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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:23 AM Mar 2016

Apparently The Secret is Out.... Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh




"A Surprising Look at Which Candidates Corporate America is Betting On"

Business Loves Hillary!!!!



Yep, it's a real Fortune Magazine cover -- it's just something she wants to keep in her past, now that she is a 'populist' all of a sudden.


"HEY WALL STREET --- PLACE YOUR BETS!!!!!"

Bidding starts at $225,000.00 Per Speech

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Apparently The Secret is Out.... Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP
HRC Is Owned By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Make No Mistake About Her Loyalties cantbeserious Mar 2016 #1
should be called a DIS-Honorarium tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #4
I own stock in some of those companies... Human101948 Mar 2016 #5
You can't believe they are wasting money like this? Gary 50 Mar 2016 #218
You are absolutely correct but... Human101948 Mar 2016 #220
Yes we are in complete agreement. It's not actually funding, it's bribing. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #221
YEAH! A president FOR the people! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #27
As defiled by Citizens United - the travesty written about in 1984. erronis Mar 2016 #168
so u think she is being disengenious in her push to the left? bjobotts Mar 2016 #214
Is that a serious question? StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #219
Actually, there's not much "thinking" required Plucketeer Mar 2016 #222
Thank you will print this off. gordianot Mar 2016 #29
That makes me sick. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #44
This needs it's own OP, cantbeserious... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #71
Done cantbeserious Mar 2016 #77
Thank You! Excellent post. Shocking. Eye opening. nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #137
Here Is The DU Primaries Web Link cantbeserious Mar 2016 #140
Surely, it cant be serious....... nolabels Mar 2016 #88
CANNOT be president OF THE PEOPLE. senz Mar 2016 #102
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #156
It's there for all to see. People just need to open their eyes. Broward Mar 2016 #2
This neat old DU post about this issue beyondbeyond Mar 2016 #31
I LUV her too.. asuhornets Mar 2016 #3
Question is why? Human101948 Mar 2016 #7
I expect asuhornets Mar 2016 #14
As you can see, she will do the opposite... dchill Mar 2016 #15
Based on what?. asuhornets Mar 2016 #21
Based on the OP. dchill Mar 2016 #23
Of Course he doesn't...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #26
But Hillary does!!!!! dchill Mar 2016 #32
Uh-huh. Aha Mar 2016 #36
47 years makes Bernie part of the establishment...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #104
The ONLY good part of the establishment....n/t Enthusiast Mar 2016 #172
Excuses Excuses...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #178
Are you aware there's a Hillary Group on DU? Plucketeer Mar 2016 #45
I'm very much aware asuhornets Mar 2016 #105
Well, you're "new" Plucketeer Mar 2016 #206
I've been coming to this board since Bush stole the election-not new at all...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #208
Sanders supporter trying to silence Clinton supporter in GD Primaries MyNameGoesHere Mar 2016 #203
They ALL do it??????? Plucketeer Mar 2016 #35
When the day comes, asuhornets Mar 2016 #111
I stand in awe Plucketeer Mar 2016 #120
Are you surprised? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #138
Not at all surprized Plucketeer Mar 2016 #146
Intellectually, asuhornets Mar 2016 #147
and we will suffer timmymoff Mar 2016 #150
And just where will this sudden enthusiastic support for Hillary come from? Enthusiast Mar 2016 #173
it's always been there..n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #174
She's underwater. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #188
If only I could write BIGGER checks. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #223
Yuck... asuhornets Mar 2016 #224
Your words: asuhornets Mar 2016 #149
Wrong Plucketeer Mar 2016 #154
Except people actually do care Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #40
No, they don't "all do it." Kall Mar 2016 #124
Three words you might want to google: Sanders Sierra Blanca pkdu Mar 2016 #135
Hey! That's fun. Here's some more mikehiggins Mar 2016 #215
Since my post wasn't in response to you , I can only assume you have been overcome by internet pkdu Mar 2016 #216
Because they all do it - makes it right? 840high Mar 2016 #176
Bernie has far more experience than Hillary. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #213
Three of those things are Republican positions. Dawgs Mar 2016 #34
A repug creation asuhornets Mar 2016 #114
It is also helping a lot of Americans RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #130
You sound like a Republican, she should try cutting the war budget. JRLeft Mar 2016 #37
I am no where near asuhornets Mar 2016 #116
No, you sound like Trump, strengthening the military. How much money is enough for the war budget? JRLeft Mar 2016 #119
Yeah, Keep telling yourself that. kath Mar 2016 #131
Do you have a clue about who she ACTUALLY is? I mean what she has ACTUALLY done? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #48
"Strengthen the military" is a good thing? tularetom Mar 2016 #51
Yooge plus one! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #175
OMG, like the military needs strengthening.... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #74
Well asuhornets Mar 2016 #118
Bad reasoning... phazed0 Mar 2016 #161
I did not say the military needs more money...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #162
My mistake then, but it sounds like you are in disagreement... phazed0 Mar 2016 #169
Strengthening veterans benefits, active military safety and health, YES! More weapons and wars, NO! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #183
i'm with that.....n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #184
Vets support Bernie All in it together Mar 2016 #185
Bernie is on the Veterans Affairs Committee. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #186
Hillary Clinton with all of her corporate backing could run as a Republican INdemo Mar 2016 #81
Um... from the person who helped write the TPP? Phlem Mar 2016 #110
+1 - They are freaking delusional if they think HRC is going to "make jobs" phazed0 Mar 2016 #160
Just like the jobs RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #126
Ok this Gwhittey Mar 2016 #142
Outsourcing of jobs. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #171
What's all this talk about strengthening the military? WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #192
So you've drinking the kool-aid that Hillary is serving. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #193
Just like I can't change your vote, asuhornets Mar 2016 #195
To me, facts matter. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #197
And Bernie is unknown, that's why he's losing...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #199
Sounds exactly like what a republican would say about their candidate Doctor_J Mar 2016 #209
thats all you got...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #210
"strengthen the military"? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #211
I'll be honest with you. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #28
That can also asuhornets Mar 2016 #94
Yes, it can. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #129
Ahh but see I did not like Gwhittey Mar 2016 #151
LOL, work for wall street? Or just uninformed? nt Logical Mar 2016 #153
Looking at the primary popular vote totals, a lot of people love Hillary wyldwolf Mar 2016 #6
A George Carlin quote or two comes to mind. bvf Mar 2016 #24
Heh UNinformed people Plucketeer Mar 2016 #49
who knew? Shadowflash Mar 2016 #8
But remember: you mustn't accuse them of voting against their self-interest! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13
Haha! Shadowflash Mar 2016 #16
And yet they ridicule the Repubs for doing the same. Broward Mar 2016 #20
Precisely! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #22
Oprah is weathly, so are JayZ and Beyonce...and a few others noiretextatique Mar 2016 #100
No difference between the way they govern. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #79
Seems like a whole lot of people "luv" her... Agschmid Mar 2016 #9
More importantly can Harvey Weinstein get his mojo back???? hollysmom Mar 2016 #10
They seem to keep making her look younger and younger in photos notadmblnd Mar 2016 #11
Because the cover is from 2007, nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #46
I prefer this one :) pinebox Mar 2016 #12
Me too. dchill Mar 2016 #17
That would be cool to have blown up as a poster and framed. n/t TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #18
Awesome! But ... Is that an old photo? You'd think ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #19
That's awesome? sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #38
I think they only see Plucketeer Mar 2016 #59
