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Mark Sanford : Obama will throw a lot of spears at next debate (Original Post) octoberlib Oct 2012 OP
That is un-fucking-believable F. Kafka Oct 2012 #1
"SPEARS"? are you fucking kidding me? unblock Oct 2012 #2
I thought the same thing -- creepy indeed. "Dog whistle," perhaps? anneboleyn Oct 2012 #46
no "dog whistle" about it. that's pretty damn blatant. unblock Oct 2012 #47
I still cannot believe that was said. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #3
"Spear chucker" now? It was funny in "M*A*S*H", but it isn't funny now. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #4
P.O.S! elleng Oct 2012 #5
It may or may not be a dog whistle TroyD Oct 2012 #6
Is it a common expression? alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #12
lots of choice of weaponry. slings and arrows, jabs, needles, pot shots, etc. unblock Oct 2012 #48
So you're defending him? Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #23
It Is NOT A Common Expression, Absent A Racial Component. (nt) Paladin Oct 2012 #24
Can't say I've ever seen it used in a debate context before. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #31
I've never heard it. Ever. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #33
Citation, please Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #37
I have never in my life heard this in a political context. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #42
Damage control FAIL. 2ndAmForComputers Oct 2012 #44
No, it is most certainly NOT a common expression... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #45
Hopefully it'll be like the Battle of Isandlwana aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #7
YES! FarPoint Oct 2012 #11
Um, they won that battle Confusious Oct 2012 #15
I loved that movie! Poiuyt Oct 2012 #19
Yea, they won the battle Confusious Oct 2012 #16
The film Zulu was not about Isandlwana aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #20
I looked up the movie Confusious Oct 2012 #25
Why? aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #35
No Confusious Oct 2012 #39
I see - there's nothing remarkable about native peoples winning a victory against colonial invaders aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #43
Racist POS. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #8
And to think I once felt sorry for him on a human level...now he is a Faux contributor? Astazia Oct 2012 #9
I hope at least one reaches the Appalachian Trail. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #10
You can take the boy out of South Carolina, but you can't take South Carolina out of the boy. no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #13
A southern right wing governor plays the race card. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #14
I hope so, and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #17
They don't even speak in coded language anymore Generic Brad Oct 2012 #18
WHY is this family values adulterer being given air time or ANY attention whatsoever? niyad Oct 2012 #21
My thoughts exactly. still_one Oct 2012 #27
Thank you! octoberlib Oct 2012 #32
Jesus, you racist turd, just call him the n-word and get it over with ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #22
what is disturbing there used to be a time when the media would call racism out. Now they try to still_one Oct 2012 #28
Let's listen to family value "mark stanford". why doesn't he go to Argentina where he belongs /nt still_one Oct 2012 #26
Yeah, dude, go hike your girlfriend's appalachian trail again. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29
Sanford is a racist, adulturous gopiscrap Oct 2012 #30
Are you fucking kidding me? SoapBox Oct 2012 #34
Sanford...name rings a bell. Didn't he kill a hooker who was out hiking? Azathoth Oct 2012 #36
Mark, go hike the Appalachain Trail and die. muntrv Oct 2012 #38
Why, what an interesting choice of words.... TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #40
Of course Fox news had to snatch him right up. LisaL Oct 2012 #41
Sociopaths are Shameless. GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #49

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. It may or may not be a dog whistle
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:02 PM
Oct 2012

It's hard to say. It's a common expression when people discuss politics and debates.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. Is it a common expression?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:34 PM
Oct 2012

"Bush will throw a lot of spears in his speech to the GOP Senate retreat this week."

"Clinton threw a lot of spears in his meeting with Gingrich."

"Ford has been known to throw his share of spears when negotiating with House Democrats."



Those are all examples I just made up. Needless to say, they look ludicrous. Can you find real examples of people using this expression to describe debates and politics? How about one? Shouldn't be that hard, given how "common" it is.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
48. lots of choice of weaponry. slings and arrows, jabs, needles, pot shots, etc.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:43 AM
Oct 2012

plenty to choose from that doesn't go near anything racial.

nothing accidental about this.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
31. Can't say I've ever seen it used in a debate context before.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:06 PM
Oct 2012

I did see a video where vandals were throwing spears at an Obama sign last presidential election though.

