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tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:33 PM Mar 2016

Clinton's excuse for mixing personal and official SoS emails is totally bogus...

The former secretary of state says the reason she used her personal email for work is because she didn't want to operate multiple mobile devices while on the road.

However, in one email from 2010 in which Clinton asks Huma Abedin how to use her new iPad. Clinton regularly used a Blackberry device.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-10-months-thousands-pages-final-clinton-emails-be-released-n528286

I used to work for BlackBerry as an engineer and can tell you as fact: BlackBerry devices are designed such that both secure business communications (emails) can be separated by a firewall to a personal profile that can have all your personal apps, personal email account, etc. These are two different profiles on the phone, and BlackBerry phones are one of the only devices approved by the U.S. Government for official business due to there security.

The article states that Clinton used a BlackBerry device, so her excuse that she used the personal server for all of her personal AND official SoS emails so she wouldn't have to carry around multiple devices is totally bogus.
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Clinton's excuse for mixing personal and official SoS emails is totally bogus... (Original Post) tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 OP
Prepared to be called a right-wing shill revbones Mar 2016 #1
Yeah, I'm a RW shill, all right... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #4
Yep revbones Mar 2016 #6
. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #2
Truth is never dead. senz Mar 2016 #7
+1! NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #13
Facts are hard things and can land with immense force. senz Mar 2016 #18
.. tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #12
... Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #15
So, instead of getting into an adolescent pic/gif war... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #25
My original dead horse response is that this has been posted AD NAUSEAM Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #27
My main concern with all this email/server mess... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #31
And now we have actual movement nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #37
That excuse fell apart almost as quickly as her claim that there was no classified material Press Virginia Mar 2016 #3
Lies layered upon lies. senz Mar 2016 #21
Yep Press Virginia Mar 2016 #24
There is absolutely nothing that precluded her from using that giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #5
And now all of her " personal" emails will most likely be released now NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
So what? If not then ppl will just make up shit to suit their narrative. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #14
That's a fair view point NWCorona Mar 2016 #16
So you agree she should just come clean. senz Mar 2016 #23
Come clean about what, having a personal server? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #29
You where Sec of State? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #41
You're right, what she used was not a classified email system... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #26
No, no she wasn't. There is huge difference between something giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #30
Not true...there are lots of posts on DU explaining why it doesn't matter... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #32
Sloppy and sleazy. senz Mar 2016 #9
Quite frankly the email this is not the reason I won't vote for her NowSam Mar 2016 #10
Oh, I totally agree with you... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #19
So well said. Thanks. nt senz Mar 2016 #35
It's even more bogus. jeff47 Mar 2016 #17
Exactly! Hell, my 8 year old nephew can do that... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #22
Liars Gonna Lie. AzDar Mar 2016 #20
how is that even a crime. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #28
switching back and forth between what? tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #33
you have to switch back and forth between the two modes. i personally found that to be onerous. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #34
You're kidding, right? tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #36
actually i do. But even something this simple seems to be difficult for someone who wants to attack MariaThinks Mar 2016 #39
I'm not trying to attack, just pointing out obvious false excuses tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #43
I actually have four accounts on my Ipad nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #38
i've used the blackberry. it is a pain to remember to go back and forth MariaThinks Mar 2016 #40
that feature didn't become available on the BB until about 2012 if i recall. Hillary left SoS MariaThinks Mar 2016 #44
the feature did not become widely available until about 2012 if i recall MariaThinks Mar 2016 #45
due to Sanders supporters enthrallment with GOP propaganda: The Clinton e-mail ‘scandal’ that isn't Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #42
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
1. Prepared to be called a right-wing shill
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

That's all the argument that her supporters seem to have now.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
4. Yeah, I'm a RW shill, all right...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

Life-long Democratic voter. I've been a member of the party as long as I've been able to vote and my entire (immediate) family are Democrats.

So, whatever....bring it on!

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
6. Yep
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

Same here. But I've been called that just for pointing out facts. Funny thing is, Hillary supporters can't see facts anymore.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
25. So, instead of getting into an adolescent pic/gif war...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

Why don't you explain to me why you think her claim IS NOT bogus.