The cover is from 2007 nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #50
That was implied in the OP Armstead Mar 2016 #58
No, she has never tried to keep support for business in the Progressive dog Mar 2016 #65
Well over on DU forms we see Gwhittey Mar 2016 #134
That doesn't make any sense nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #143
The desperation is palpable. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #159
Pfffpt.. lol. phazed0 Mar 2016 #165
I am guessing this is the cover of an old Fortune issue Karma13612 Mar 2016 #182
Who didn't know? They have been paying her off since the jwirr Mar 2016 #25
It boggles my mind as to how misinformed readers of Furtune magazine must be FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #30
I'm with Her. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #33
Why would you be for someone sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #47
They just don't seem to actually know anything -- no facts, no history, no record. Nothing pdsimdars Mar 2016 #52
we just don't know him. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #56
banks and stuff ! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #54
IKR? treestar Mar 2016 #60
For Chrissake, I have money in banks too, sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #122
Just not true treestar Mar 2016 #128
Yeah right. RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #133
Did you read what I wrote? sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #139
Me 2...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #163
I am going to have such a hard time voting for her if she's our candidate. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #39
If she doesn't earn your vote, don't give it to her. Easy as that. n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #179
And yet, her supporters will find another excuse, rationalization or blame you for bringing it up pdsimdars Mar 2016 #41
The Junior Senator from NY in 2007, Hillary Progressive dog Mar 2016 #42
She's not the one showing up at college campuses promising impressionable students Trust Buster Mar 2016 #43
I'm 63 and he's not bamboozling me Armstead Mar 2016 #53
That's nice but you're two years away from Medicare and not staring college debt in the face. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #63
Unfortunately i can't afford to be bamboozled either Armstead Mar 2016 #80
C'mon, they're kids. They don't think long term at that age. Bernie knows that. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #83
Maybe Hillary should stop promising too then Armstead Mar 2016 #84
Hillary is promising what Elizabeth Warren is working on. Lowering students interest rates. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #89
I disagree that he is pandering while she is not Armstead Mar 2016 #98
Good debate. Thank you Trust Buster Mar 2016 #101
Me too. 63 and the rest. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #177
what garbage stupidicus Mar 2016 #61
(See Elizabeth Warren) Trust Buster Mar 2016 #67
that doesn't help alleviate the stench of your garbage at all stupidicus Mar 2016 #69
Very polite post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #73
thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Mar 2016 #86
I referred to no one as mentally disadvantaged nor was I rude to you personally. Good day. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #92
of course you did stupidicus Mar 2016 #103
Good day. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #108
Give this meme a break. Bernie says over and over it isn't going to happen in the first 100 days. libdem4life Mar 2016 #62
Sanders knows that these college students are distressed financially and seek immediate solutions. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #72
There's no point. There is no vision...just crying about the Republicans. Bernie knows that, too. libdem4life Mar 2016 #202
Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 103 cantbeserious Mar 2016 #64
If by Establishment FUD, you mean Congressional reality, then I agree. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #76
No - Establishment FUD - Promoted By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Mar 2016 #78
Your broad generalizations aside, Bernie knows he can't deliver what he promises to these kids. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #85
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #87
Not my opinion at all. The Dems stand a good chance to take back the Senate. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #91
There Are Effectively Six Parties In America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own Three cantbeserious Mar 2016 #95
I was talking about political reality as it exists in a polarized country and a Republican House. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #97
This Citizen Speaks Reality - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Own America cantbeserious Mar 2016 #99
Until we have the support of Democrats and a sigificant part of the Republican base, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #106
Yes - This Citizen Can Imagine That cantbeserious Mar 2016 #109
Like Bernie said, "A political revolution." WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #194
George Carlin was a genius! Thank you! senz Mar 2016 #107
Keep up pdsimdars Mar 2016 #66
Nothing big is ever achieved with timing this bad. Given the state of this polarized country, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #82
Sure imari362 Mar 2016 #70
Because the Democrats will support her initiatives unlike Bernie's. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #96
Fantasyland.......... imari362 Mar 2016 #166
They are not supporting him now, are they ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #167
What vote count, specifically, are you talking about? Enthusiast Mar 2016 #187
The Democrats in Congress wouldn't waste their political capital to push for Trust Buster Mar 2016 #190
Every Democrat worthy of the name will work toward Medicare For All every chance they get. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #191
No, she's the one making sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #112
A Republican-controlled House during the next presidency will beat Bernie with the Trust Buster Mar 2016 #125
Elect Clinton sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #132
Yes, because why would a Democrat President want the support of Democrats in Congress or Trust Buster Mar 2016 #136
Please, she will strike the easiest sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #141
Geez, I wish I were gifted with your clairvoyance. Just say you support Bernie. That's easier. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #155
It doesn't require clairvoyance sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #157
I've been reading FlaGranny Mar 2016 #212
People don't seem to understand the history of Teddy Roosevelt. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #217
No! You are misrepresenting what Bernie has said. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #180
Lincoln started the free land grant state universities. All in it together Mar 2016 #189
You gonna believe a magazine with air-brushed cover photos? HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #55
You expect us to see a problem here automatically treestar Mar 2016 #57
+1 salinsky Mar 2016 #90
If big businesses do well, that SHOULD mean more and better jobs. raging moderate Mar 2016 #198
That cover is a dream-come-true. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #68
NINE year old magazine cover. Who cares? Clinton will still win the nomination and Presidency! George II Mar 2016 #75
here's a funny thing hfojvt Mar 2016 #93
GOP is strong in Gwhittey Mar 2016 #144
Now the MSM is trying to rewite history Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #145
I never said anything about Bern or Bern victims. hfojvt Mar 2016 #148
K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #115
OMG LOL I'm dying tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #117
The capitalists are making an investment with an expectation of a healthy return. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #121
K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #123
They may think that stealing from Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #127
They think they don't need us All in it together Mar 2016 #196
Her husband was good for all classes. Fine with me. nt OhZone Mar 2016 #152
Wall Street Projects Hillary Clinton Will Be Next U.S. President LS_Editor Mar 2016 #158
I see dollar signs in her eyes. nt zentrum Mar 2016 #164
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #170
Nice catch, thanks! nt MaeScott Mar 2016 #181
Why didn't you give us all the date of that magazine? George II Mar 2016 #200
Their opinion hasn't really changed over the years Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #201
Sanders' opinions haven't changed over the years either? George II Mar 2016 #204
Yes- I have resident quotes along the line of blondie58 Mar 2016 #205
I've got donations by the Sachs! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #207

