And she has stated numerous times that she is for $15/hr in high COL areas.

Might as well ask why not $100 an hour. That's a silly game.

But since you asked, $15 is what advocates for a living wage have calculated as the MINIMUM WAGE which is the bare minimum to cover the basics.

Now why is Clinton against it?

Im not deflecting, Im hoping you answer the question so I can move on to deeper points, like downward pressure on redistributive income that negatively effects the middle class and poor. Forget it.

Now we're getting somewhere. Fed only sets the bottom. What if a state like Alabama finds that their small businesses cant absorb $15/hr and they start closing up shop. Who does that hurt, the rich or the middle class employees?

Even in a low cost of living area, $15 is still a shitty wage and hard to live on.

And -- this is NOT an anti-business statement -- but businesss have to live within their means as do individuals. In otehr words, if a business cannot afford 5 people at $15 an hour, perhaps they should stick with four at $15 (at least) and manage themselves smartly until they grow to afford another employee.....They have to do that with all their expenses. If they can't afford to be in a top notch storefront for $3000 a month, they accept that they may have to go to a $1000 less desirable one until they can afford to move up.

I can't go to the auto dealer and say "Gee I really want this BMW but I can only afford the Honda Civic. Can I pay you the price of the Honda, but get the BMW instead."

Say 1 of every 5 like you stated, so others could get $3/hr more? Its not like jobs in rural America are in abundance. I would reckon the employee would rather make $12/hr + health benefits than be on unemployment and uninsured.

And I am not averse to programs or certain built in flexibility to accommodate particular situations.

But since about 1980 and "supply side economics" business has been put into an "entitled" position where the normal laws of living within your means are not supposed to apply. They claim to be "job creators" to get breaks from the rules, while slashing jobs.

Business should obviously be in a position to make money. But the peopel who work for business are entitled to be paid enough to live a decent life too.

Most small biz owners make around 75k a year.

Prove your premise, Governor.

That kind of totally unsubstantiated "what if" isn't even worth a response. It's a make work question.

He's not set on a specific number except that $15 is the right compromise between fighting poverty and the possibility of passing Congress relatively soon once he's in the White House.

No, we can't

And that is who she ultimately works for. Plus I think she actually gets off on keeping the poor, poor.

she seems to align more with the (small and large) business owners than with the workers/employees and the people who would one day like to be workers.

I think the idea that she gets off on keeping the poor, poor is just crazy.

$16 in 2016!

pass it on.

And that only on selective days too, most likely to end pretty soon.

There will be no increase in the minimum wage if all we're willing to talk about is $15. (Which is still not enough, IMO.) But maybe she can peel off some GOP votes with a graduated increase starting at $12.

That's the thinking on this, I believe.
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"Aim high" -I get that. It doesn't always work that way, though. Whatever else she is, Clinton understands politics.
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But you don't start the negotiation with "Tell you what, let's just agree to keep a minimum wage."

other issue? I truly don't know. The campaign isn't over yet...

she's trying to "split the difference" between the two.

That might be another sort of "triangulation", I'm not sure.

instead she said that she supports a $12 federal and she supports allowing states or local areas to go even higher. She didn't say why she opposes $15 as the federal minimum.

Please share links if you have them for the answer.

She just gave a position not an answer. Feel free to post the actual answer of why she opposes it.

She already makes much more than that. Most of the people that do need it, won't vote for her anyway.

I was talking about Hillary alone.

Congress might agree to $12. No way would $15 pass.

I am a negotiator - a successful one - and the way to get what you want is NOT to throw down some arbitrarily higher number. That just annoys the other party.

Negotiating with Republucans is complex. The Clintons are pretty good at it. She's being strategic.

WTF

the U.S.

Damn I'm glad I didn't have a mouth full when I read that. LOL

In other words what you're saying to us is all the shit that came down our way during the big dogs two terms was what they wanted for us. Well in that case fuck them and the lies they rode in on. Bill and Hill

This congress would agree to abolish the min.

You know how unlikely it is to pass this Congress, or the next, or the one after it until maybe 2021. Maybe.

Wonder if this was discussed in her speeches?

She is for $15/hr in higher cost of living areas.

from which the states and municipalities should be setting their local regulations.

Nothing is stopping states from going higher as they wish.

and for those areas, yes, I think Bernie would say that a $15 min approaches a bare minimum livable wage. Especially if you are trying to get the other parts of his agenda enacted (free college tuition, single-payer health care with elimination of for-profit health insurance middle-men, etc) Even NY Gov Cuomo (not exactly super progressive) supports $15 min wage.

States are free to go as high as they want.

Status quo and quid pro quo. They pretty much answer any questions about hrh.

And they fund her campaign, Super PAC and the Clinton Global Initiative...follow the money

Because it would be counterproductive as it would spur automation and offspring. Get used to the drive thru guy being someone in the Philippines and self checkout everywhere. I'm for Bernie but I don't agree with him on every issue.

in a "bipartisan" manner with right wing lunatics.

significantly impacted employment. 15 is not over some non-linear tipping point that would cause a cascade of joblessness that 12 would not cause.

that proves the point you're making about an increase in the minimum wage does not increase joblessness, also cautioned that this might no longer hold if the MW is raised too high, at least in some areas in the country. Some HCOL cities can absorb that, other areas not necessarily.

The point is that Hillary supports a more staggered approach instead of a single sum (i.e., $15 in some areas, $12 in others), and that she does have reason to do so that has nothing to do with her being supposedly "bribed by Wall Street."

To keep doing the same thing and expect a different result is the definition of insanity. Clintons are just more of the same status quo political theater.

But peeling a layer off the $15 figure makes her look more pragmatic than Bernie in the race to the nomination

It's all about that race, 'bout that race, 'bout that race...

Now go out and vote for her.