2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Won Super Tuesday
Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday
Cenk Uygur
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Going into tonight it was unclear what was going to happen because the polling was so shoddy in some states, especially Colorado and Minnesota. Those two states are so important because of what they mean for the future.
It turns out that Hillary Clinton won all of the states she was supposed to win -- and a narrow victory in Massachusetts (remember she won Mass. by 15 points against Obama and still lost the primary in 2008). But Bernie Sanders had resounding wins in CO & MN. Those two states are much more indicative of the states that are coming in the rest of the primary schedule.
All of these Southern states were Hillary Clinton's best states (by the way, also irrelevant places to have strength in for the general election). She's used up most of her ammo and doesn't even know what kind of trouble she's in. Right before the voting, she pivoted toward the right again in anticipation of the general election. Big mistake. She can't help herself; she lives and breaths arrogance.
Tonight could have been the knock out punch if Clinton had won CO & MN. But she didn't! She lost them big. Now, he has a $40 million war chest and favorable map in front of him. Feel the Bern!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/why-bernie-sanders-won-su_b_9363416.html
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Really? They're indicative of FL, NC, LA, MS, MD, NY, NJ, PA, OH, MI, IL, MO, NM, CA, and so on?!?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Coherency goes a long way here. Just a helpful hint from a DU old timer.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)But let me elaborate more clearly. The OP is complete and utter top to bottom BS that does not deserve to be taken seriously, nor does it deserve a long winded rebuttal as though it made anything close to a logical point.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Enjoy your stay.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)Just let him have this. Reality is tough sometimes.
Further proving your ignorance.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)I stand by both of my responses to her however.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I tried watching TYT's coverage of the election events but they were too biased and I just couldn't stomach it, and I am undecided. In fact, I couldn't find any unbiased coverage accessible via my known sources so I watched Mondays' Daily Show and Nightly Show instead.
I think Cenk is a little over the top this election cycle.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)1. Denial and Isolation
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)on the Ides of March. Et tu, Bernie?
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)But then, I guess, as a Hillary supporter, you think that's okay. Your candidate voted for it.
Bernie Sanders voted against it, and led the opposition in the Senate.
As for the "Ides of March," it's become common coin as a harbinger for doom, so it's more forgivable, I guess, but its original meaning was the murder of Julius Caesar which was followed by very bloody civil war that tore the Roman Republic to pieces.
I hate to think of the Bushwhacks' "shock and awe" becoming common coin, too. Please don't help it do so.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)At no time did they state they were ok with the deaths of 100,000 people, nor did they imply it. Stop overreacting and reaching for things to be insulted by.
William769
(55,147 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Tanuki
(14,920 posts)question everything
(47,534 posts)and, by the way, Sanders was targeting five states to win on Super Tuesday.
Oh well. The manufacturing of sedating and comforting and for disillusions drugs must be happy.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)artyteacher
(598 posts)Now they've caught themselves a bubble of nonsense.
Fla Dem
(23,741 posts)They've drunk the kool-aid and are brainwashing their acolytes. I listened to Tom Hartmann a little this morning and he too was saying how it was a great night for Bernie. He then went on to mention the delegate counts and when listing HRC's he said he wasn't going to add the pledged delegates, because they could be changed ad don't really matter now. Lordy, lordy, lordy.
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)the next round of primaries.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)This thread is a good example of it.
The Bernie Sanders campaign represents the desires of millions of Americans for a more level playing field at home and a more peaceful foreign policy (such as that of President Obama and Sec of State John Kerry). It should hearten everyone who claims to be a Democrat that so many people are looking to the Democratic Party as a vehicle for economic fairness and the strengthening of New Deal policies, such as Medicare for all, that have been part of the Democratic Party platform for more than half a century--and that so many people support diplomacy and peace rather than belligerence and war.
To ridicule these efforts--and, in this case, an analysis of how this pro-people agenda can reach the Democratic Convention in August--seems Marie Antoinette-ish to me. "Let them eat 'neo-liberalism' and more Libya's!" Anyway, that's what you're saying to ME, when you simply laugh at the idea that the Bernie Sanders campaign can reach the convention with enough delegates to win, and if not win, profoundly influence Party policy.
I never see much analysis from Hillary supporters at DU. I mostly see snark and stomping on the "losers." In this case, how about some analysis of WHY the Bernie campaign should give up, when millions of small dollars keep coming in ($6 million in a day, this week) from people who don't have big dollars to contribute but want a voice in this campaign. Also, a candidate who wins four states on Super Tuesday including MN, won NH big, almost won MA, almost won IA, came close in NV and won Colorado as the campaign shifts west to the most progressive states (CA, WA, OR) with huge amounts of delegates to award, is certainly NOT out of the running.
Why not acknowledge this and have a good discussion about how the Democratic Party can become the "big tent" party again. It's not going to happen by sneering at the alternative news outlets that want this discussion.
You might want to address the divide in the Democratic Party between the have's (those who have power, those who have big bucks behind them) and the have-not's (those who feel poor and powerless and disregarded by the Party) instead of pissing on the have-not's. You might want to address the black-holing of the voices of the dispossessed in the Corporate Media.
You need us to win. You are not winning us. Millions of dispossessed Democrats, like me. Millions of Independents who have given up on the Democratic Party but might well vote for a New Deal agenda.
I've been an active, supporting, voting Democrat for more than 50 years. I am a woman and a Bernie Sanders supporter. I feel that I don't matter one bit to the power-and-big money Democrats who rule our party, and the Clinton supporters here at DU are making that alienation worse.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)He will reach the convention, I don't think anyone doubts that. What we're laughing at is the OP's horrible attempt to turn a significant night for Hillary into a win for Bernie. Turn this situation around. If Bernie had won 7 out of 11 states, 1 million more votes in the popular vote, and 200 more pledged delegates and we came out and said "This is a win for Hillary!", you guys would be screaming bloody murder and rightfully so.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Sure chief, whatever you say
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Hillary supporters act every bit as entitled as their candidate.
I'll remember that in the GE if she's the nominee.