Gary 50

(381 posts)
218. You can't believe they are wasting money like this?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:21 AM
Mar 2016

Are you kidding. The very best investment corporations make is when they buy politicians. I believe the average return is about one hundred to one. No way to know exactly but you can be absolutely sure of one thing, it not charity.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
220. You are absolutely correct but...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

I certainly do not support corporations funding politicians--thus it is, for me, a waste of money.

(And I was mocking the constant whining of the right wingers about "wasting our tax dollars&quot

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
222. Actually, there's not much "thinking" required
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

If one can read the bottom half of that Forbes cover, one can conclude which way Dame Hillary leans.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
44. That makes me sick.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

That deserves it's own post, if you haven't already. You might want to add a puke alert.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
88. Surely, it cant be serious.......
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

Like it shows that Goldman Sachs even had her come back twice because they were having so much fun.....

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
14. I expect
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

JOBS!!!, expansion of the ACA, protect SS, strengthen the military, protect us from terrorism, and I believe she will be a great President because she is qualified over Bernie and the Repugs put together.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
15. As you can see, she will do the opposite...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

of all that you expect. The bottom line is the bottom line.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
21. Based on what?.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

I don't care about paid speeches-they all do it. Transcripts-who cares. Really no one cares-not even the repugs. Some act as if she is this evil woman out to destroy America. When the opposite is true. Bernie has a very high learning curve for the job and that's not going to work.

