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Who crumbled your cookie?

clearly not what this country should be about.
The Gov sold understand his dereliction of duty was irresponsible, he sold resign. But mor importantly what is happening here, is happening across this country.....wealth inequality. Communities struggling to create basic services, crumbling infrastructure. No more tax breaks for millionaires.


Well said!

Perhaps she's said it, before, but this is the first time I've heard her. I know Senator Sander's stand on this, too, and I thank them BOTH.

the water supply, what can be done.


Hillary says repair work needs to be done w/ local hires, and triple checked to reassure quality is back. Will work w/ trusted people, so she can trust it.

economic development program.

water bills are 3X that of Burlington. (WOW!!!)

2nd) CDC needs to come in and examine all the children of Flint.
3rd) Trillion dollar infrastructure bill to repair communities.

against GOP malfeasance.

They seem to be reminding us that ultimately we are on the same side.

makes more and more New Deal programs (i.e. "discriminatory local sourcing&quot FTA-illegal protectionism.

>Hillary makes a big point that the pipe repair will be worked on by locals and be part of a local economic development program.

Do you really want to know?

"progressive liberalisation" is the one way street to privatization, as well as - at least many other nations have been convinced of this - a path to a glittering ElDorado.

Countries have to open up.

Is it spending by a government entity? Federal, state or local?

I dont know the specifics but you likely could find out at the WTO site.

If it employs only US workers, without going through competitive bidding first, I think that may not be allowed any more..

After some date, they likely would be required to use the WTO revised GPA (government procurement agreement) e-tendering portal to request bids.. So in theory at least, companies from any other WTO member likely could bid on the work.

If they don't, depending on various factors as far as minimum amounts, time its done, etc, even if it was considered to be okay when they drew it up, last week things may have changed, because of the solar panel victory against India, the US got the bad WTO to rue that hiring just your own countries workers is forbidden..

So it MAY violate that recent WTO ruling. Since its government spending. Is it? (I dont have CNN)

Same thing with health care. Globalization is on the way. Thats why we cant have good things, what would ideology do.

There you have the problem i a nutshell.. regardless who wins, or why, if any of the pending deals- especially the one in Geneva, gets a yes hereWTO lock-in may make things like stimulating the economy locally, and affordable healthcare even more difficult - basically impossible soon, because those rights have been promised away in exchange for 20 years of privatization in other countries.

India, just gave up the right to education. So obviously, they are casting heir lot with Hillary.

Its a whole new world - the coming services liberalisation.

Don't tell anyone, but I'm watching the BAFTA Downton Abbey celebration and then Downton Abbey.

And it'll be discussed here.

I hope the thread goes well. I'll be reading for highlights.

:heart:

but is gripping his podium hard. I guess someone told him to stop that.

all systems for lead, and notification of residents.

and paint.

She is losing her voice.

Apparently just disintegrating it. Unless she has some idea of where she intends to put it. Because it is pretty much a given that if it is removed from one place, then it needs to be put in another place.

-Hillary Clinton, 2016

So far, I haven't see so much agreement as I have tonight except for a mini-board meeting for a defendant I was representing. MANY years ago.
They both make great sense. The diff between us and the GOP - priceless.

I hope that they BOTH do some good for Flint - even when the 'lights go out"

I will happily vote for either one. Neither is perfect, but either one will get my vote.

I lean toward Sanders, but only slightly.

Sanders holds views most closely aligned with mine.

Clinton is the singularly most "qualified on Day One" presidential candidate, of either party or either gender, to stand for the office.

I abhor the silly primary posturing of the rabid fans of BOTH candidates. Look around. Look at the other side. LOOK.

Go Hillary! Go Bernie!

Hillary'- "Carrots and Sticks" incentives to fix infrastructure, help small businesses and also go after companies who are leaving (cites Nabisco) will clawback benefits. Johnson controls in Wisconsin, got part of the bailout, and wants to leave- must pay an exit fee.

Shit, she is losing her voice badly. Cracking.

we can;t compete w salaries from Mexico. Opposition to TPP, can't compete with Vietnam.

We have lost 60K factories since 20001. They will have to invest here, not in Mexico.

He was against it, and she helped save the industry.


Bernie pivots away from Detroit and to Wall Street. Oh boy.