Have you ever set up email accounts on mobile devices? Tell me about your experience.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
27. My original dead horse response is that this has been posted AD NAUSEAM
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

for months, and it does NOTHING at this point except stir the pot and foment animosity towards each other.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
31. My main concern with all this email/server mess...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

Is that I don't want to see a president Trump...or Cruz...or Rubio

If this investigation keeps drip, drip, dripping and ends up breaking the dam if and after HRC wins the nomination, we are all going to be in a world of hurt.

I can't understand how Clinton supporters aren't willing to understand the tremendous risk here.

On edit: You didn't answer my question. Have you ever set up multiple (or even one) email accounts on a mobile device?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. And now we have actual movement
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

and over 100 FBI investigators looking at this, and Podesta is now acting the same way the Nixon WH did... how predictable

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
3. That excuse fell apart almost as quickly as her claim that there was no classified material
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

on her server, followed by not sending any classified materials

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
5. There is absolutely nothing that precluded her from using that
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

email for both business & personal. Please stop trying to pretend this was a classified email system it just makes you look totally uninformed.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
23. So you agree she should just come clean.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

When you want the most important job in the world, you need to show a little more respect for your future employers.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
26. You're right, what she used was not a classified email system...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

But it should have been because she was sending (and was having other send) classified material over a non-secure system.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
30. No, no she wasn't. There is huge difference between something
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

already being classified & classifying after the fact.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
32. Not true...there are lots of posts on DU explaining why it doesn't matter...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

from a security perspective if material is retroactively classified or not.

Google is your friend.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
10. Quite frankly the email this is not the reason I won't vote for her
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

The reasons I won't vote for her are:

Healthcare - I like Bernie's plan

$15 min wage - I like Bernie's plan

Tuition Free College - I like Bernie's plan

Climate Change - Bernie

Peace not war - Bernie

She is owned by her sponsors, Goldman Sachs

She is for and against TPP and Keystone Pipeline

and all of the other issues that Bernie talks about as she labels him a one issue candidate and smears smears smears him.

I can't stand how she steals his lines and his platform and tries to pass it off as her own.

Ultimately I don't trust her at all.

Bernie I do trust. Completely.

So the fact that Hillary got all mixed up in the email nonsense because she wipes hard drives with a cloth and such doesn't matter nearly as much as the other reasons I mentioned above.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
19. Oh, I totally agree with you...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

But one of my issues with her that overrides everything else is TRUST!

I don't believe a single thing that comes out of her pie-hole.

On second thought, I would believe what she said if I were able to see those speech transcripts from Goldman Sachs, but alas...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. It's even more bogus.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:43 PM
Mar 2016

She also has claimed she regularly traveled with her Blackberry, an iPad and a Kindle. She used that to emphasize how much she liked technology. Even made jokes about carrying around all these devices.

Why not set up the personal email on the iPad or Kindle?

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
33. switching back and forth between what?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:04 PM
Mar 2016

The article states that she uses a BlackBerry device. You only need to carry one device to have both business and personal email accounts.

It's really a no-brainer...trust me.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
39. actually i do. But even something this simple seems to be difficult for someone who wants to attack
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:06 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary to understand.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
43. I'm not trying to attack, just pointing out obvious false excuses
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

So, it's easier to go through the trouble of setting up a server in the basement of your house and routing all you official SoS emails through, plus take unbelievable risk at classified information being exposed on your personal non-secure server, than to take a few steps to switch between personal and "work" email accounts on your mobile device.

Utterly ridiculous.

My opinion: Hillary did this for several reasons, none of them good. She wanted very badly to maintain control over all her official communications, to the point of perhaps breaking the law.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
38. I actually have four accounts on my Ipad
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:44 PM
Mar 2016

and I do this easily.. not onerous at all. I have heard the blackberry is easier

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
40. i've used the blackberry. it is a pain to remember to go back and forth
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

and when you have hundreds of emails to work with, it becomes a nuisance to go back and forth.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
44. that feature didn't become available on the BB until about 2012 if i recall. Hillary left SoS
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

in 2012! She's guilty of not using something that was still to be released.

So the example of what she should have used was not even readily available and buggy in its early stages.

I wonder how much other crap thrown at Hillary withers under any logical scrutiny.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
45. the feature did not become widely available until about 2012 if i recall
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:59 AM
Mar 2016

she's guilty of not using something that hadn't been released yet.

shame on her.

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