2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRomney lead in GA shrinks from 21 to just 8 in new poll
HAHA!
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/romney-tops-obama-in-georgia-as-economy-dominates-/nScjq/
CurtEastPoint
(18,646 posts)I voted for PBO already! More More More!!
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)i'm not saying i think it will turn blue, but i think it will be as close or closer
than 4 years ago.
romney may have to pull resources from other states to try to shore up GA, AZ and NE.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)I think both will at least come down to a 10 point gap. In fact, the last South Carolina poll (which was back in December) actually had Obama in the lead, and they just take it as a foregone conclusion that Romney's going to win there in a landslide. At least they pay a little more attention to Georgia.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)i guess they don't want to show numbers getting worse for romney.
there were several polls in october 2008 for SC. none this year.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Perhaps because many weren't registered or something, but with the Pres polling in the 90's among blacks, I would be surprised if the numbers don't shift a little bit, at least. Blacks are still a large demographic in the south.
theKed
(1,235 posts)the campaigns have internal polls ongoing for both of those places, especially with numbers like that popping up.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts).
TroyD
(4,551 posts)And by 5 for McCain in 2008.
Nate Silver says Romney will do better than McCain in Georgia, so this +8 number sounds about right.
But that would still be half of what Bush got in 2004, so that would still show a Republican decline since the Bush years.
We People
(619 posts)It gives the impression that it's not important to vote (which is not true, of course).
It would make a big difference if they took away the voting machines
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Slowly but surely the rest of us are whittling down that bigot block.
In North Carolina the scale has already tipped in our favor & soon more states will do the same with new people moving to the region.
Georgia is on the cusp & may just tip over this election.
Every Presidential election forward we're gonna break down the "Solid South" until the bigots' influence is decimated.
The country can't move forward until they're soundly defeated.
They're who are holding us back as a nation.
John Lucas
ProSense
(116,464 posts)demosincebirth
(12,537 posts)courseofhistory
(801 posts)that I felt in my gut things were going to improve for Obama and I really do think it's happening. After the VP debate, many people are re-thinking their jump on the Romney won the debate bandwagon! Good!
TroyD
(4,551 posts)It doesn't look like there's been a poll by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution yet, so it's hard to compare one pollster to the other without a previous baseline.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ga/georgia_romney_vs_obama-2150.html
Nevertheless, it's odd that Romney wouldn't be higher in this poll.
To quote Nate Silver a few weeks ago, "The polls have stopped. making. any. sense".
bornskeptic
(1,330 posts)SurveyUSA polled Obama v Romney four times in the last year, and Romney's edge was 7, 8, or 9 eery time. The InsiderAdvantage 21 point difference and the Mason-Dixon 17 point spread are the ones that don't make sense. Georgia has a 45% minority population: approximately 30% black, 10% Latino, and 5% Asian or Native American. If those groups break like they have been polling nationwide, Romney would need about 90% of the white vote to win by 20%. That's not going to happen. He'd need around 25% of the white vote to win by 8%. He'll probably get something like that, depending on turnout.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)For example, Nate Silver currently projects Georgia as going to Romney by 11 points, which would be twice the margin by which McCain won.
It will be interesting to see whether Silver is overestimating Romney's support there.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
bornskeptic
(1,330 posts)when the 2008 result and the demographic factors are considered. It would mean Romney got slightly more minority otes than Obama got non-hispanic white votes. I'm sticking with predicting 7 or 8.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)There are demographic changes occurring which may reduce the expected Republican margin.
But Georgia has certainly been a tough state in recent decades. Clinton won it in 92, but probably because of vote-splitting with Bush and Perot, and missed out on it in 96.
It could be winnable in 2016 if Hillary runs (and I just posted an article about that.)
Captain_truthteller
(14 posts)If Insider Advantage was Romney +21, it's possible that Insider Advantage still has Romney ahead by 21%.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Could be a swing state in 4 years.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)to pink (today) on electoral-vote.com.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)what a lovely shade.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Just realized I should have included the link!
http://electoral-vote.com/
Edited to add that Arizona has gone from pink (Oct 13thth) to outlined pink (yesterday & today)
Things are definitely moving in the right direction!