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Romney lead in GA shrinks from 21 to just 8 in new poll (Original Post) bushisanidiot Oct 2012 OP
Amazing. Only 8 pts ahead in GEORGIA! CurtEastPoint Oct 2012 #1
Remember, McCain won GA by only 5 points. bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #2
Georgia and South Carolina aren't as Republican as we think tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #3
yeah, funny how pollsters aren't polling much in red states bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #4
Not to be racial, but I think they undersample black voters, too... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #6
You can be damn sure theKed Oct 2012 #17
GA, SC and NC have had a huge Latino influx. They are slowly turning blue. morningfog Oct 2012 #8
agreed! bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #12
GEORGIA went for Bush by 16 points in 2004 TroyD Oct 2012 #13
When did we start writing off states anyway? We People Oct 2012 #9
In the entire South, it's a struggle between the old bigots & the rest of the region johnlucas Oct 2012 #18
What, no bounce? ProSense Oct 2012 #5
Why isn't showing up in the nat'l polls? demosincebirth Oct 2012 #7
I posted a few days ago courseofhistory Oct 2012 #10
The +21 was the Insider Advantage poll TroyD Oct 2012 #11
There is nothing at all odd about an 8 point margin. bornskeptic Oct 2012 #15
It was assumed that Romney would do much better than McCain in Georgia TroyD Oct 2012 #19
Romney by 11 is possible, but near the extreme edge of the possible bornskeptic Oct 2012 #20
I think you certainly could be right TroyD Oct 2012 #21
If my neighbor loses 13 lbs, it doesn't mean I lost 13 lbs Captain_truthteller Oct 2012 #14
GOTV should make it close as it was in 2008. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #16
Georgia has turned from dark red (yesterday) GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #22
Thanks for pointing that out! Looks like half of the confederate states are now pink! bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #23
Tis' pretty, ain't it? GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #24

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
2. Remember, McCain won GA by only 5 points.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

i'm not saying i think it will turn blue, but i think it will be as close or closer
than 4 years ago.

romney may have to pull resources from other states to try to shore up GA, AZ and NE.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
3. Georgia and South Carolina aren't as Republican as we think
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:52 PM
Oct 2012

I think both will at least come down to a 10 point gap. In fact, the last South Carolina poll (which was back in December) actually had Obama in the lead, and they just take it as a foregone conclusion that Romney's going to win there in a landslide. At least they pay a little more attention to Georgia.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
4. yeah, funny how pollsters aren't polling much in red states
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:54 PM
Oct 2012

i guess they don't want to show numbers getting worse for romney.
there were several polls in october 2008 for SC. none this year.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
6. Not to be racial, but I think they undersample black voters, too...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

Perhaps because many weren't registered or something, but with the Pres polling in the 90's among blacks, I would be surprised if the numbers don't shift a little bit, at least. Blacks are still a large demographic in the south.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
17. You can be damn sure
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:15 PM
Oct 2012

the campaigns have internal polls ongoing for both of those places, especially with numbers like that popping up.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
13. GEORGIA went for Bush by 16 points in 2004
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oct 2012

And by 5 for McCain in 2008.

Nate Silver says Romney will do better than McCain in Georgia, so this +8 number sounds about right.

But that would still be half of what Bush got in 2004, so that would still show a Republican decline since the Bush years.

We People

(619 posts)
9. When did we start writing off states anyway?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:45 PM
Oct 2012

It gives the impression that it's not important to vote (which is not true, of course).

It would make a big difference if they took away the voting machines

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
18. In the entire South, it's a struggle between the old bigots & the rest of the region
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:35 AM
Oct 2012

Slowly but surely the rest of us are whittling down that bigot block.
In North Carolina the scale has already tipped in our favor & soon more states will do the same with new people moving to the region.
Georgia is on the cusp & may just tip over this election.
Every Presidential election forward we're gonna break down the "Solid South" until the bigots' influence is decimated.

The country can't move forward until they're soundly defeated.
They're who are holding us back as a nation.
John Lucas

courseofhistory

(801 posts)
10. I posted a few days ago
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:48 PM
Oct 2012

that I felt in my gut things were going to improve for Obama and I really do think it's happening. After the VP debate, many people are re-thinking their jump on the Romney won the debate bandwagon! Good!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. The +21 was the Insider Advantage poll
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:02 PM
Oct 2012

It doesn't look like there's been a poll by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution yet, so it's hard to compare one pollster to the other without a previous baseline.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ga/georgia_romney_vs_obama-2150.html

Nevertheless, it's odd that Romney wouldn't be higher in this poll.

To quote Nate Silver a few weeks ago, "The polls have stopped. making. any. sense".

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
15. There is nothing at all odd about an 8 point margin.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:41 PM
Oct 2012

SurveyUSA polled Obama v Romney four times in the last year, and Romney's edge was 7, 8, or 9 eery time. The InsiderAdvantage 21 point difference and the Mason-Dixon 17 point spread are the ones that don't make sense. Georgia has a 45% minority population: approximately 30% black, 10% Latino, and 5% Asian or Native American. If those groups break like they have been polling nationwide, Romney would need about 90% of the white vote to win by 20%. That's not going to happen. He'd need around 25% of the white vote to win by 8%. He'll probably get something like that, depending on turnout.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
19. It was assumed that Romney would do much better than McCain in Georgia
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:08 AM
Oct 2012

For example, Nate Silver currently projects Georgia as going to Romney by 11 points, which would be twice the margin by which McCain won.

It will be interesting to see whether Silver is overestimating Romney's support there.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
20. Romney by 11 is possible, but near the extreme edge of the possible
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:07 AM
Oct 2012

when the 2008 result and the demographic factors are considered. It would mean Romney got slightly more minority otes than Obama got non-hispanic white votes. I'm sticking with predicting 7 or 8.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
21. I think you certainly could be right
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:13 AM
Oct 2012

There are demographic changes occurring which may reduce the expected Republican margin.

But Georgia has certainly been a tough state in recent decades. Clinton won it in 92, but probably because of vote-splitting with Bush and Perot, and missed out on it in 96.

It could be winnable in 2016 if Hillary runs (and I just posted an article about that.)

 
14. If my neighbor loses 13 lbs, it doesn't mean I lost 13 lbs
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

If Insider Advantage was Romney +21, it's possible that Insider Advantage still has Romney ahead by 21%.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
23. Thanks for pointing that out! Looks like half of the confederate states are now pink!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Oct 2012

what a lovely shade.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
24. Tis' pretty, ain't it?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oct 2012

Just realized I should have included the link!

http://electoral-vote.com/

Edited to add that Arizona has gone from pink (Oct 13thth) to outlined pink (yesterday & today)

Things are definitely moving in the right direction!

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