2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPPP Is Going To Have FL And VA Polls Tonight
Hopefully we will be up in one or both or tied. We have to pin down the enemy there so he can't fight us in NH, NV, CO, OH, WI, and IA.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)I hate to sound panicky, but it seems like, when the results will be good news for progressives, they'll drop a few hints of PPPPolls. Has anyone heard anything like that today?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Obama doesn't need to win either state but hopefully he can make Romney spend time and resources there that could be spent somewhere else. Florida had a +5 Republican lean in 08. While Obama was winning the popular vote nationwide by seven percent he was only winning the popular vote in Florida by 2%. In Virginia there was no lean.
Mz Pip
(27,445 posts)I was feeling better yesterday since it seemed like things were turning around a bit.
I try not to take the polls too seriously but I'm not going to jump on some conspiracy theory bandwagon when they don't go our way.
I just hope the passionate and forceful Obama shows up for the next debate.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)They dropped hints early about their OH being way closer than their last one ... implying Romney was doing much better. So, I don't think they just drop good news hints. I've seen some bad news ones too.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)I'm guessing we'll see something like +5 Romney in Florida, +2 in VA.
I would think we're nearing the point at which Florida is quietly scrubbed off of Obama's list. It's naturally a very conservative place, and for whatever reason a lot of seniors seem to think Republicans are the people to keep Medicare & SS's flame burning.
If Florida shows a two point Romney lead or either are tied, the GOP are in trouble if Obama brings his A game to the debate.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)zach1845
(30 posts)I was obama I would really try hard for one of those states. If Romney takes both that leaves the door open if he is able to sneak by in OH or WI that would then leave it to CO, NV, NH, IO. most all of the polls show wisconsin show it within 2 or 3 points and they have been trending more republican. win VA and you dont have to worry about that.
ChiTownChavista
(55 posts)ignore them.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I thought trolls took the Sabbath off...
ChiTownChavista
(55 posts)I didn't know that I had wandered onto a Teabag forum.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Or one who will be consigned to that status soon.
Troll, I guess my answer will be revealed in the fullness of time...
ChiTownChavista
(55 posts)simply amazing. I hope you're not knocking on doors.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Pokoyo
(22 posts)I think VA will be another day. see their tweet yesterday https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/257280040612528129
zach1845
(30 posts)Is not in the bag for Romney. They are pretty accurate. Usually people argue including nate silver say them have a Democratic bias +3.1 However I dont buy it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)What's up with that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)three.
FL voted for Rick Scott two years ago. Remarkable Obama has kept even there this long.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)But I want us to keep them close just in case we could grab one of them.
FBaggins
(26,740 posts)So long as we hold on to OH and don't lose somewhere unexpected (PA, etc).
zach1845
(30 posts)about PA. WI would be of way more concern then PA.
underpants
(182,811 posts)the operation is jaw-dropping
and I am talking about the Kaine campaign. OFA merges with us soon. Look the.....out.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)6:30pm - 14 Oct 12
From twitter.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)rhombus
(696 posts)A Romney Florida loss is the end for him.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)After all, a) Romney gained 5 points since last time, and b) with PPP's 3.1-point Democratic lean (according to Nate, of course) this is really a 4.1-point Romney lead.
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(4,667 posts)jimdeed
(14 posts)Now all that has to happen is a good debate Tuesday.
The Format Favors Obama.
This election is his to win.