus massively motivating far-right turnout (to a far greater degree than Trump's nomination de-motivates traditionalist Republicans). Trump will crush any status-quo candidate among the critical segment: moderate independents. This "year of the outsider" stuff is very real. Inexplicably garnering most of the black vote can't offset that in the swing states that will actually decide the election.

I also think you may underestimate the degree to which her campaign (and the sizable contingent of abrasive, dismissive, gloating assholes among her supporters) is going to harm turnout on the the far-left. If someone had a gun to my head demanding I vote for Hillary, I'd have to think long and hard about trying for the disarm...

Trump's obnoxious, loud, and abrasive behavior.

Genuine leftists aren't going to vote for the guy, regardless...but a huge number will not come out for Hillary. And as I assert elsewhere, I think a lot of those moderate independents in swing states might decry that KKK connection to their friends (or even pollsters), but in the privacy of the voting booth, it will matter far, far less than his outsider status versus the cozy, part-of-the-problem status of his opponent.

young voters won't vote for her a lot moderates will.

I see obstructionism continuing.

Hillary does not.

or become a hypocrite in defense of some "greater good" that a good 80% of the country couldn't give two fucks less about.

have no idea what's really going wrong in this country. It's why nothing changes. Reality has taken over the mindless drones in this country.

Also, Bernie polls higher against Trump. He could easily do better than her.

There are people in jail today for doing less.