Ghetto was first used to describe the Jewish places in Europe where they Jewish people were forced to live. I think Bernie has an idea what Ghettos are.

Still as for the rest of your smears, well FeeltheBern!

His relatives' poor experiences in the ghettos, to put it mildly.

And none of them populated by many, if any, whites. Through economic oppression and lack of other opportunities, are the only reasons that I can think of for the presence of those ghettos. Maybe some white guy knows better? I look for the reply.

Many whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians. And it looks like almost all of the non blacks in the worst neighborhoods are Hispanic.

white, white, white!

My mother got cancer because medical bills where killing us and she was going to Roswell Park Cancer Institute for experimental chemo and radiation therapy so we had to rent a place in Buffalo in the cheapest part of town a black ghetto area. I was a kid at this time and only remember patches of this. But one thing I do remember is when me first moved in I was out front eating a push pop top ice cream you know those things in a tube with plastic disk you pushed to get ice cream up. So a few of kids around area where around so my mother started handing out the rest of box of pops and I can still remember to this day how it seemed these kids have never had something like this. It is really hard for me to use words to describe it but yea a simple ice cream was a treat to these kids. The image I have might be distorted do to time but it reminds me of my time in Philippines a few months after Mount Pinatubo erupted and seeing kids there going down to river and getting water that if it was a cup of coffee I would of added milk to it.

measures that she found both good and bad parts?

Do you realise how many democrats and - tellingly - independents feel the same about Clinton? How will she manage to be elected without them, hen she has zero cross-over appeal?

She is ahead on delegates. Odd that.

Add to that the DNC bias, the intentional black-out of Sanders' message in the regular media, and you would have the explanation of the oddity you have noticed.

Yet in spite of every attempt to let her "sew it up", Clinton is still struggling against Sanders. Odd, that...

Funny; this is exactly how I feel about Hillary. Can't stand her.

Pure. Comedy. Gold.

while your man gets buried in the industrial midwest.

and he would do it in the future. he would wipe out any industry.

can't think of any industry he is not opposed to. Can you?

There's the gun industry, he's been relatively friendly on that front.

He voted FOR the automotive industry bailouts.

melted butter on top....

because that is my favorite toast, and Bernie is my favorite candidate running for President.

Fresh Choice fresh backed Sour Dough bread with the freaking butter station where they had tons of different flavors. Boy I miss that place once I left the Navy and San Fran area.

I toast to your toasting of Bernie.

Heck - I live in Nebraska, and I'd say "no"

Diversity is something that is subjective, not objective.

And since President Obama's mother was born in Kansas, I would think that would be good enough to call her an American, a diverse American, in fact.

My grandparents lived in Nebraska for a few years in the late 20s.
My father said that when he was a kid, he could slide out of the 2nd story window his bedroom was on, on a sled because the snow was piled so high on that side of the house.
He said his mother had to dig a tunnel through the snow from the front door clear to the road, just so they could get out of the house to send the kids to school!!

Here is an objective statistic: all 8 states won by Sanders so far have an average 3.5% black population, per stats from the Kaiser Family Foundation. States won by Clinton average 18.9%.

Latinos, Asians, Indians, etc. etc.

Well said!

He talks like someone who got taken by a shady stock broker, and it's obvious that it's the only part of his platform that he's spent any real time on.

Besides that he appears to see things in black & white. He would have let the auto companies fail with disastrous results just to deny a bank bailout. I didn't like the TARP deal either, but one has to use nuanced judgement instead of a fixed formula to governance.

of crony capitalism and money in politics that is root of all issues in America. Do you not think America could have a honest to god talk about gun control till we get rid of NRA buying votes? Do you think Flint water crap would of happened if it was not for crony capitalism happening at state level government? Do you think we would be having to push Climate change with so much push back if it was not for money in politics?

It is a symbol and that you do know this is the problem Sanders and us "BernieBros" are trying to get across to America. But for months now we are called smug and think we know all. Ask people in Flint how they like crony capitalism and the "emergency managers" that have posined the water.

I'm a union member and a good part of my dues go to fund campaigns that stop Republicans from carrying out their agenda. Republicans don't go after union jobs because they hate hourly workers, it's because union lobbies are the single biggest donors to the Democratic Party. Some would argue that donations to MADD saves lives on the highways and lobbying by the AARP strengthens Social Security.

If one demands an end to lobbying by the NRA we have to end donations from the good ones as well. Having said that, the dark money born of Citizens United is a disaster to democracy but both Democratic candidates see eye to eye on that.

If you remove money and Republicans would then have to go by will of people instead of big money. The reason Unions have to lobby so hard is because other side is winning the bidding. If we take out the bidding it all comes down to votes. If you no longer have money to brainwash people with marketing then you have to influence them on real world issues.

Talked about healthcare as a right for ALL Americans.

Talked about taking better care of children and the elderly.

All that costs money.

Unfortunately, the US taxpayer through the elected and un-elected officials in Washington, has had a rough go of it during these, the wealthiest times in human history.

Instead of spending taxpayers' money on making life better, they have had to finance wars without end, bank bailouts, and interest on the national debt.

These all are pies that Wall Street has their fat fingers in. What a coincidence.

and please do not put a 'disclaimer' in the last paragraph that states you would vote for him ... so we might vote for her.

You do not need us, post after post on DU, it has been made abundantly clear, we are not needed.

We understand.

so, of course they neither need nor want us.

We're just bad, terrible people for not cheering in the streets as the queen walks by on her way to the coronation.

His poll numbers and delegate count and union endorsements and political endorsements (and even celebrity endorsements) all help to confirm and support your astute observations.

