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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:38 AM Mar 2016

How Hillary Clinton’s Vote Against Clean Water Regulations Could Cost Her Michigan

In 2005, while she was running for re-election as New York’s U.S. Senator, Clinton voted against a measure to ban the manufacturing of a known carcinogen that had affected drinking water supplies for millions of Americans. A chemical called methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE), which is an additive that makes fuel burn cleaner, had found its way into 31 states’ drinking water wells by 2000. Three years later, the Environmental Working Group estimated that some 15 million Americans were drinking water contaminated with MTBE. Amid this news, seventeen states filed a class-action lawsuit against the makers of MTBE.

As International Business Times reported, one of the manufacturers of MTBE was ExxonMobil, a major supporter of the Clinton Foundation. In 2005, Senator Pete Domenici (R-New Mexico) introduced an amendment to a sweeping energy policy bill that would have banned the use of MTBE. While the amendment passed overwhelmingly with 70 votes in favor and 26 opposing, Hillary Clinton joined 14 Republicans and 11 Democrats in voting against the measure. According to OpenSecrets.org, Clinton raised over $74,000 from the oil and gas industry for her 2006 re-election effort. To date, ExxonMobil has given roughly $1 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Shortly after the amendment’s passage, the Environmental Working Group reported that an EPA draft risk assessment proved a link between MTBE and increased cancer rates:

More: http://usuncut.com/news/hillary-clinton-groundwater-pollution/

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How Hillary Clinton’s Vote Against Clean Water Regulations Could Cost Her Michigan (Original Post) Lorien Mar 2016 OP
Did Sanders bring this up at the debate? Vattel Mar 2016 #1
Very disturbing Fairgo Mar 2016 #2
Her 1% Overlords Demanded Obedience cantbeserious Mar 2016 #4
Trick question? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #5
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #3
It's not going to affect the election unless people know about it. agracie Mar 2016 #6
Beat me to it nxylas Mar 2016 #8
Damn, hardly a day goes by in which you... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #7
Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Boxer and all other liberals voted against it too Kaleva Mar 2016 #9
Ask 100% of Michigan voters what they know about this and you'll get Vinca Mar 2016 #10
Yup. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #11
As has previously been explained, Sanders also voted against this bill. onenote Mar 2016 #12
Kicked and recommended for the attention this deserves. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #13
kicked - should be brought up in Town Hall tonight tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #14
No could..... BrainDrain Mar 2016 #15
You do realize that this is the third time since the weekend that this SAME article was posted on DU George II Mar 2016 #16

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
2. Very disturbing
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:00 AM
Mar 2016

What was her reasoning? It does not jibe with her current stance in Flint, which does not Jibe with her advocacy in Fracking. I am honestly lost.

Kaleva

(36,327 posts)
9. Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Boxer and all other liberals voted against it too
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:18 AM
Mar 2016

If you look at the roll call list, most Repubs voted for it while liberals voted against it.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00213

Interesting that people here are bashing Hillary for joining liberals in opposing a bill that Repukes supported.

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
10. Ask 100% of Michigan voters what they know about this and you'll get
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:46 AM
Mar 2016

99.9% deer-in-headlights responses. This is the problem with our country. The majority of people who even bother to vote, do so only based on personality, demeanor, celebrity, etc.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
11. Yup.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:46 AM
Mar 2016

It found it's way into the drinking water here in Boise, Idaho too when one of their tanks at a gas tank farm sprang a leak.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
12. As has previously been explained, Sanders also voted against this bill.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:09 AM
Mar 2016
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll445.xml

The bill originated in the House. Sanders voted against it but it passed.
It moved to the Senate, where a substitute version that was significantly different passed, with Democratic (and Clinton's) support. One of the differences between the House and Senate versions is that the Senate version did not have the groundwater provision that was in the House bill.
At this point, the "same" bill had passed both chambers but because the content of the bills differed, the bill was referred to a "conference committee" made up of House and Senate members. Their job was to negotiate a common version of the bill -- known as the "conference report."

That conference report restored the House's groundwater provision (as well as other provisions that the Senate had previously rejected).
When it returned to the House, it passed with Sanders voting no.
And in the Senate, many of the Democrats who had supported the Senate version (including Clinton) expressed their opposition to the changes made in conference by voting no.

In short, when presented with the exact same text, Sanders and Clinton voted the exact same way: No.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. You do realize that this is the third time since the weekend that this SAME article was posted on DU
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

...don't you?

And the problems in Flint weren't caused by MTBE in the water or some vote 10 years ago.

Once again (I should probably set up a template with this explanation), the water in Flint was clean when it came out of the river or the ground. What poisoned it was a reaction with the lead pipes in the system. The state decided to save a few thousand dollars and didn't treat the water, as it is treated in water systems all over the country, with a harmless chemical that prevents the water from corroding the lead pipes.

THAT is the source of the problem, not some obscure MTBE vote from more than 10 years ago. And remember, that legislation PASSED! It's funny, when Sanders voted for or against questionable legislation on the wrong side of the people, his excuse is always "well it was going to pass anyway". Yet that single 10 year old vote has now popped up THREE times in the last couple of days. Why aren't any of Sanders' fans saying "well, it would have passed anyway"?????

Finally, this type of thing isn't going to change the result in Michigan tomorrow. But stuff like this does chase more people AWAY from Sanders than from Clinton. Bottom line, misrepresentations like this cost more votes than attract them.

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