 

Aha

(53 posts)
36. Uh-huh.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie's in the public service for 47 years.

FLOTS and FLOTUS do not count as public service.

All in all, she has only done 12 years of public service.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
45. Are you aware there's a Hillary Group on DU?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

Instead of derision and dispersal, posts such as this string will generate cheers and concurrance.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
105. I'm very much aware
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

of the Hillary Group. But this is GD: P. I can post why I support Hillary here. This is not Bernie Underground.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
35. They ALL do it???????
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie's not broken the two thousand dollar mark yet. And what he DID GET as compensation, he gave to charity. But of course, as you observe, Bernie's just one more of "they all do it".

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
111. When the day comes,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

and you find out that Bernie is just a politician like all the rest, it will be a sad day for you. Here's a handkerchief now.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
138. Are you surprised?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

A group people that think a WHITE man fighting for Civil Rights in 1960s is some how now a thing that does not mean much? I know I wish I was type of person like Sanders is.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
150. and we will suffer
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

everywhere else, as usual. lose more house and senate seats, have more obstruction, have less activism for the party..it should be great, let the exodus begin.

Docreed2003

(16,862 posts)
40. Except people actually do care
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

Many, including myself, want to know, and frankly deserve to know what she said in private to those companies to deserve such reimbursement. I refuse to blindly accept that there's nothing there just because a candidate says its so. And I can assure you the repukes care and it will be used against her in the general if not addressed now

Kall

(615 posts)
124. No, they don't "all do it."
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

That assertion is simply untrue, like many of the Clinton campaign's arguments. That you don't care that she does it and others do not is not the same thing.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
135. Three words you might want to google: Sanders Sierra Blanca
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

or three more: Sanders Burlington College

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
215. Hey! That's fun. Here's some more
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:24 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton---Goldman Sachs
Hillary Clinton---Walmart
Hillary Clinton---Obama Boys
Hillary Clinton---private prisons
Hillary Clinton---Libya
Hillary Clinton---Honduras
Hillary Clinton---Henry Kissinger
Hillary Clinton---welfare reform
Hillary Clinton---predators

Lots more where they came from.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
216. Since my post wasn't in response to you , I can only assume you have been overcome by internet
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:40 AM
Mar 2016

butthurt.

Please complete the form below , take a ticket and I will get back to you shortly.

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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
213. Bernie has far more experience than Hillary.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:37 AM
Mar 2016

He was the mayor of Burlington, Vt. for, I believe, four terms.

He went into the House in 1992 and has been in Congress ever since. I think he went into the Senate in 2006.

He served on the Budget Committee (ranking member) and has worked on the Veterans' committee for years. He has worked on many, many committees an issues.

He has far more experience than Hillary.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
34. Three of those things are Republican positions.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

ACA is a Republican creation and more war should never be part of any democratic platform.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
130. It is also helping a lot of Americans
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

who fall in the middle, go broke, because their insurance premiums go up exponentially, while the executives of insurance companies continue to deny coverage to specific things, while raking in billions of dollars. The ACA was a handout to the insurance companies.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
116. I am no where near
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

sounding like a repug. I am not a purist. Bernie can't just fall from the sky and be a Democrat for 8to9 months and thinks everyone is to receive his anti-Obama message, especially since Obama is very popular with Democrats.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
119. No, you sound like Trump, strengthening the military. How much money is enough for the war budget?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
48. Do you have a clue about who she ACTUALLY is? I mean what she has ACTUALLY done?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

Apparently that isn't on your list of "things to vote for".

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
51. "Strengthen the military" is a good thing?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

Are you on Uranus or somewhere? Strengthening the military is about 90% of what's got us into the mess we're in right now. And strengthening the military won't protect us from terrorism either, probably just the opposite.

You just pulled a bunch of stuff out of the air didn't you?

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
161. Bad reasoning...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you for your service.

I just don't think that the Military should have more money because you served... or go to more war "just because". I don't think your reasoning should be "I served the Military, therefore, they need more money".

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
169. My mistake then, but it sounds like you are in disagreement...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

First for responding to:

"OMG, like the military needs strengthening...."

then you say:

"I am a 21 year air force veteran retired so yea."

Which sounds like you are agreeing that the Military needs strengthening.

Of course there is the whole voting for Hillary thing that says you are for strengthening and pouring money into the Military!

All in it together

(275 posts)
185. Vets support Bernie
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:03 PM
Mar 2016

He's been working for Vets very hard and got together with John McCain to improve treatment for vets. Also voting to keep us from going into Iraq he knew would take many American lives and limbs, not to mention the effects of PTSD and 22 vets committing suicide daily.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
81. Hillary Clinton with all of her corporate backing could run as a Republican
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

and the establishment would be very Happy..The Republicans would not have to contend with the leading Fascist on the ticket.
Hillary would be like their Ronald Reagan all over again....put an R in front of her name and they would love her.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
160. +1 - They are freaking delusional if they think HRC is going to "make jobs"
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

of any meaningful capacity or quality.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
126. Just like the jobs
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

that those companies sent overseas. Just like the handout to insurance companies. just like the expansion of the war machine, which raises our taxes.
Qualified??? Technically, the only qualification is that someone is a natural born citizen of the US, 35 years of age or older, who has lived in the US for ten years. Please explain to me how others, in specific, Sanders does not meet these qualifications, or how she meets these technical qualifications more, as you say.
Thanks in advance.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
192. What's all this talk about strengthening the military?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

More than half of our entire budget is now spent on the military.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
193. So you've drinking the kool-aid that Hillary is serving.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

Who she pals around with should, but it probably won't, give you a picture of what she's going to be like as president.

