and I have no excuses for Wassermann-Schultz on this. A two-year delay in implementation? I hope she's hung out to dry.

to see how things play out re this isue

if you are looking for the DWS sponsored legislation go here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027650893

Political parties aren't a fraction as powerful as they once were.

I've only sent directly to individual candidates. I'll never send to these 3rd way groups again.

he speaks with a forked tongue and will stop at NOTHING to get what he wants. just ask the the traditional paiutes of nevada.

If Sandoval gets promoted, that makes room for Harry's son to also be promoted. That's what this is all about. It's nothing about country but everything about feathering his son's nest.

drunk out of their minds that they actually would NOT notice...

And it follows that...............

You u underestimate the sentiments involved

but who knows anymore

stuff like that that makes me say "I'd like to think he would veto such a bill"

Sanders should be sure to bring the issue up ASAP to preempt

Grandstand about it and then switch positions when it's time to actually vote on it.

She owns an agency???

Yes, you take ownership.

I deleted "agency".

We all need an editor, on occasion, right?

Since it was her brainchild and she was prospectively to be the head of it, which didn't happen and then she ran for the Senate.

appoint her to run her own baby.

But she's also a wimp, let's face it. Sanders losing MA by less than 2% - maybe about what her endorsement is worth, if she was willing to live by her stated creed.

because the R senators said no way would they approve her ...

Obama was and is always caving in to the repugs.

What the repugs a repaying her to do

Are in it for the power trip and the money,mainly the money...

with the shenanigans of the DNC and DWS. I quit all contributions and membership to the DNC a long time ago when it finally occurred to me what the DNC is about, and some of my contributions were significant. I now give directly to candidates. And I say all of this as someone that wants to ensure a democratic is in the WH 2016, Bernie or Hillary. I'm also not alone in what I'm saying. Most democrats I know, perhaps biased, are totally fed up with the new DNC and also with DWS.

and appears this might be a shot at Bernie and other Progressives. It has Al Fromm written all over it.

it is a direct salvo to Warren's non-endorsement.. endorsement.. get it

Liberals.. shots fired

that it's just mind blowing.

It's also a political gamble during a primary. The HuffPo article outlines how most victims of these payday loan schemes are very vulnerable and poor people. Their lives are often ruined. Anyone who is attached to Wasserman's ploy (or anyone who supports her efforts to pass this bill) is attached to all of the baggage that comes with predatory payday-loan practices.

from the article:
Consumer groups are appalled by the bill. The Consumer Federation of America, the NAACP, The National Consumer Law Center, The National Council of La Raza, The Southern Poverty Law Center and hundreds of others wrote a letter to every member of Congress in December urging them to oppose the legislation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-paylenders-cfpb_us_56d4ce38e4b03260bf77e8fc

"it's politics, not personal" as they say.. the endorsement from the DNC chair that resigned (forgot her name) may have set a chain of events that has put pressure on Warren to officially get off the fence as another prominent women in the party..

these are the type of stories that are hard to explain to the everyday non-following voter.. and in many aspects very depressing

and she deserves all of those nouns--and then some.

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I certainly hope not.

Is this some weird defense of the sexist and offensive hidden post?

Hifiguy used salty language to criticize a corrupt politician for deplorable actions that will hurt poor people.

Someone stood up for hifiguy and all you see was his language.

It's called straining out gnats but swallowing camels.

Sexism is a form of bigotry that is harmful no matter how much you claim not to care. The hidden post was sexist and full of hyperbole. Why anyone would want to parrot those sentiments is beyond me.

Righteous anger at DWS is a perfectly appropriate response.

You cannot deny that no matter how pissed you are.

You are.

Ick. I think I've had enough of this.

Have a nice evening. Goodbye.

infiltrated the Democratic Party (via Clintons' third way)???

Continuing to make excuses for these types of actions and sticking our heads in the sand only encourages them to keep at it. Moneyed Interests rule and the minions of the party base have no where else to go so who cares what their principles are. It will not only continue but escalate with third way queen Hillary at the helm.

We need our party back. We need to be an opposition party again to the repubs, not their partners in crime.

There, I said it.

