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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:25 PM Mar 2016

The map of wins is getting interesting, starting to show a north-south divide.

Last edited Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:51 AM - Edit history (2)

Tan are Hillary wins, Green are Bernie wins. But Iowa and Mass ought to colored differently, as they were virtual ties.

UPDATE: The map just got greener! Congrats Bernie on winning Nebraska, Kansas, and now Maine!!!

And the latest UPDATE: MICHIGAN!!!

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The map of wins is getting interesting, starting to show a north-south divide. (Original Post) reformist2 Mar 2016 OP
"But Iowa and Mass ought to colored differently, as they were virtual ties." wyldwolf Mar 2016 #1
Primaries aren't sporting matches, they're not winner take all. We shouldn't pretend like they are. reformist2 Mar 2016 #2
We should claim a loss is a tie, either wyldwolf Mar 2016 #3
For the purpose of analysis, they did equally well in Iowa and Mass. reformist2 Mar 2016 #5
For the purpose of YOUR analysis. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #6
nor is Oklahoma. What is has in common with New England is more attitude than latitude. bettyellen Mar 2016 #12
You are talking to someone who is counting votes before they are cast. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #4
maybe hillary did win mass and iowa griffi94 Mar 2016 #9
The map just got greener! Congrats Bernie on winning Maine! reformist2 Mar 2016 #24
They should be colored on a gradient indicating delegate proportion. yodermon Mar 2016 #10
The map is also available by county, which is also interesting. Agschmid Mar 2016 #18
and the lies in Nevada were so thick that it is hard to take the result too seriously. Vattel Mar 2016 #7
true oldandhappy Mar 2016 #8
hillary wins red states = worthless, bernie wins red states = massive revolutionary win lol nt msongs Mar 2016 #11
LOL except that's not what has been said. LOL retrowire Mar 2016 #15
This is such nonsense Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #20
Progressive wins in a non-Progressive state is news. Non-Progressive wins in a non-Progressive state Vote2016 Mar 2016 #16
Michigan and Illinois and Ohio and New York will fix that. DCBob Mar 2016 #13
The maps are showing a diversity divide Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #14
Ah yeah, there's race again HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #19
It's not about North and South, it's about diversity. Beacool Mar 2016 #17
Actually....it looks to me like Bernie struggles in states that are more diverse Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #21
True enough. And we could say Hillary struggles in states that are mostly white. reformist2 Mar 2016 #22
No,it's not North v.South. It's primaries in diverse sufrommich Mar 2016 #23
No, it is north vs. south. And we need the north to win. reformist2 Mar 2016 #25
So if you set aside Iowa and Nevada as 'ties', Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #26
Actually, Massachusetts was more of a tie than Nevada. reformist2 Mar 2016 #27
I think the black vote is ingrained to be pro-Clinton SoCalDem Mar 2016 #28
Looks very much like the MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #29

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
1. "But Iowa and Mass ought to colored differently, as they were virtual ties."
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:27 PM
Mar 2016

Do you apply that logic to everything?

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
9. maybe hillary did win mass and iowa
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

but she wouldn't have won those if bernie had gotten more votes hahahahaha
she also wouldn't be leading in the delegate count except for math hahaha

i like bernie. i like hillary. i'm happy to vote for either
but the tortured logic is too whacked not to point out lol

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
10. They should be colored on a gradient indicating delegate proportion.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

Map would still favor Hillary.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
15. LOL except that's not what has been said. LOL
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

What has been said is that it's obvious that Hillary, a centrist conservative, would win conservative Red States. Also, in the general, those states wouldn't benefit her.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
20. This is such nonsense
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:03 AM
Mar 2016

The southern states might be red because of the large numbers of Republicans there, but these are Democratic primaries. What it tells me is that the Democrats in the red states are well aware of how dangerous the GOP is, and don't have time to fiddle with the election, unlike many Bernie supporters who make nonsensical claims about how Hillary is the same as Trump. Red state Dems know better.

And the fact is that the Dems in those states are overwhelmingly black, an important voting block in the Democratic Party. And Hillary wins them. Bernie wins in less demographically diverse areas. That is not a winning coalition for a Democrat. Most whites vote GOP, so no Dem can win without a more diverse coalition.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
16. Progressive wins in a non-Progressive state is news. Non-Progressive wins in a non-Progressive state
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:53 PM
Mar 2016

is not really newsworthy.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
17. It's not about North and South, it's about diversity.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

So far, Sanders has won in mostly white states. Hillary has won in states where the majority of Democrats have been AA and Hispanic.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. Actually....it looks to me like Bernie struggles in states that are more diverse
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

...and does better in states that have a higher proportion of white voters.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. So if you set aside Iowa and Nevada as 'ties',
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:50 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie has now won 9 states and Hillary 10 that are not essentially 'ties'?

The only state on that map that surprises me is Massachusetts.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
27. Actually, Massachusetts was more of a tie than Nevada.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:53 AM
Mar 2016

I'm also still a little surprised Bernie lost that one, though.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
28. I think the black vote is ingrained to be pro-Clinton
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:09 AM
Mar 2016

which is kind of sad, since the Clintons talk a good line, but deliver little

I understand loyalty, but if Hillary can only win with black voters, she is NOT a national candidate (in my opinion)

Iowa...she barely won (more like a tie, what with the coin flips & all)
Massachusetts was razor-thin close
Nevada was won by Harry Reid putting a thumb on the scale at the last second..

Everything else was from states that Dems never/rarely carry in a general election and solely due to black voters

Her huge numbers in delegates are mostly due to the sooooopers..

I have nothing personal against her, but I am sick to death of the screaming into the microphone and her stilted awkward style..

trump will beat her..count on it..

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