She takes advice and considers him a good friend, war criminal Henry Kissinger.

The Bush Crime Family consider her part of the clan. GWB considers her his sister-in-law.

She pals around with Lloyd Blankfein.

She considers herself as part of the 1% but pretends she cares about the 99%. Case in point, wall st bigs have said that either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton would be fine with them to become president. Now that Jeb's gone, they're pro Hillary all the way.

She won't release her Goldman Sachs transcripts because of the glowing remarks she made about them. People at the speeches have said that it was a positive image of wall st that she remarked on. Her speeches are against everything that she's said about reining them in. Yes, I know, the rest should release their speeches before she releases them. Why? Who gives a crap about republicans, we all know they're pro wall st and their transcripts will show them heaping praise on them. Bernie has nothing to show because he never gave speeches to wall st. If she has nothing to hide, then release them. There's the rub, she does have something to hide, which will make her look hypocritical.

Everything you expect won't get done. She's against universal health care because her buddies, big pharma and big insurance, don't want it. I have never, ever, met a democrat that was against universal health care until Hillary said she was against it, and of course, her supporters are against it now.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
211. "strengthen the military"?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

None of the rest of the things you list can happen if she increases the war budget. We are spending twice as much on death in real dollars as the U.S. did under Reagan...and the Cold War is over.

We need to get out of the war business, other than defending our own territory from attack. Every other use of U.S. force is only going to be fighting for the rich.

And there's nothing we can do in the Arab/Muslim world using force. At least nothing positive.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
28. I'll be honest with you.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

I think that adoration of a politician, any politician, clouds one's judgement, and if people elect one for that reason, very bad things are likely to happen. A representative democracy works only with informed and skeptical citizens, not worshipers.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
151. Ahh but see I did not like
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders and then liked his polcies. I was for exctly what he has said for years, I just never knew him untill he ran for POTUS, then I looked into his history and said, dam here is guy who wants same things I do and he was a Civil rights activist in 1960s. That someone I want leading country. And when I saw other canidiate use dirty tactics to say he and his supporters are racist that just sucks.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
22. Precisely!
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

I have zero doubt that some of the people who've thrown a fit over even hinting that black Democratic voters (who are not wealthy) are voting against their self interest have no problem saying that about working class people (of whatever race) who vote Republican.

Hillpocrites...

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
100. Oprah is weathly, so are JayZ and Beyonce...and a few others
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

You might want to rethink that comment. If you were a Sanders' supporter, the AA outrage brigade would have tarred and feathered you by now: symbolically, of course. Are you one of their approved white spokesfolk? Then it's okay.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Awesome! But ... Is that an old photo? You'd think ...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

... they would have used a more current photo of her.

GO, HILLARY! WE LOVE YOU!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
38. That's awesome?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

How so? The point was, and evidence suggests, that Hillary Clinton is a highly paid corporate tool. How is that awesome?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
59. I think they only see
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

the smiling abuela. The implications of the magazine the image is on and the headlines that accompany are invisible.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
58. That was implied in the OP
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

Perhaps the phrase "something she wants to keep in the past" is too subtle for some people.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
65. No, she has never tried to keep support for business in the
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

past. It is going to be tough to continue to create jobs without business helping. Perhaps, the concept of people working for businesses is too subtle for some people.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
134. Well over on DU forms we see
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

That Big Corps are bribing our candidates

But have fun posting that in your bubble here on Sean Hannity forums.



edit: whoops sorry about that I post on both and read comment too quick and thought I was on the GOP forum.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
159. The desperation is palpable.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

I guess when the "Goldwater Girl" attack failed, they decided to go a bit more contemporary ... like 2007.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
165. Pfffpt.. lol.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

You are one to talk about attacks. They decided to go a bit more contemporary? Who lost in 2008 against those "contemporary" attacks? Hmm.

But really, NurseJackie, I have seen you all over this forum with "questionable" and snide attacks on BS. Just look at NurseJackie's journal or your postings.

Oh yes, you are holier than thou.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
182. I am guessing this is the cover of an old Fortune issue
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

Not a new issue.