Bluer state. Northern state. Win in Minnesota. Open primary. The polls in Michigan don't call cell phones. People realize that the elitists need to be taxed and money needs to be spent on infrastructure.

He will Mop the floor with her after March 15.

Yes there are poor whites in America with limited housing choices. No one said otherwise.

What you are missing is that the term ghetto is historically applied to area where certain ethnic groups are forced to live, sometimes because they are excluded elsewhere and sometimes by law as in Nazi Germany or by banks' redlining.

That's for sure. And I agree - I find him one of the most dishonest candidates I've ever seen run for the Dem nomination.

As the OP stated. I could make a list dozens of items long, but the Bernie majority juries would hide it. That's the problem with censorship. It keeps people in a bubble.

I see that a PM is all that you actually can do today.

Not dishonest like Trump lying with total disregard, but pretty dishonest.

I'd alert that nasty comment, but the current DU crowd actually encourages that kind of behavior.

Admirable.

Have the last word.

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But go ahead and keep your illusions.

Wall Street this
Show me the transcripts of the speeches
Free health care!


My god. Regardless the topic, he wanted to talk about hating the rich and giving shit away for free.

Blah!

It's an important issue, but dealing with it won't solve a myriad of other problems.

Bernie needs to expand his platform to other issues, especially on foreign policy.

Most anything in the primaries. What's with the finger thing?

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Finger at some point during every question. And yelled thro the whole thing. He's annoying as hell. Four years of that would drive the people of this country over the edge.

Personally IMO I see four years of Hillary's policies driving the people of this country over the edge.

Similarly, we see all over DU the promotion of party over principle.

What's most important somehow becomes meaningless when one supports a certain candidate over a certain other.

Bernie doesn't have much substance. He says the same thing over and over.
You may not like Hillary but she runs circles aroud Bernie in the substance department.

Especially since I'm one of those who can't stand Hillary's voice

blowhard............ and you complained about the discussions here...........

Even though I'm a HRC supporter. Lately I'll have to say the idea of having to listen to his angry voice for four or more years is a depressing thought. He has become a "one note Johnny" and I think a lot of people have tuned him out. His clever scheme of promising things he can't deliver to a certain naive segment of the electorate is dishonest. If you take the time to delve into his past it becomes apparent he is a shrewd politician willing to say whatever it takes to win. Having said all that I would definitely vote against the Republican if Bernie won the nomination.

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He is clueless on the first part.

However

The blowhard thing? That's been said about pretty much every politician during a debate ever. It's hard to be loud enough to be considered strong but not too loud where you're considered a bully. Every politician walks that fine line and every one can be called either too weak or a bully if someone wants to call them that.

The Ideologue part - That's just nonsense. He's said how he'll pay for things, and you are assuming it will take down the entire economy but that is just your assumption, and to say "he's willing to take down the entire economy" is hyperbole. No, actually, it's a complete fabrication.

The last part is also just plain ridiculous. Every single senator is going to have to look at individual bills on a case-by-case basis and determine what is the best choice in that specific instance. I certainly hope they put that much thought into it.

the entire world economy was threatening to collapse. Bernie voted to let it collapse -- in the name of ideological purity.

I remember what happened and it was a more complicated issue than you are suggesting. I'm from Michigan. My town lost an auto plant.

than Bernie suggest. He's the guy who sees a Wall Street Billionaire behind every problem.

He's right about that. The economy is structured to make them richer at everyone else's expense. That's exactly why I'm voting for him.

Edit: If your point is that Hillary will be kinder and more protective of Wall Street billionaires, you aren't winning my vote. LOL!

...but you'd still vote for him. That is as laughable as what we saw at the GOP Debate the other day where they all went scorched earth against each other and then at the very end said they would vote for each other in the general election.

On the off chance he overtakes Hillary, I will vote for him, knowing he will be eviscerated in the general and that his loss would set back the progressive cause for decades.

But I doubt it will come to that.

I agree with that. So the question is why are you going scorched earth against him? It's a valid question. He's not going to win, so it's pointless to tear the guy apart.

he's had his fun, raised consciousness. He's just a distraction. Time for him to show some grace and some concern for the party rather than for his own ego.

He has millions of small donors who keep giving him money and expect him to continue campaigning. He's not a distraction. Focus your energy on Trump and the GOP. Hillary can do the same. She can completely ignore Sanders at this point.

just saying. No sense in investing good money after bad.

Just saying.

I'm a young (previously undecided) AA voter who will be casting my vote today for Hillary. I have watched each debate and last night sealed the deal for me.

Many of his supporters don't require much of their candidate. He's not the brightest crayon in the box.

That toast tastes delicious to his supporters.

Never underestimate the power of an honest man.

and "When is it okay to vote for a bill in order to get the good things passed, despite the fact that you may have to swallow hard and accept a few bad things too? "

As you would expect, it would obviously be on a case by case basis. Nobody is going to have a fixed philosophy of "I'll vote for it as long as it has one thing I like in it." Or two, or any arbitrary number.

You'd look at each bill, look at the total good you expect to come out of it, weigh it against the total bad that you see, and then further weigh all that against the odds of whether the bill is likely to pass with or without your vote, AND the likelihood that you'll be able to get a better bill if you help defeat it.

The concept is simple... there's obviously going to be no pattern because each situation is different due to all of those variables. It's not, as you put it, dishonesty.

Pretty Much A Hypocrite To He's Been An Independent For Over 30 Years Then All Of A Sudden Launches His Campaign Pretending To Be A Democrat To Run In The Democratic Primary?

What Kinda Shit Is That? Why Not Run As An Independent Candidate For President?

Talk About The Ultimate Flip Flop

He's trying to take hold of the democratic party and use its infrastructure. He has 0 real allegiance to the party. But it's a convenient take-over target.