Good lord.

At this point, 52 yes, 7 no.

For Bernie to support the ferociously anti-progressive forces of the right by not endorsing Hillary would be a great shock. I don't expect that.

his fans, though(?) ...

I know I won't vote for her and no one else who I have been working with will.

We got back into this party BECAUSE of Bernie Sanders and his willingness to stand up to the corruption that is the Clinton's and the DLC/Third Way.

Clinton as the candidate = President Trump.

We can argue, disagree, scold and correct one another but imo no one is so high and mighty that he can tell people what they are or are not.

moral superiority, which is exactly what the OP is against.

Because you are not morally superior to anyone else.

His name is Sendz

Just feels a little strange to be called "he." I picked the name out of nowhere, have no idea why or what it means.

Anyway, Feel the Bern, and on with the revolution!

the difference being one could possibly support Democrats; the other, never has.

We are all awaiting your brilliant analysis.

And if she loses or gets indicted, I expect she would endorse Bernie.

I do not expect any indictments, but if Hillary were to lose to Bernie, I think she would most assuredly endorse him.

She has, of course, actually done that before.

he would! I think Hillary would endorse Bernier if the situation were reversed.

like all good democrats should

I would hope not.

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...and if he goes back on that it will be a betrayal of his original premise of his campaign where he claimed he wasn't in the race as a 'spoiler.'

Bernie and Hillary should become allies to stop our domesticated version of Hitler in the form of Donald Trump...


But the choice isn't mine to make.


Oh, I violated Godwin's law, knowingly and willfully.

it's just a question of demonstrating it. And your analogy is very apt.

The Senator has no loyalty to the democratic party. I mean at least Trump hasn't given speeches to Wall Street. The nerve. :

That seem to be lacking in the DNC ...

He also expresses loyalty to the PEOPLE in the Democratic Party ...

The DNC's loyalties lie elsewhere ....

or perhaps you did not,

This is what I call shit stirring.

It's entirely possible that the OP genuinely doesn't know and is simply asking a question. Why the nastiness?

and the OP has participated in many of those threads. He knows the answer

This s why he got the reaction he got in the thread

The polls reflect the nervousness of Hill fans who are wondering how thoroughly they and their candidate may have alienated liberals and progressives.

heh

let's get to the convention - then we will talk

He's 5 days younger than me, so I have to assume he can make that decision on his own.

as a disclaimer.

to vote for HRC

He's said it time and again. It's not even a question worth polling. The salient question is what happens to the substantial portion of the base that will have been burned out on or burned by the Democratic Party, the DNC, and Hillary's campaign.

If I had to guess, I'd say those who are older and/or not first-time voters will hold their nose and vote for Hillary. As for the rest, I imagine that a lot of them will write in Bernie, or (more likely) not vote at all in the general; and a substantial chunk will never trust the Democratic establishment again.

months ago. I'm also confident he'll ask his supporters to do the same.

Whichever Dem candidate wins the most pledged delegates, the other will endorse. If it is Hillary who loses, based on past performance, she will also campaign enthusiastically on behalf of the winner.

While we have no past performance to judge what Bernie will do, I sincerely believe that he would also campaign on behalf of the winner because he understands how absolutely crucial it is for NO GOPer to get anywhere near the WH in 2016 - or perhaps ever again.

I know how I'm voting and nothing short of an act of God will change it.

seriously, what does this say about YOUR candidate?

think about it

that is not a loyalty oath

sorry but its hard to see this as anything but bait for a tos violation.

but i do agree that since he is running on the dem ticket, he would endorse the nominee, as she will if he is the nominee

its customary, and even this year, i don't see that tradition broken at least on the dem side.

he will serve as a model for all of us - on both sides

Those of us involved in the Sanders campaign know why we are here. SOME plan to vote for Clinton IF she wins.

Others have vowed to never pull a level for her.

Bernie asking them to do it will not change that opinion for one single person.

We ALL know Bernie will support the democratic nominee.. but we are not sheep.

There is no situation left in which I would vote for Hillary Clinton.

...I have no doubt he will, because he said he would.

And I will be disappointed in him when he does...but no one's perfect.

Bernie is not as bitter as some in his base are.

He's spent a lot more time trying to get sleaze out of nat'l politics than I have.

She's leveraged.

He's not.

Because he's not an idiot.

Sid

He is not as single-minded as some of his supporters. I support and will vote for Bernie in the MI primary next week. And if Secy Clinton gets the nomination I will support and vote for her.

Just like Bernie Sanders will.

With a sizable yet still pretty small group of his supporters. I don't think that is fair to himself. If Clinton wins, Sanders will stay true to his convictions and give an amazing endorsement speech.

In the spirit of party unity, I'll even ignore the potential for insult in this OP.

Obama is a fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice (Hillary), shame on me.

As will we all.

...someone who in office will do what lines the pockets of the Clintons at the expense of everyone else. It doesn't matter if Bernie endorses her, a significant percentage of Bernie voters have closely observed Hillary's actions during this campaign and they know her record and they will NOT vote for her. The threat of the Supreme Court be damned. By smothering the will of the people, Hillary will have destroyed the Democratic (actually un-Democratic Party) along with her mini-me, DWS!

will be every Republican.

Everyone with the ability to put a cogent thought together on the subject knows there is a world of difference between the Democratic candidates and anyone on the puke bench.

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But I still believe He will be our nominee. Hillary is just to corrupt and sold out.