She isn't that young looking now.

but, due to taking good care of herself, she has always been a very youthful looking person.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
30. It boggles my mind as to how misinformed readers of Furtune magazine must be
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

if they are surprised by this. The worm has turned.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
47. Why would you be for someone
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

who makes her living shilling for Wall Street? Remember the Great Recession that began in 2007? How did that work out for you? Wall Street banks were her biggest contributors while the economy was melting down and she was running for president.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. IKR?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016
People have money in banks. I have some and some even invested in Wall Street. I don't have much, but I'd like to have more. I want the US economy to do well and so do most of us.
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
122. For Chrissake, I have money in banks too,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

and investments on Wall Street, and I want fucking Wall Street regulated the way it was before Bill Clinton unleashed the bastards and cost me and millions of other people a fortune in 2007. How believing someone who supported the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, NAFTA, runs a crooked tax-exempt foundation, and supported the Iraq War gives a rat's ass about how either of us do economically escapes me, regardless of the pseudo populist campaign rhetoric that will be discarded her first day in office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
128. Just not true
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

Propping up a misguided theory. You expect us to believe the foundation is crooked because you want it to be. Hillary will enforce all regulations.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
139. Did you read what I wrote?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

What misguided theory? Do you really think the money won't flow into the Clinton Foundation if she is elected? Why don't you check the list of her campaign contributors against the list of her foundation donors. Presidents are obliged constitutionally to enforce the law. Was there some point to your statement about regulations?

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
39. I am going to have such a hard time voting for her if she's our candidate.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016
And I will never send her a dime or give her one second of my time.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
43. She's not the one showing up at college campuses promising impressionable students
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

free college, free healthcare and a $15/hr. national minimum wage all the while knowing that a Republican-controlled House will not let those promises see the light of day during the next presidency. She's not the one stooping to such dishonest pandering.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
53. I'm 63 and he's not bamboozling me
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

I've agreed with Bernie since the 90's when he was pointing out unpleasant truths that have come to pass, thanks in large part to the collaboration and/or defeatism of Democrats like Clinton.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
63. That's nice but you're two years away from Medicare and not staring college debt in the face.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

These college kids need realistic "short term" solutions and Sanders is promising them a pipe dream. You can afford to be bamboozled. They can't.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
80. Unfortunately i can't afford to be bamboozled either
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

And I think most of those those college kids are not expecting miracles overnight.

Hillary is also promising to lower their debt load -- smaller promises but no more likely to happen within their college careers either.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
84. Maybe Hillary should stop promising too then
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

But I would say some do think long term, some don't.

Boneheads and intelligent people come at all ages.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
89. Hillary is promising what Elizabeth Warren is working on. Lowering students interest rates.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

That is a realistic goal. Young adults by nature think short term. In this day of instant gratification, Bernie knows what dinner bell he's ringing.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
61. what garbage
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

like a rightwing controlled congress is gonna let anything through but her rightwing garbage

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
69. that doesn't help alleviate the stench of your garbage at all
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

whereas a reminder of what they've done as obstructionists throughout the BHO admin seals the deal for me.

so run along with your garbage, eh?

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
86. thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

and a whine about "polite" coming from someone who just blanketed all of american youth with an ignorant/impressionable charge in a failed effort to insult BS with what, dishonesty/taking advantage of the mentally disadvantaged charge, is hillarious

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
103. of course you did
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

Search Results
im·pres·sion·a·ble
imˈpreSH(ə nəb(ə l/
adjective
adjective: impressionable

easily influenced because of a lack of critical ability.= disadvantaged

and were

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
62. Give this meme a break. Bernie says over and over it isn't going to happen in the first 100 days.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

There's this thing called Vision, without which NOTHING ever gets done. Followed up by Leadership which is the spark that ignites the third necessary element...Action. How long did it take for LGBT rights? As I recall, the final word was from none other than PBO. I saw that speech, and from there on...well, you know what happened...

Social Security was FDR "pandering? That's what they said then.

The same is true for "no, we can't"...that's "bringing to heel" any progress or forward motion and surely requires nothing more spectacular than looking to the past. That used to be a Republican value. It's morphed into the Democratic Party and I Want My Party Back.

Yes, we can...Start to move in the direction that most all other civilized and some so-called uncivilizaed nations see as Human Rights.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
72. Sanders knows that these college students are distressed financially and seek immediate solutions.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

100 days ? Sanders knows that, due to Republican gerrymandering after the 2010 census, the House will be controlled by Republicans throughout the next presidency. I've never heard him admit that to these students. As for a long term movement, it requires reaching out to the Republican base to put the necessary pressure on Congress to defy the special interest. That environment does not exist today. Teddy Roosevelt understood this. Why doesn't Sanders understand that ? And do get me starting about the Supreme Court hanging in the balance.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
202. There's no point. There is no vision...just crying about the Republicans. Bernie knows that, too.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:46 PM
Mar 2016

What's he to do...go with the Corporate Candidates ... "We got ours...sucks to be you."? Or, It's too tough out there...better batten down the hatches and wait for better weather.

That's what I hear...and not just from you. And to give that We Cant meme with the rest of your post is like Politics 101...for freshmen. It's close to insulting just to make a point. All breathing DUers know that is what appears to exist today.

What did FDR do? He didn't cry in his beer. He did just what Bernie is doing...Yes, we can...Yes, we will. And to do it, Millenials, we need you. Oh, and by the way, most Millenials are better educated and aware than the general public is aware of.

I'm clear your position will get Nothing Done or take decades...because that's what you expect.

One does not change a broken/rigged system by the same rules/mentality/memes that created it. Forgot which wise person first made that quote.