Let's pretend everything goes like DWS wants, and Clinton gets the nomination.

Then she says: "Hey Sander supporters! We need you! Please ignore how I just did exactly what you hate!"

He had been to some sort of event and he said he was surprised by the number of people who came up to him and said that if Bernie wasn't the candidate they'd vote for Trump rather that Clinton.
He said it was a shock to him to hear that.
I think that will be the case for a lot of people, they are fed up with waiting for the Democrats to get it together for the people.

don't.

"To amend the Truth in Lending Act to establish deferred presentment transaction requirements"

seems reasonable to me, those loan sharks need regulations in some states.

https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr4018/BILLS-114hr4018ih.pdf

I'm not sending her a dime.

Elizabeth Warren’s brainchild the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an independent agency which protects consumers in the financial sector, is under attack. The attack is not only coming from the usual suspects of the GOP but by an unexpected foe – DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Yes, it seems that when Schultz is not actively trying to rig the Democratic presidential race in favor of Hillary Clinton, she is busy advocating for the rights of payday lenders to freely defraud and deceive the American people. Payday lenders have been working to take down the bureau ever since its inception, along with an onslaught of legislation proposed by Republican lawmakers. Until this point, the regulatory agency has stood strong.

Warren originally proposed the CFPB in 2007 in response to the incoming financial crisis. The bureau’s stated task is to “promote fairness and transparency for mortgages, credit cards, and other consumer financial products and services.” It’s just too bad the one thing Schultz hates the most is fairness in government.

Schultz is co-sponsoring a bill which, if passed, would gut the CFPB’s forthcoming regulation on payday loans. Schultz is trying to get other Democrats to join her cause as well. DWS’s important position as the head of the Democratic party means that this support is significant and works to erase the line between Republicans and Democrats on economic issues.

Why is DWS going against Democratic ideals which encourage the regulation of bank entities to protect consumers? Maybe it has something to do with the top contributors to her campaign back in Florida. DWS is running again for her congressional seat in Florida, and for the first time ever she has a real Democratic competitor nipping at her heels.

>>>>>>The top three contributors to DWS’s campaign are from the finance, insurance, and real estate sectors. And of course, payday lenders fit neatly into those categories.<<<<<


Or maybe it has something to do with a personal vendetta against Elizabeth Warren who has as-of-yet refused to endorse either presidential candidate? Reports have shown a strong pressure from other female senators for Warren to endorse Hillary, but Warren has said more than once that she intends to remain neutral for now. Warren would be a gigantic endorsement for Clinton as she is highly regarded by the same people who champion candidate Bernie Sanders.

Schultz publicly claims that her opposition to the CFPB stems from her support for her own Florida regulatory law which she claims does a more than adequate job, despite many advocate groups that claim otherwise. Alex Horowitz, senior research officer at Pew says that “Florida’s law has not protected consumers.” Others have said that Florida’s law was drafted by the very agencies it pretends to regulate. This is the law that Schultz claims she is trying to protect – while protecting the interests of her big donors.

Whatever her true motive, Schultz is clearly a friend of the corporate and banking world. She continually votes against the interests of American consumers and she will continue to do so for as long as it benefits her. That we have such a despicable representative of the Democratic party is just confirmation that our system is entrenched in establishment politics and Wall Street money. It is no surprise that Senator Bernie Sanders is finding no love among these bought-out cronies. Maybe now, Senator Warren will finally hand down her endorsement and help to put the Democratic party back on track.

http://trofire.com/2016/03/01/debbie-wasserman-schultz-teams-up-with-gop-to-take-down-elizabeth-warren/

lending business in the State of Texas. Several State lawmakers own payday lending companies and do not want them controlled by State Regulation or Federal Agencies. I have not checked to see which House and Senate members own payday lending businesses.

At this point, there doesn't appear to be much difference between her and Rdpublicans, either, if she's trying to undo Warren's legislation.

Screw her and the DNC. Not another dime.