Cirque du So-What

(25,940 posts)
37. Citation, please
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:02 PM
Oct 2012

If it's sofa king common, you shouldn't have a bit of trouble Googling up a passel of 'spear' references. I've lived a long time, and I have *never* heard the word 'spear' used in connection with politics and/or debates.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
42. I have never in my life heard this in a political context.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:17 PM
Oct 2012

So, no...it's not "hard to say". He's doing what the Romney campaign or the RNC is asking him to do.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
45. No, it is most certainly NOT a common expression...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:50 AM
Oct 2012

...I've been following politics for 50 years now and have never, NOT ONCE, heard ANYONE refer to "throwing spears" when talking about politics or debates.

There are many colorful expressions that have been used when people discuss politics and debates, that much is true. But this expression is a new one. Gee I wonder why he came up with it.

My ears are ringing, but I can't quite figure out why... wait... what is that very, very high-pitched sound I can barely hear? ... yup. Dog whistle.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
7. Hopefully it'll be like the Battle of Isandlwana
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:12 PM
Oct 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

Where in southern Africa, Zulu warriors equipped mainly with spears and cowhide shields against rifles and artillery pieces completely overran and annihilated about 1,800 British and colonial troops, reminiscent of the Battle of the Little Big Horn in the U.S. three years before.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
15. Um, they won that battle
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

But lost the war.....

(and it made a good film "ZULU!," with Micheal Caine)

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
20. The film Zulu was not about Isandlwana
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

The movie was about the second British invasion and the battle of Rorke's Drift. I didn't mention the entire war, only the defeat of the British ending their first invasion of the Zulu Kingdom. Isandlwana was a crushing defeat for the British by native peoples, mainly spears against state-of-the-art guns.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
25. I looked up the movie
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:54 PM
Oct 2012

Even though it wasn't about that, it was a similar condition, and a good movie.

But lost the war.....

(and it made a good film "ZULU!," with Micheal Caine)


but lost the war... and it made a good film, etc etc etc.(you should have tied those two together.)

If you're going to quote a battle, you might as well be ready for the "and they won/lost that war" that is going to come right after.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
39. No
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:09 PM
Oct 2012

because that's what people do. "person 1: Well, they won X battle. person 2: Yea, but they lost Y war, bad example"

I guess you would have never heard it if you had been hiding under a rock.

You have some sort of "noble savage" complex? As far as your "native peoples" go, they're human. They're just as bad as the rest of us, given the chance. Shaka Zulu, while he created a nation, was also a brutal bastard. American Indians liked to scalp each other, and spent a lot of time fighting BEFORE the Europeans showed up.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
43. I see - there's nothing remarkable about native peoples winning a victory against colonial invaders
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:42 AM
Oct 2012

against all odds and with inferior technology whether it's Zulus or Sioux warriors. I have some kind of mental "complex" because I find that inspiring? And I've been hiding under a rock because I'm not allowed to mention such a remarkable victory and show of courage unless I discuss the entire war?

Sorry man, I just don't get where you're coming from.

Astazia

(262 posts)
9. And to think I once felt sorry for him on a human level...now he is a Faux contributor?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oct 2012

No more senior! He should have stayed in Argentina or get lost on the Appalachian Trail.

These SOB's do not care about this country...just their bank accounts.

Disgusting as hell but the people who that appeals to wouldn't vote for President Obama anyway. Sad though...sigh

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
13. You can take the boy out of South Carolina, but you can't take South Carolina out of the boy.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:42 PM
Oct 2012

What a rube.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
17. I hope so,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:01 PM
Oct 2012

Robocorp ran his mouth enough, which was a brilliant plan by Obama by the way, just let him run his mouth and come back in the final two debates and beat the hell out of him with his own words. He played it very coy too in interviews afterward, but I got what he was doing.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
18. They don't even speak in coded language anymore
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

Now they just come right out and say it - and there are absolutely no repercussions from their party or the media.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
21. WHY is this family values adulterer being given air time or ANY attention whatsoever?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

did he finally marry his "soul mate"?

by the way, welcome to DU

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
22. Jesus, you racist turd, just call him the n-word and get it over with
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

You know between this dumb fuck and the POS is Wisconsin that's what they want to do.

still_one

(92,212 posts)
28. what is disturbing there used to be a time when the media would call racism out. Now they try to
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

make it mainstream

Throughly disgusting


SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
34. Are you fucking kidding me?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:33 PM
Oct 2012

"The DISGRACED former Republican governor of South Carolina..."

Need we remind the world?

Liar.

Cheater.

LIAR!

Asshole.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
36. Sanford...name rings a bell. Didn't he kill a hooker who was out hiking?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:57 PM
Oct 2012

I know something like that happened...

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
49. Sociopaths are Shameless.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:41 PM
Oct 2012
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