Go, Bernie. We can do it !

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
91. Not my opinion at all. The Dems stand a good chance to take back the Senate.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

But, due to gerrymandering, the Republicans will have a lock on the House until the 2020 census at least. That's a statistical fact and not opinion.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
95. There Are Effectively Six Parties In America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own Three
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

Republican - Corporate - Ownership Obvious

Republican - Tea Party - Funded by O, C, B

Democratic - Corporate - Compromised by O, C, B Through Efforts Of The DNC, DWS, DLC and Third Way

Democratic - Progressive - Sick and Tired of The DNC, DWS, DLC and Third Way

Independent - Sick and Tired of Both Establishment Parties

Apathetic - So fed up that voting is not worth the time and effort


So - What Is Being Regained Other Than Continued Ownership By The Same Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
97. I was talking about political reality as it exists in a polarized country and a Republican House.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

I wasn't talking theory.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
106. Until we have the support of Democrats and a sigificant part of the Republican base,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

political reality will continue to rule. Teddy Roosevelt worked with the progressive magazines of the time to persuade the base of the opposition party to pressure their politicians to stand up to the special interests. Can you imagine a President Sanders, in this politically polarized environment, reaching out to FOX, Limbaugh, Beck or Breitbart to push for Medicare for all, free college, expanded Social Security and a $15/hr. National minimum wage ? Timing is everything to a movement. The timing is bad right now especially with the Supreme Court hanging in the balance.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
194. Like Bernie said, "A political revolution."
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
107. George Carlin was a genius! Thank you!
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

"They don't want well informed people capable of critical thinking."

"They want your Social Security money, and they'll get it."

"Good honest, well-intended people keep electing these rich ****'s who don't give a damn about you."

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
66. Keep up
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary hasn't promised a thing except words, just like Trump. He says he'll make America great again and Hillary says she'll make America work for everyone, or some such nonsense. Bernie has been the ONLY candidate to put out what he actually wants to do, that's why you have something to attack without offering anything up yourselves. But he has also put out how he plans to finance his plans and has also talked about how he can get things rolling.
Hillary's plan is like Obama's, well she'll TRY to do something but that mean old congress won't let her so she'll settle for almost nothing.
No goal is ever reached by that thinking. You have to set a goal and go for it. Remember Kennedy and going to the moon. We didn't even have that technology to do it but he said we would and we did.
And do you think FDR had a totally willing congress during his time? If everyone was cooperating why did he say the welcomes their hatred? All those congress members from the south weren't clamoring for Civil Rights act but LBJ pushed and cajoled them and he got that done too.
THE POINT: NOTHING BIG IS EVER ACHIEVED BY AIMING SMALL.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
82. Nothing big is ever achieved with timing this bad. Given the state of this polarized country,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie would not have chosen this moment in time if he were a 50 year old Senator with a quarter of a century of opportunity ahead of him. He has been unable to attract the numbers he needs for this revolution because the country knows in it's gut that the time is just not right.

imari362

(311 posts)
70. Sure
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

The very same Republican Congress that has had the cake-baked for her for years now?
She will get 10x's worse than what we seen from them with President Obama.
I believe just as a bogus "scandal" to impeach her in his second term, she will be impeached(mostly just as bogus) in her first and only term.
Why would anyone who's supposedly paying attention float such an idea that she will fair so much better than Bernie?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
96. Because the Democrats will support her initiatives unlike Bernie's.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

The vote count reflects this reality. You have know chance with Republicans without the backing of Democrats. That simple.

imari362

(311 posts)
166. Fantasyland..........
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

Democrats in Congress WILL not support a Bernie Sanders Presidency?
They will just sit on their hands and let Republicans eviscerate a Democrat President because he wasn't the "Party" choice.
Really?.....

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
187. What vote count, specifically, are you talking about?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

The only votes that count would be in congress, not primary voters in states like South Carolina or Louisiana. So your "vote count" reality doesn't exist.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
190. The Democrats in Congress wouldn't waste their political capital to push for
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

Medicare for all when the Republican-controlled House has voted 62 times to repeal the ACA, a program that doesn't approach Bernie's in the area of government intervention. C'mon, are you really going to disagree with me on that point ?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
191. Every Democrat worthy of the name will work toward Medicare For All every chance they get.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016
It should be the platform of the Democratic Party. My party shouldn't shrink back in fear at the Republican Party as has been their habit for some time now. We are sick to death of the weak shitty representation we have had from this group. The Democratic Party has become notorious for their weakness.
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
112. No, she's the one making
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

half million dollar speeches on Wall Street to the tiny fraction of the population who own a disproportionate share of the national wealth and income, then she convinces people like you that it's too expensive to do anything about it except wage war, and shovel money to banks. Maybe, she right. Maybe the fact that she's right and thinks like you is the problem. I want a president willing to fight, not one willing to make excuses for doing nothing because of the republican congress.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
125. A Republican-controlled House during the next presidency will beat Bernie with the
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

full support of the Republican base. That's just the reality of the situation. It is with that reality in mind that I don't wish to see a 7-2 or 6-3 Right leaning Supreme Court for a generation and all that entails. That is my determined position with regards to this election. I will staunchly support Hillary. Good day.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
136. Yes, because why would a Democrat President want the support of Democrats in Congress or
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:03 PM
Mar 2016