I like Canova. Here's a money quote from HuffPo:

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"So far in the 2016 cycle, she has received contributions from Goldman Sachs, Comcast, Google, Lockheed Martin, the Major League Baseball Commissioner's Office, the Transport Workers Union and lobby groups representing all kinds of different industries.
Snip

She waffled on the Iran deal when Obama was looking for support. She opposes not only legalizing marijuana for recreational use, but also medical marijuana (Canova highlights her fundraising from the alcohol lobby and private prisons -- two groups that have a financial interest in blocking medical marijuana). She also voted to hamstring the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's new rules against shady payday lenders, and to help auto dealers charge more to customers of color. When Warren and Pelosi led a revolt against a government funding bill over federal subsidies for risky Wall Street trades, Wasserman Schultz supported the package. snip

I strongly support him in his effort.

she did not obey.

I don't know if it's #1 or #2, but both stink to high heavens. And so we have more Bull S coming from the DNC.

#2 will split the party.

not for show.

The difference between the candidates.

Payday loans are a big PAYDAY for both of them!

I think they're trying to marginalize Warren because they are afraid she'll team up with Bernie and the two will become an unstoppable force.

I think this ^ is more likely than that it will "scare" Elizabeth Warren into submission.

But then the DNC isn't noted for making any sense, and hasn't been for quire awhile.

EW recoils from corruption.

It helps that the dirty dealing has been publicized.

Ugly.

This would explain Debbie flinging feces.

DNC and DWS have their own party. I am not included.

Already voted for Senator Sanders in the NH primary (that was a good day). Changed to Independent yesterday.

We're not leaving the party; the party has left us.

Phone banking, donating, canvassing - You name it, I was there for him because I was lazy in my research and thought he was a Democrat that would finally bring the party back to being the party of labor and the needy in this country like it was before Bill Clinton turned it into the Republican fiscal/barely socially liberal, Frankenstein's monster that it is today and so went back to registering as a Democrat

After he dismissed and then dissed his army of progressives warriors, then appointed his Neo-liberal, Neocon and even Republican cabinet, and became just another Clinton DLC Republican tool/enemy collaborator. I became an independent again like after Clinton (Previous to Clinton I was a Democrat for nearly 30 years)

I learned a valuable lesson about not trusting campaign speeches WITHOUT researching actions, views and votes from the past during those few years. I did my research this time on Sanders, the absolutely most consistently labor and poor advocate type of Democrat I've ever seen (no matter his party affiliation). I re-registered as a Democrat again for him, after the primary, if he loses and it remains a pretend Democrat/moderate Republican party especially in light of the neo-liberal moderate Republican party leadership exemplified by DWS, I will change my registration to Democratic socialist, or if that is not an option in my State just plain Socialist and await a labor party to emerge from the eventual ashes. even tho I admit that at my age and health I likely won't see it, but hope the young people that need it do.

When I was young, it was the Democrats that were the labor party, the party of the poor, the party of the New Deal, The Great Society, Civil Liberties, Woman's rights and before it's rot and corruption starting in the 80's the party waging a war against poverty. (it was the party of my ideals and beliefs and the reason I joined it in my youth). If it continues to be the anti-labor - jobs overseas, free trade, war on the poor, as well as perpetual bloodletting literal war party, the party to help enrich yet more the obscenely rich at the expense of everybody BUT the extremely rich. They can pound sand and I will vote my ideals, my vision, what the Democrats used to be.

wherever I can find a candidate that fits that mold no matter what if any party affiliation they identify with, that is who/what will earn my vote.

Quite simply, unless Sanders wins, and brings more like him with his coattails and we keep up the pressure to make it the party I joined so many years ago, then the brand is nothing but a cheap knock off, a brand that represents ripping off the workers, the poor and the soon to be nonexistent middle class beholden to, purchased by, and tools of the billionaire class, in other words not MY party and I will change affiliation accordingly.

that New democrat brand my friend is as toxic as Chinese lead painted toys and as poisonous as some Chinese manufactured dog food

I changed back to Bernie only because he is a real deal Democrat, like FDR. Without him, there is no reason to wear the cheep knock off "new Democrat" brand on a button or a registration card.

I totally get where you are coming from.

There's no way in which these predators are any better than any other predators.

They pull stunts like this and then go laugh among themselves about how stupid their supporters are.

This one's not buying it. Warren should be well able to see through it too.