A Nabisco plant in the city also is leaving, so that's an important issue here. Illinois primary is March 15.

CRITICAL to discuss.

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now Auto Bailout.

our middle class.
Obama asked for support for auto industry - she voted to save it, and bernie....

just went back to Wall street. WTF?!?! SuperPac?!?!?

telling her to stop and let him finish.

As of the NAFTA segment it's looking bloody for Clinton.

The problem of course is, what the hell are the ratings for this, especially with all media and nomenklatura on the bullhorn 24/7 saying it's all over, shut up.

2m2 minutes ago
aasif mandvi ?@aasif
this debate is unwatchable. No one has called anyone a choke artist or referenced their genitalia.

Well...it's early yet!

Was the auto industry bailout specified as a part of the Wall Street bailout? I remember that the bailout was approved and then Obama chose to redirect some of the money to Detroit. Was there specific legislation on it?

kep pivoting to WALL STREET. Awkward.

The money was authorized and the Treasury allowed to dispense.

In any case, there wouldn't have been a separate vote on the auto industry bailout.

http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/83206/leahy-sanders-reluctantly-support-auto-industry-rescue

(Host) Vermont's two U.S. Senators, Patrick Leahy and Bernie Sanders, say they're reluctantly supporting a $15 billion rescue package for the nation's auto industry.

Both senators say that allowing Ford, General Motors or Chrylser to fall into bankruptcy could affect a lot of auto related jobs in Vermont.

Senator Bernie Sanders voted against the $700 billion bail out of the financial services industry but he says this package is different:

(Sanders) "The problem is if you don't act in the midst of a growing recession what does it mean to create a situation where millions of more people become unemployed and that could spread and I have serious concerns about that I think it would be a terrible idea to add millions more to the unemployment rolls."

Anyway, it was trap to even discuss this red herring. He did amazing stuff at that stage in the debate.

Oof, the ratings, the ratings. I hope they're high among Michigan primary voters!

And thats why your Black numbers are failing and why I'm undecided between you and Hillary because while economics are important and have roots in systemic racism, there are more things I'm concerned about.

here are my speeches..
I don't give wall street speeches.. Here...

Hillary CACKLE, CACKLE

i almost feel bad for her tonight...

YEA!!!!!!!!!

This dude know EXACTLY "WHAT IS WHAT."

David Corn ?@DavidCornDC
I don't think HRC can out-anti-corporate Bernie Sanders. #DemDebate

i did say almost

I am very happy that the trade policies are being debated.

they are bad. Hmm, not to bad to be working in VT though?

is more corporate welfare. (Why he agrees with Cruz)

with FACTS! Imagine THAT!!!

Democrats should be proud

I am so proud of my candidate. Never in my life time have I seen a champion such as this.

Thank you, Bernie. You restore my faith that good governance is possible.

questions. It's a bit freeform.

He has been strong. But that was a bit of Hmmmm, what?

a very, very complicated issue.. maybe too much to get into....

Of course many things are complicated.....

...to expand the ACA! Believe me, I always tell the truth!" *laugh*

That just happened...paraphrased of course.

:love:

...maybe except for the truth telling part. I may have exaggerated that a bit. heh

Sanders is on fire tonight! Best debate yet!

That's Michigan's biggest issue.

... to see real issues debated by adults.

US has had a rash of mass shutting, 42 this year alone.
This shooter had a clear background, and no recorded mental health issues.
Don;t want to hear about background checks or mental health issues.


Hillary talks of limiting access to arms, Brady bill- stopped 2 million purchases.

Because it would have made guns safer, and sellers more careful.

...because framing it as blanket immunity is wrong. It's not what happened and it's a cheap, inaccurate shot.

Please if you don;t appreciate the spirit, go find other people to be mean with. Not appreciated here.

Bring the fight. He is bringing it tonight and has her on the ropes this evening.

If you have never watched the two of them, he is smacking down every answer of hers

he is also trying to paint her as 100% against guns, and no one is buying it.

We have two outstanding candidates. They debated vigorously and fairly. They are talking specifically about how to help Americans. I believe they would both do an excellent job. Personally I have no idea why anyone wouldn't vote for the democratic candidate for president over the republican candidate for president.

Thanks for hosting this thread bettyellen. And to all the nice people who participated in the spirit of good will.