the Democrat base ? She could simply nominate a Right wing justice and throw caution to the wind. You would have been better off just saying that you support Bernie.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
141. Please, she will strike the easiest
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

deal she can with the republicans. That will mean a right of center nominee. She will not nominate nor fight for a liberal justice. She wouldn't do that if she had a democratic senate to work with.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
157. It doesn't require clairvoyance
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016

to know what Hillary Clinton is. Her record stretches back all the way to Goldwater and Sam Walton. I am at a loss to figure out how support for Sanders alters any of the inconvenient facts of Hillary Clinton's political history.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
180. No! You are misrepresenting what Bernie has said.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie said, "No, president, not even the greatest president can achieve these goals without massive support by the people."

So, no, Bernie isn't promising things. He makes it clear that he cannot get these things done without a political revolution involving millions of us.

Bernie is not dishonest. You are thinking of Hillary.

All in it together

(275 posts)
189. Lincoln started the free land grant state universities.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:40 PM
Mar 2016

He wanted more people to be educated, not to gain tuition from them. It would be nice if we had a better educated public.

Lincoln was a honest Republican, those were the days. We just need to vote better people into congress. I think you have the wrong avatar.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. You expect us to see a problem here automatically
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

What is bad about businesses doing well? If they think they will do well under Hillary? That means more jobs if business does well. You are not going to sell Bernie on the concept that all corporations and businesses suck and that they are always cheating and dishonest. Most voters want Wall Street doing well and business doing well and to have a good job. That is more likely when things are going well.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
90. +1
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

Precisely.

What's wrong with businesses doing well??

These Bernie fans don't sound like democratic socialists, they sound like commies.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
198. If big businesses do well, that SHOULD mean more and better jobs.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

And that is what it DID mean, back in the Glass-Steagall days, when big business was better regulated. Also when we had true captains of industry, who didn't sit around whining like toddlers every time they didn't get their every little whim granted for tons of free stuff. We had many fine business leaders instead, who built businesses to achieve profits for themselves and their investors plus benefits for their customers and their fellow American citizens. They were given respect along with their profits, because they had earned both.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
93. here's a funny thing
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

I just found out the Democrats have a candidate for my legislative district (a race we lost in the last election). Got some of his literature at the caucus.

It has three main points, besides pictures of him and his kids.

"responsible government, education is our foundation"

"leadership, an advocate for Kansas veterans"

"Pro jobs. Pro business. Making Kansas strong"


Hillary is not the only Democrat who sounds like a Republican. Maybe it's based on the fact that a majority of voters are not anti-business.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
144. GOP is strong in
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

this one. It would be fine if send you don't think all corporations are out control but to claim Sanders is anti-business is insane GOP brainwashing babble. Low information voters spew that crap.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
145. Now the MSM is trying to rewite history
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

The Reagan's believed that homo's should die and it was G-D's will so nothing should be done to help people who were HIV positive.

I won't let them rewrite history in my brain!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
148. I never said anything about Bern or Bern victims.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

Guess what though? We sorta have to win a whole bunch of low information voters.

Unless our whole point is just to Bern down the Democratic Party rather than really achieve something positive.

Response to tomm2thumbs (Original post)

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
121. The capitalists are making an investment with an expectation of a healthy return.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016
“The abuse of buying and selling votes crept in and money began to play an important part in determining elections. Later on, this process of corruption spread in the law courts and to the army, and finally, when even the sword became enslaved by the power of gold, the republic was subjected to the rule of emperors.” —Plutarch
 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
127. They may think that stealing from
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

ordinary Americans is good for them....


They are wrong!


Demand is what creates jobs and when you take the money away from ordinary Americans (like me), demand drops.


Why don't they understand that putting money into our pockets, creates jobs, and helps their bottom line.


I guess they are too greedy to see it.

All in it together

(275 posts)
196. They think they don't need us
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

Because they can sell their stuff all over the world.
Those big businesses don't give a hoot about America or Americans.

LS_Editor

(893 posts)
158. Wall Street Projects Hillary Clinton Will Be Next U.S. President
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

The corporate media has its projections. Wall Street has its projections. Satire.

Wall Street Projects Hillary Clinton Will Be Next U.S. President

NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK (The Nil Admirari) - Earlier today, Wall Street projected former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would defeat U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont for the Democratic presidential nomination, and eventually be the next President of the United States. Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein made the projection official with a wire transfer of hundreds of millions of dark money dollars from Wall Street financial institutions to Hillary Clinton's super PAC Correct the Record.

+

"Blankfein continued, "But just to make sure, the other banksters and I may have donated hundreds of millions of dollars to the super PAC Hillary is definitely not coordinating with on a daily basis. The law is pretty clear that I don't have to tell you anything about the money."


More @ link...

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
205. Yes- I have resident quotes along the line of
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, we would be fine with the R candidate or Hillary Clinton.

That tells you a lot. Hillary is one of the 1%, with her net worth of $45 million. How does a politician amass so much wealth?

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