When people show you who they are like this, you DO NOT talk yourself out of it. That is the first rule of self-preservation. Liz ignores it at her peril. I'm already looking at her side-eyed for not endorsing Bernie in a timely manner. I hope she's ok, and not cutting a deal to sell her soul.

H.R. 4018 Consumer Protection and Choice Act

http://www.responsiblelending.org/research-publication/oppose-hr4018

Or even suspect on good evidence, she would immediately endorse Bernie. She's shown on more than one occasion that she can handle herself in a throw-down, and this regulatory agency is her baby.

If they screw around with this and piss her off, she will go on a campaign tear the likes of which Team Weathervane has never seen. Elizabeth is no frightened little fool to be cowed by those with Power. She made a name for herself and then got elected by rightly calling that Power corrupt..

I would be very, very careful with this if I were Debbie. This isn't beanbag, and Warren can be a dangerous opponent.
Just ask the Senate Republicans.

It's also possible that Warren (behind the scenes) has revealed that she will not be endorsing Clinton OR that she is endorsing Bernie--and this is the backlash.

It's all speculation of course--but this isn't happening now at this very sensitive time, for no reason.

There's a backstory here.

Finding out what it is sooner rather than later could change some minds.
So probably later

She has not endorsed HRC and given to very favorable comments to Sanders as they share strong philosophical ties.
This is very clearly a mafia-style "we can help or hinder you agenda" message. That is how they play the game.
I don't think they considered the power and influence progressives can muster though.

Not a very thought out plan.

Inoculation, plain and simple.

just which party it is that is imploding this year

and I'd compare the Democratic implosion to underground fault lines slowly moving into place before an impending earthquake.

Both are imploding, in my opinion.

One is visible and explosive; the other is slow shifts that will set the stage for a big jolt very soon.

Going on at all levels, local, state, national.

I'm sorry you're surprised, but I'm not. Deep inside, I bet you're not either.

I guess I am just a little more cynical than you, but that was my immediate reaction. They expect Hilliary to win the White House and don't want any roadblocks to her policies to remain in place. Warren has not stepped out to endorse Clinton, so DWS is going to render her ineffective.

Sam

I feel sorry for anyone caught having to use those loans. But, some people really need them at times. There has to be a high default rate, thus a pretty high interest rate. If I thought just banning them altogether was right for folks who might need them occasionally, I'd be for just outlawing them and tar-and-feathering anyone who was in that racket. But, I'm not sure that's the right thing to do. Making the loan companies have to warn the heck out of those contemplating a loan is fine with me. I'd even be willing to pay an extra tax to help people who find themselves in that situation so they wouldn't have to take out a pay-day loan, but I suspect that would be an open-ended program.

it's not the payday part she objected to, but the predatory part!

so she's right in line with your criteria. and in fact, even more demanding, limiting just how badly the sharks can hike the interest rates.

Debbie Wasserman Needs to GO and never come back!! Maybe she should join Sanchez out in California and let a true PROGRESSIVE SERVE the people in her district in Florida...

Maybe it's a good thing...the way DWS and the Chosen One plot and
scheme, they always seem to shoot themselves in the foot. Maybe
we're witnessing that again, and Elizabeth will have had enough of
their happy horseshit and join Bernie. I just voted in Nash. Tn. and I
can hardly believe how good it feels to be fighting the good fight....
I am so over the force-feeding of the Corporate Schmooze Queen.
Thx again!

This is beyond reprehensible. If Clinton doesn't disown DWS over this action, then we should disown Clinton. And many will.

She couldn't be happy with just chasing away Bernie supporters, now she wants to start alienating Warren supporters.

She's trying to rip the party apart, and the only group that would benefit from this would be the Republicans.

I do not trust either one.

This election season is a referendum on the direction of the party and now DWS is doubling down against our own hard won financial industry checks.

Fuck 'em. Seriously.

HRC no matter what.

...DWS is a (1) Clinton bootlicker - both Bill and Hill - she likes her licks in pairs; (2) the worst Democratic Party Chair EVVVAAAHHH; and (3) a low-life scumbag for supporting the hideous payday loan industry. Talk about financial predators!